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(UK) Woman allegedly microwaved a kitten as revenge

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    #62
    Dotrel
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    kazul wrote: »
    People don't care more about animals than they do about their fellow human beings, that argument is illogical and flawed. If you care more about animals than people, you have some serious problems.

    Well I read here several people here who seem more concerned about the life of the microwaved cat than of the chav that killed it, so that puts a little spanner in works of your theory. Seems your own sweeping presumptions are little flawed themselves.

    If you're talking generally then yes people should be afforded more concern than animals, but in this case I'd personally have preferred the cats welfare.


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    #63
    The_Thing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭The_Thing


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    People who put cats in microwaves are not people either. They are sub human.

    That's an insult to sub-humans.


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    #64
    dfx-
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    Caring about animals and caring about people are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to abhorr cruelty to either.

    It's around page 2 that one of them militant vegans pops up...

    A microwave would be a fairly slow, indescribable death I'd guess. The body would burn in specific areas and miss others as it turned..

    A baby may have already been tried...:eek:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40030010/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/conviction-overturned-microwave-baby-death/


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    #65
    kazul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭kazul


    Kasabian wrote: »

    Stop with the BS, just say it was a horrible act and leave it at that.
    No need for you to compare it to human tragedy, we all know how fcuked up the world is.

    As for shooting all the dogs that sh!t anywhere you'll be a busy man. Let me contribute to your cause and direct you to the owners. Dogs don't know that it's bad to sh!t in a playground.

    I was responding to the OTT reactions to this story. People suggesting that the alleged perpetrator being shot in the face/deserving to die. Wildly out of proportion reaction because of a cat.
    It's always the same when animal cruelty stories come up in the media and it genuinely amazes me that people seem more horrified by cruelty to animals than to people.
    There wad a story in the papers a while back about a few starving piebald ponies in a field; shoot them bury them and get on with life.
    There are people on the breadline in this country but we still have dogs and cats homes, donkey sanctuaries and the like.


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    #66
    kazul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭kazul


    Dotrel wrote: »
    kazul wrote: »
    People don't care more about animals than they do about their fellow human beings, that argument is illogical and flawed. If you care more about animals than people, you have some serious problems.

    Well I read here several people here who seem more concerned about the life of the microwaved cat than of the chav that killed

    Thanks for agreeing with me.


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    #67
    Bullseye1
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    People are not less horrified to hear about people killing people. That is always the excuse used by people who find these actions acceptable or tolerable. Rather than condemning the actions you have stated you'd be happy if your wife did the same thing in her situation. Maybe it was tongue in cheek but your belittling the actions of a woman who is most likely a psychopath. God help her children if she has any.


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    #68
    Dotrel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    kazul wrote: »
    Thanks for agreeing with me.

    Just saying I agreed with you does not make it so. Or is that how you win the internet?

    You made a sweeping generalisation about people and I showed you to be in error.


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    #69
    Laisurg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    What a filthy scumbag of a woman :mad:


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    #70
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    dfx- wrote: »
    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    Caring about animals and caring about people are not mutually exclusive. It is possible to abhorr cruelty to either.

    It's around page 2 that one of them militant vegans pops up...

    A microwave would be a fairly slow, indescribable death I'd guess. The body would burn in specific areas and miss others as it turned..

    A baby may have already been tried...:eek:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40030010/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/conviction-overturned-microwave-baby-death/


    As it's the internet's shortfall if not being able to convey tone I can't quite tell if you are calling me a militant vegan. Are you?


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    #71
    kazul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭kazul


    Dotrel wrote: »
    kazul wrote: »
    Thanks for agreeing with me.

    Just saying I agreed with you does not make it so. Or is that how you win the internet?

    You made a sweeping generalisation about people and I showed you to be in error.

    Do you hand on heart care more for animals than people?
    If an animal and a person were both in mortal danger and you could only save one, which would you save?
    Maybe I should have qualified my statement by saying that sane, rational people care more about humans than animals.
    You have not shown me to be in error as we are having a discussion on morality - there will be no winner/there are no facts.


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    #72
    wendell borton
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvkpOCMo7hc

    :rolleyes:


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    #73
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    kazul wrote: »
    Dotrel wrote: »
    kazul wrote: »
    Thanks for agreeing with me.

    Just saying I agreed with you does not make it so. Or is that how you win the internet?

    You made a sweeping generalisation about people and I showed you to be in error.

    Do you hand on heart care more for animals than people?
    If an animal and a person were both in mortal danger and you could only save one, which would you save?
    Maybe I should have qualified my statement by saying that sane, rational people care more about humans than animals.
    You have not shown me to be in error as we are having a discussion on morality - there will be no winner/there are no facts.

    If the person were fir example the woman that fried the kitten and the animal were my dog. No question I would save my dog. I wouldn't make any apology for it either. If that makes me crazy then so be it.

    A highly unlikely hypothetical scenario though.


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    #74
    dfx-
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    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    As it's the internet's shortfall if not being able to convey tone I can't quite tell if you are calling me a militant vegan. Are you?

    No.


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    #75
    Sittingpretty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    dfx- wrote: »
    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    As it's the internet's shortfall if not being able to convey tone I can't quite tell if you are calling me a militant vegan. Are you?

    No.

    Ah ok, wasn't sure :)


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    #76
    Dudess
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    There are freaks who equate animals with children etc but to be repulsed and upset by this story is not the same. It doesn't mean there would be less of a sh1t given about a person being tortured to death.

    Better to be appalled at what was done to that kitten than to be "happy" too if in the shoes of the husband. Now THAT is ****ing psycho... :rolleyes:


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    #77
    kazul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭kazul


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_zpdyBz3VM


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    #78
    kazul
    Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭kazul


    Dudess wrote: »
    There are freaks who equate animals with children etc but to be repulsed and upset by this story is not the same. It doesn't mean there would be less of a sh1t given about a person being tortured to death.

    Better to be appalled at what was done to that kitten than to be "happy" too if in the shoes of the husband. Now THAT is ****ing psycho... :rolleyes:

    If you are referring to me and my posts, I would advise you to read it and the preceding posts very carefully before resorting to playground name calling.
    Is the zenith of your debating ability "****ing psycho" (whatever that means)?


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    #79
    woodoo
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    wyndham wrote: »
    That's the image that came into my mind. Ripe for an appearance on Jeremy Kyle.

    Then found there's a picture of her on The Daily Mail website, along with a picture of a kitten. Not the kitten in question, but one 'similar', in case there are people who don't know what a kitten looks like.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065202/Mother-killed-friends-kitten-microwave-revenge-boyfriend-reported-police.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    I'm glad her picture is in the paper. At least now people will recognise her and maybe punch her in the mouth if they see her in the street.


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    #80
    Dudess
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    kazul wrote: »
    Is the zenith of your debating ability "****ing psycho" (whatever that means)?
    Yeah.

    You just look like you're arguing for the sake of it - people find this upsetting and what? You think you can just assume that all of them care more about animals than humans?

    It's an upsetting story by itself - bigger picture or no bigger picture.


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    #81
    Captain Limerick
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    That woman is an evil bitch alright.
    To think she could do such a thing out of spite.
    I hope she's punished for her crime,
    and serves some hard time.
    And made think of that poor kitten's plight.


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    #82
    paddyandy
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    I could'nt read the article on breaking news.


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    #83
    Cill Dara Abu
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    superstoner90 wrote: »
    why you getting your coat? :confused: makes no sence :confused::confused:
    Neither does that word.


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    #84
    Wetai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭Wetai


    kylith wrote: »
    Not just a falling out; a falling out because the cat's owner had tried to help the perpetrator by reporting her abusive partner
    It's like the stories of couples belting each other when out at night, someone tries to break up the fight and the woman goes "STOP HITTING MY MAN" and attacks the person trying to help.


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    #85
    php-fox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭php-fox


    Oh hell. Send her back to the kitchen!
    Oh wait...


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    #86
    Cupcake_Crisis
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    kazul wrote: »
    Emmm, no Ted. My local vet put down our dog but he would't eutahanase my granny

    A vet will put an animal down to put it out of pain/ misery, not cos they were in a bit of a huff.

    She's obviously a very sick woman in need of help. I always say that someone who can happily inflict pain on an animal is only a stones throw from doing it a person. She's dangerous. She obviously stood there listening to that kitten scream and wail in agony and just let it happen.


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    #87
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    kazul wrote: »
    So you are happy for someone else to kill it on your behalf. As long as meat arrives to your plate in a sanitised manner you are happy enough for animals to die to satisfy your craving for their flesh?
    How do you know that the animals you eat were not subject to cruelty?
    Does your eating meat but professing to be against animal cruelty not strike you as hypocritical? After all, murder is the ultimate cruelty.

    What on earth are you on about! :cool: You are assuming that I am against animal cruelty. Where did you pull that out of? The fact that you happened to assume correctly is neither here nor there. Also why are you trying to equate me with some sort of blood thirsty monster? I don't crave meat, I like it. There is a big difference. I crave Ben & Jerrys ice cream, I like meat. Your worn out rhetoric doesn't do your argument justice. :rolleyes:

    By the way I work in an abattoir so I kill my own meat.*









    *This may not/is definitely not true.


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    #88
    syklops
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Tell that to Hitler's Mother.

    What did she do?


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    #89
    pokertalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭pokertalk


    she gave birth to hitler


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    #90
    hoorsmelt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭hoorsmelt


    Dudess wrote: »
    I don't understand posting this stuff though - what is there to say?!
    Jesus I feel sick... :(
    Being frank, I don't understand how someone can do something like that, I was hoping others might have some theory or explanation for why she did it.


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    #91
    syklops
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    pokertalk wrote: »
    she gave birth to hitler

    I thought you were going to say she cheated at cards or something.


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