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if nudity is illegal, shouldn't clothes be provided for everyone?

  • 22-11-2011 07:37PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭


    Happened across an article earlier which said that a ban on nude hiking has been upheld in Switzerland based on public decency laws, which got me thinking about how ridiculous the whole idea that nudity is something that can be legislated against is.

    We're all born stark bollock nekkid, we use clothes to keep us protected and warm, but how in the hell should it be illegal to choose to walk around without them, should you so wish?

    It's the 21st century now FFS, are we still so backward that the thought of seeing naked people going about their business offends us that much?

    My next, somewhat unwarranted, jump in logic is that if the various world governments rule that it is illegal not to wear any clothes, shouldn't they then be obliged to make free clothing available? After all, if someone can't afford to buy clothes, how can they be expected to wear them? And if it's ruled illegal to be naked in public, surely provisions must be made to have free clothes available for everyone, no?

    Now, back to work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Nudity isn't illegal, you're just required to wear clothes in civil society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    If driving without insurance is illegal shouldn't free insurance be provided for everyone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    biko wrote: »
    Nudity isn't illegal, you're just required to wear clothes in civil society.

    public nudity is against the law


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    Hence the abundance of shrubs and foliage in ireland. Think bailing twine.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    TheZohan wrote: »
    If driving without insurance is illegal shouldn't free insurance be provided for everyone?

    nope, because owning a car is a choice


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Helix wrote: »
    nope, because owning a car is a choice

    So is going out in public.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    TheZohan wrote: »
    So is going out in public.

    no it's not, it's necessary for healthy life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭JeffK88


    Kill a sheep and use the wool .for a jumper . Skin a cow use the skin for nice pair of leather chaps .. Kill a squirrel use as a hat and finally . kill two rabbits and a lovely pair of slippers :D Stick the hands up a cows arse for the warmt .. now no excuse to be naked :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    I cross Mary harney on the odd occasion, so I vote we keep things as they are


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    OP was caught nude near the park again.

    Fight the ****ing power OP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    Helix wrote: »
    My next, somewhat unwarranted, jump in logic is that if the various world governments rule that it is illegal not to wear any clothes, shouldn't they then be obliged to make free clothing available? After all, if someone can't afford to buy clothes, how can they be expected to wear them? And if it's ruled illegal to be naked in public, surely provisions must be made to have free clothes available for everyone, no?

    If you're so against buying clothes, just steal some binbags and wear them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Da Bounca


    Helix wrote: »
    if someone can't afford to buy clothes, how can they be expected to wear them? And if it's ruled illegal to be naked in public, surely provisions must be made to have free clothes available for everyone, no?
    I'd be very surprised if there wasn't a scheme for funded clothing in place in most countries. Also, don't the likes of Salvation Army and that provide clothing to the needy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 153 ✭✭William_Hicley


    I see your argument but, lets be honest, 99% of us are not very attractive with no cloathes on. I dont wanna be going about my day to day buisness looking at auld wans big hairy bushes all day. Just sayin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Helix wrote: »
    no it's not, it's necessary for healthy life

    So is a car if you don't have the use of your legs are you don't live near a shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭number10a


    Right, so welcome to Ireland. We have this thing for quite some time now called the Social Protection system. It ensures that everyone who lives here has some money. We also have this fine establishment known as Penneys. Put the two together and what do you get??? Clothes!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    TheZohan wrote: »
    So is a car if you don't have the use of your legs are you don't live near a shop.

    a car is in no way necessary for a healthy life


  • Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    Nudity isn't illegal, you're just required to wear clothes in civil society.

    Yeah, that's not true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    OP - What did you think social welfare was for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Helix wrote: »
    a car is in no way necessary for a healthy life

    Why do you hate people with disabilities so much?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    OP - What did you think social welfare was for?

    to give you enough money to survive. clothes dont fall into that category for the majority of the year given the irish climate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    I think the idea of nudity in public being against the law absolutely stupid tbh, for all the reasons given in the op.

    There is nothing wrong with nudity at all.
    Fair enough, we don't really want to see all the flab and ugly bits hanging out while we are trying to buy some milk from tesco, but it's not 'wrong'.

    People should be allowed to be naked in public if they so wish imo.

    Is it like how muslim women are supposed to cover up so that other men than their husbands don't get ideas?
    Would it lead to more rapes?

    What is the reason behind it being illegal?
    I honestly cannot figure it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭effluent


    Helix wrote: »
    Happened across an article earlier which said that a ban on nude hiking has been upheld in Switzerland based on public decency laws, which got me thinking about how ridiculous the whole idea that nudity is something that can be legislated against is.

    We're all born stark bollock nekkid, we use clothes to keep us protected and warm, but how in the hell should it be illegal to choose to walk around without them, should you so wish?

    It's the 21st century now FFS, are we still so backward that the thought of seeing naked people going about their business offends us that much?

    My next, somewhat unwarranted, jump in logic is that if the various world governments rule that it is illegal not to wear any clothes, shouldn't they then be obliged to make free clothing available? After all, if someone can't afford to buy clothes, how can they be expected to wear them? And if it's ruled illegal to be naked in public, surely provisions must be made to have free clothes available for everyone, no?

    Now, back to work.

    I thought that was the point of the FCA

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Helix wrote: »
    to give you enough money to survive. clothes dont fall into that category for the majority of the year given the irish climate

    No, to provide you with a certain standard of living, we could severely reduce it if people just had to "survive" on it. After all, you don't need electricity/transport/means of communication/any food other than 4stone sacks of spuds/... I hate to break it to you but it includes clothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Cill Dara Abu


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Why do you hate people with disabilities so much?
    How the hell you posting with a closed account?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Who made it compulsory that the penis, boobs and vagina were both bad words and indecent in society that while you may have everything else exposed these parts are private. What the.....

    Whos to say i wont bring you to court for exposing you finger in front of my children or me. how dar you have naked fingers put a table cloth or something on them for god sake . this is the 21st maaaaaaannn!:D:p:):rolleyes::o:P:cool::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    How the hell you posting with a closed account?

    It's like in the movie Ghost, I've closed it but obviously I must still have work left to do on Boards before I can pass on...a sort of limbo if you will...I tried walking towards the light but that didn't work...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    will someone please think of the chilblains?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Helix wrote: »
    a car is in no way necessary for a healthy life

    It is if you're driving through the desert.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    TheZohan wrote: »
    It's like in the movie Ghost, I've closed it but obviously I must still have work left to do on Boards before I can pass on...a sort of limbo if you will...I tried walking towards the light but that didn't work...

    When's it going to be "Account Cllosed"?:D


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