Going to Mass on December 25th?

o1s1n · 21-11-2011 01:53PM

Sure didn't the lord himself invent Father Ted so the Irish could stay home and watch television rather than go to mass.

im invisible · 21-11-2011 02:00PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

When ya get there be sure to ask the priest if it's only symbolism, let us know how you get on.

well, i meant symbolism as to the time of year we celebrate it

kfallon · 21-11-2011 02:01PM

chin_grin wrote: »

Yes and because my opinion differs from yours makes me the target why exactly?

Yes you are entitled to an opinion as I am mine. And you did give excuses. Tradition (in my opinion) is an excuse. It's appeasing the older generation just so you can have a content dinner. So it's the ultimate ulterior motive.

No one goes "Wow, that Mass. I'm just blown away it was soooooo enlightening. I have a new outlook on life."

I don't. The rest do. I f*cking hate it. I'm a joy to be around, really. :pac:

Now that's the media-pumped consumer drilled mind talking. :P

Afternoon Scrooge! :P

chin_grin · 21-11-2011 02:02PM

Lady Chuckles wrote: »

Yes, everyone's allowed to have opinions and different traditions. I just don't see why you have to be rude to those who do things in another way than you.
Miss Olenska did not give "excuses", she said she attends Christmas mass, she said it's a tradition of hers and that she enjoys it.

... Saying that's BS is just mean.

D'awwww snookems. Well that's just your opinion then isn't it? :pac:

kfallon wrote: »

Afternoon Scrooge! :P

Howaya! <checks time> Oooh! It is the afternoon. Sweet!

Teyla Emmagan · 21-11-2011 02:04PM

I'll be going, I love Christmas Day mass.

Heathens, the lot of ye.

stimpson · 21-11-2011 02:09PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Heathens, the lot of ye.

You're the one celebrating a pagan festival.

St.Spodo · 21-11-2011 02:11PM

I don't go 364 days a year so no, I won't be wasting one of my favourite days of the year in a poxy church.

hatrickpatrick · 21-11-2011 02:12PM

I prefer going to midnight mass on Christmas Eve, the atmosphere is always much better for some reason. It still counts as Christmas Day mass though as far as I know?

Siuin · 21-11-2011 02:13PM

Looking forward to heading to mass as a devout Atheist along with my quarter Jewish boyfriend -- I do it for my fairly devout mom, to meet relatives (session back in our place afterwards) and to hear the same old lady blast out O Holy Night year after year :P

hatrickpatrick · 21-11-2011 02:13PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Sure didn't the lord himself invent Father Ted so the Irish could stay home and watch television rather than go to mass.

What would you say is behind tomorrow's advent window Father?
A pair of feckin' women's knickers!!!!

Freddie59 · 21-11-2011 02:14PM

yutta wrote: »

To appease the parents/grandparents? Cos it makes you feel good inside? To celebrate the birth of Jesus? To pray for the repose of the souls of your family/friends? Cos you just go every year? Cos Christmas wouldn't be the same without Mass? To celebrate the Holy Sacrafice of the Mass?

From the replies to this OP sofar, I'd love to see the bishops issue a letter to be read out on Christmas day to the a la carte congregation that highlights the hypocrisy of the flock and their utter disregard for going to Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation. Remember, it's a mortal sin not to go to Mass!!!

Man, you have problems.....or maybe its just because you're a WUM.;)

chin_grin · 21-11-2011 02:17PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I prefer going to midnight mass on Christmas Eve, the atmosphere is always much better for some reason. It still counts as Christmas Day mass though as far as I know?

That's ok. You can still trick god in to thinking the same blasphemer. :pac:

Mongarra · 21-11-2011 02:21PM

I'm part of the church choir and enjoy the Christmas hymns, especially "O Holy Night" so I will be going to midnight Mass. I know they'll be on the radio but the atmosphere in the church is usually special so I look forward to it.

Many of my friends have stopped going but that is up to each individual and I see no reason for anyone to have an issue either way on someone else's decision.

Teyla Emmagan · 21-11-2011 02:32PM

stimpson wrote: »

You're the one celebrating a pagan festival.

Birth of Christ is a pagan festival?!

Ghost Buster · 21-11-2011 02:33PM

thebigbiffo wrote: »

nah - haven't been at Christmas mass since i grew up!

:pac:

Clareboy wrote: »

The word ' Christmas' comes from ' Christ Mass ' that is a mass to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. Going to mass on Christmas Day was always a part of Christmas in Ireland and still is for most of us.

Reeeeeeeeeeealy?

The word 'Thursday' comes from 'Thors day' that is a day to celebrate the god of thunder Thor.
Do you do anything in particular on Thursdays?

Eramen · 21-11-2011 02:36PM

I'll be going to Christmas mass as usual. I'm not a practising Catholic i.e. I never usually go to mass but I do feel that attending the major holy days, festivities, sacrifices is worth a great deal, as being part of a congregation where everyone arrives with the same purpose, motivations and values in mind should be greatly appreciated because it helps builds community and some semblance of social continuance in an age where such things are becoming rarer.

Especially at a time where people espouse the common "ME! ME! ME!" attitude and couldn't give a toss about anyone but themselves. This whole thread smacks of the selfish nature of modern Irish.. but really, its hard to find this kind of idiocy, this contemptuous slandering in other parts of Europe/the world on this low level. Backwardness in a nutshell. Christmas in conjunction with our culture still has some part to play at least in bringing us closer together as a family, community and nation, and this is no small feat for an increasingly atomised, fake - individualistic society.

chin_grin · 21-11-2011 02:36PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Reeeeeeeeeeealy?

The word 'Thursday' comes from 'Thors day' that is a day to celebrate the god of thunder Thor.
Do you do anything in particular on Thursdays?

I drink mead. A lot of it. :pac:

Eramen wrote: »

I'll be going to Christmas mass as usual. I'm not a practising Catholic i.e. I never usually go to mass but I do feel that attending the major holy days, festivities, sacrifices is worth a great deal, as being part of a congregation where everyone arrives with the same purpose, motivations and values in mind should be greatly appreciated because it helps builds community and some semblance of social continuance in an age where such things are becoming rarer. (See all this right here? BS again IMO)

Especially at a time where people espouse the common "ME! ME! ME!" attitude and couldn't give a toss about anyone but themselves. This whole thread smacks of the selfish nature of modern Irish.. but really, its hard to find this kind of idiocy, this contemptuous slandering in other parts of Europe/the world on this low level. Backwardness in a nutshell.

What a lovely high horse you have! Golly gee wizz!

Ghost Buster · 21-11-2011 02:41PM

Eramen wrote: »

I'll be going to Christmas mass as usual. I'm not a practising Catholic i.e. I never usually go to mass but I do feel that attending the major holy days, festivities, sacrifices is worth a great deal, as being part of a congregation where everyone arrives with the same purpose, motivations and values in mind should be greatly appreciated because it helps builds community and some semblance of social continuance in an age where such things are becoming rarer.

Especially at a time where people espouse the common "ME! ME! ME!" attitude and couldn't give a toss about anyone but themselves. This whole thread smacks of the selfish nature of modern Irish.. but really, its hard to find this kind of idiocy, this contemptuous slandering in other parts of Europe/the world on this low level. Backwardness in a nutshell.

Wow. You obviously glean Christs message from the masses you attend!

Ps you can get "being part of a congregation where everyone arrives with the same purpose, motivations and values in mind" from a pub, cock fighting or volunteering at your local homeless shelter.....

MagicMarker · 21-11-2011 02:43PM

Eramen wrote: »

I'll be going to Christmas mass as usual. I'm not a practising Catholic i.e. I never usually go to mass but I do feel that attending the major holy days, festivities, sacrifices is worth a great deal, as being part of a congregation where everyone arrives with the same purpose, motivations and values in mind should be greatly appreciated because it helps builds community and some semblance of social continuance in an age where such things are becoming rarer.

Especially at a time where people espouse the common "ME! ME! ME!" attitude and couldn't give a toss about anyone but themselves. This whole thread smacks of the selfish nature of modern Irish.. but really, its hard to find this kind of idiocy, this contemptuous slandering in other parts of Europe/the world on this low level. Backwardness in a nutshell. Christmas in conjunction with our culture still has some part to play at least in bringing us closer together as a family, community and nation, and this is no small feat for an increasingly atomised, fake - individualistic society.

Everyone meeting up once a year builds community?

Interesting....

Onthe3rdDay · 21-11-2011 02:44PM

Christmas has been around a lot longer than Jesus. It was just repackaged a few years back, (like Marathon Bar or Network 2). The mass going is a recent development if you think about it. So by not going you're a real traditionalist.

Eramen · 21-11-2011 02:48PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

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Wow. You obviously glean Christs message from the masses you attend!

Ps you can get "being part of a congregation where everyone arrives with the same purpose, motivations and values in mind" from a pub, cock fighting or volunteering at your local homeless shelter.....

You don't get it, (do you even want to?) - these things aren't done with the intent of bonding on a level which promotes communal unity or social/religious communion, they are done for pure entertainment. I'm surprised I have to even point this fact out..

Acting in such a way to induce and move forward to a greater good is the aim of mass in general, as it gives an opportunity for people to meet others to work with, all who share a common belief, convictions and religious & cultural identity.

Miss Olenska · 21-11-2011 02:48PM

chin_grin wrote: »

What a lovely high horse you have! Golly gee wizz!

Oh the irony.

Shenshen · 21-11-2011 02:50PM

yutta wrote: »

To appease the parents/grandparents? Cos it makes you feel good inside? To celebrate the birth of Jesus? To pray for the repose of the souls of your family/friends? Cos you just go every year? Cos Christmas wouldn't be the same without Mass? To celebrate the Holy Sacrafice of the Mass?

From the replies to this OP sofar, I'd love to see the bishops issue a letter to be read out on Christmas day to the a la carte congregation that highlights the hypocrisy of the flock and their utter disregard for going to Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation. Remember, it's a mortal sin not to go to Mass!!!

Since I couldn't be bothered about any mortal sins any other day of the year, why would I bother going to church on christmas?

Eramen · 21-11-2011 02:51PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Everyone meeting up once a year builds community?

Interesting....

I didn't say that you must admit, it's a process like anything else, meeting people of a like mind is a must for communal self-betterment. Mass - the subject of this thread - is just one of MANY opportunities people will have for the society-building and self-refinement. Mass is not an end in itself, but part of a bigger picture of community involvement.

Use your head please.

stimpson · 21-11-2011 02:52PM

Eramen wrote: »

they are done for pure entertainment. I'm surprised I have to even point this fact out..

What kind of a sicko volunteers at a homeless centre for entertainment?

Shenshen · 21-11-2011 02:53PM

Eramen wrote: »

You don't get it, (do you even want to?) - these things aren't done with the intent of bonding on a level which promotes communal unity or social/religious communion, they are done for pure entertainment. I'm surprised I have to even point this fact out..

Acting in such a way to induce and move forward to a greater good is the aim of mass in general, as it gives an opportunity for people to meet others to work with, all who share a common belief, convictions and religious & cultural identity.

I would somehow doubt that you share a lot of belief or convictions with the OP, so will you two be hissing at each other in mass this christmas?

The King of Moo · 21-11-2011 02:53PM

OP, why are you so concerned with other people and what they do?

If you go to Mass regularly and feel that you're a good Christian, be happy with that.

chin_grin · 21-11-2011 02:53PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Oh the irony.

I know right?

passarellaie · 21-11-2011 02:58PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

OP, why are you so concerned with other people and what they do?

If you go to Mass regularly and feel that you're a good Christian, be happy with that.

Fine but let those who dont be respectful of others.The juveniles here who boast about their irreligion is quite pathetic

flutterflye · 21-11-2011 03:05PM

Eramen wrote: »

This piece of knowledge you posted is misappropriated, because though the outward images of this festival has changed over time, the meaning remains very close to the original. This is what is important. The qualities of the Sun is revered, but significant also because it retells in the Christian tradition of the restorative power of the teachings & life of the God-man Christ, specifically his birth as the beginning of greatness, and his acts which speak of a universal compassion for all life. This brings all of like mind together - whether they be Christian, Atheist, Naturalist, Pagan, etc.

It's not my intent to preach here, just to point out that the tradition remains and the symbolism still relevant. You just have to look below the surface.

What like the symbolism of purposely taking over another religion's festival??
That's not very compassionate now is it?

Going to Mass on December 25th?

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