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Going to Mass on December 25th?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    yutta wrote: »
    There's a Holy Sacrafice at every Mass. Every Mass re-enacts Calgary -- the most powerful prayer ever to come up from this earth.


    Didn't know jesus had ever been to western canada.

    or did you mean Calvary?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Clareboy wrote: »
    The word ' Christmas' comes from ' Christ Mass ' that is a mass to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. Going to mass on Christmas Day was always a part of Christmas in Ireland and still is for most of us.

    I'm not attacking you in any way it comes with the territory that is religion but that's just deluded. I feel sorry that you've been so brainwashed by thinking that the very basis of doing something over and over and over and not questioning it, is ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    I used to love going to mass at 8 o'clock on Christmas Eve, leaving after communion and then hitting the pub for a few afterwards! I go to my dad's anniversary mass every year and used to go to Christmas mass but they were the only two out of the year. I decided last Christmas not to go for the first year ever and my mam wasn't happy, but I thought it would be very hypocritical of me to go, since I don't consider myself a Catholic or even a Christian anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Yeah I used to do it as part of the tradition, but I haven't for the past 5 years or so. I love Christmas, but not the Catholic church..... or organised religion in general for that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    bluewolf wrote: »
    i never go and i dont plan to
    not catholic


    :eek:


    What the hell are you?????????????????????

    :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    summerskin wrote: »
    Didn't know jesus had ever been to western canada.

    or did you mean Calvary?

    In fairness, that was an awesome winter Olympics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Go because you want to go*, otherwise be true to yourself and don't go. Why would you go becuase someone esle wants you to or would be upset if you didn't?

    *it doesnt matter WHY you want to go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Rookster


    Absurdum wrote: »
    wah wah wah wah wah Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    If it is boring, then why are you on the thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    I go to check out the Milfs (and Gilfs :P) in their finery bringing the little ones to Christmas mass......just cos it's Christmas doesn't mean you shouldn't be updating the ould 'Spank bank' :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Haelium wrote: »
    Christians changed the name and the meaning when they invaded.
    i dont see what that has got to do with anything, if they changed the meaning, but left the name, or changed the name but left the meaning, you might have a point. I dont see the problem. ;/)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    kfallon wrote: »
    I go to check out the Milfs (and Gilfs :P) in their finery bringing the little ones to Christmas mass......just cos it's Christmas doesn't mean you shouldn't be updating the ould 'Spank bank' :pac:

    But I have a cosy home and an internet connection. I can update it there. :pac:

    Why would I want to be bored and cold for an hour and shake someone's hand they just sneezed in to. Yeah "peace be with you" sure. Me hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    Well, we go to Christmas Eve Mass. I'm atheist. Why do I go? Tradition, family togetherness, greeting neighbours and it gives me that childhood Christmassy excited feeling. Oh and I LOVE Christmas hymns. :)
    Paparazzo wrote: »
    Anyway, santa brings me presents, not Jesus. If I'm going to praise anyone that day, it'll be Santa

    Uh, he's called Annual Gift Man. Get it right, ffs. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Well, we go to Christmas Eve Mass. I'm atheist. Why do I go? Tradition, family together and it gives me that childhood Christmassy excited feeling. Oh and I LOVE Christmas hymns What? That's how they get you. With a catchy tune!. :)

    It's still a BS excuse.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    chin_grin wrote: »

    I hate Ricky Gervais's stand up. Bleurgh.

    And it's not an excuse. What am I excusing?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    I like watching the Queen's Speech on the telly at 3pm every Christmas Day. It's tradition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 Fr.Harry Bell


    Unless you have the right reasons for attending Mass, I shouldn't bother.


    Waste of time for everybody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    I hate Ricky Gervais's stand up. Bleurgh.

    And it's not an excuse. What am I excusing?

    The need to go to Christmas Mass. It's the subject of the thread! :pac:

    Ricky is an acquired taste, but he does have a point here. Even if the delivery/punchline is crass. (But very f*cking funny).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    chin_grin wrote: »
    I'm not attacking you in any way it comes with the territory that is religion but that's just deluded. I feel sorry that you've been so brainwashed by thinking that the very basis of doing something over and over and over and not questioning it, is ok.

    Give it a rest, will ya? We get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    chin_grin wrote: »
    The need to go to Christmas Mass. It's the subject of the thread! :pac:

    I gave reasons, not excuses. It doesn't matter whether or not you validate those reasons, and you not validating them doesn't make them excuses.

    Oh, and Gervais's stand-up sucks donkey's balls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    chin_grin wrote: »
    I'm not attacking you in any way it comes with the territory that is religion but that's just deluded. I feel sorry that you've been so brainwashed by thinking that the very basis of doing something over and over and over and not questioning it, is ok.

    I'm an athiest, so this religious stuff doesn't concern me.
    But I assume that every year you put a tree in your house and decorate it with glittery things, that you and your family exchange gifts that no one really wants and no one can really afford, that you have a dinner with turkey and ham, and do all the other traditional type things that go along with christmas, yes?

    I personally cannot fathom why anyone would go to mass on christmas if they do not usually go, and if they are not catholic.

    But I just think it is a silly argument to make - that someone is brainwashed because it is part of their tradition, yet we all have our own traditions that we follow every year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Haelium


    i dont see what that has got to do with anything, if they changed the meaning, but left the name, or changed the name but left the meaning, you might have a point. I dont see the problem. ;/)

    "Jesus" probably wasn't born on December 25th?
    The holiday has an older meaning, so tradition is pointless?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    chin_grin wrote: »
    I'm not attacking you in any way it comes with the territory that is religion but that's just deluded. I feel sorry that you've been so brainwashed by thinking that the very basis of doing something over and over and over and not questioning it, is ok.
    Like buying presents I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Give it a rest, will ya? We get it.

    Yes and because my opinion differs from yours makes me the target why exactly?
    I gave reasons, not excuses. It doesn't matter whether or not you validate those reasons, and you not validating them doesn't make them excuses.

    Oh, and Gervais's stand-up sucks donkeys balls.

    Yes you are entitled to an opinion as I am mine. And you did give excuses. Tradition (in my opinion) is an excuse. It's appeasing the older generation just so you can have a content dinner. So it's the ultimate ulterior motive.

    No one goes "Wow, that Mass. I'm just blown away it was soooooo enlightening. I have a new outlook on life."

    I'm an athiest, so this religious stuff doesn't concern me.
    But I assume that every year you put a tree in your house and decorate it with glittery things, that you and your family exchange gifts that no one really wants and no one can really afford, that you have a dinner with turkey and ham, and do all the other traditional type things that go along with christmas, yes?

    I personally cannot fathom why anyone would go to mass on christmas if they do not usually go, and if they are not catholic.

    But I just think it is a silly argument to make - that someone is brainwashed because it is part of their tradition, yet we all have our own traditions that we follow every year.

    I don't. The rest do. I f*cking hate it. I'm a joy to be around, really. :pac:
    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Like buying presents I suppose.

    Now that's the media-pumped consumer drilled mind talking. :P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I'd rather go to a mass grave.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Miss Olenska


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Tradition (in my opinion) is an excuse.

    Yup, it is indeed your opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Haelium wrote: »
    "Jesus" probably wasn't born on December 25th?
    The holiday has an older meaning, so tradition is pointless?
    well, we have to celebrate it some time, right? why not a couple days after the shortest day of the year, a new birth, begining, whatever, its only symbolism, he wasnt born in 1AD either...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Nope


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I will be at mass with all the family christmas eve, however I do go to mass during the year too when I can so its I'm not being hypocritical or doing it because I'm forced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭Lady Chuckles


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Yes you are entitled to an opinion as I am mine. And you did give excuses. Tradition (in my opinion) is an excuse. It's appeasing the older generation just so you can have a content dinner. So it's the ultimate ulterior motive.

    Yes, everyone's allowed to have opinions and different traditions. I just don't see why you have to be rude to those who do things in another way than you.
    Miss Olenska did not give "excuses", she said she attends Christmas mass, she said it's a tradition of hers and that she enjoys it.

    ... Saying that's BS is just mean.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    well, we have to celebrate it some time, right? why not a couple days after the shortest day of the year, a new birth, begining, whatever, its only symbolism, he wasnt born in 1AD either...
    When ya get there be sure to ask the priest if it's only symbolism, let us know how you get on.


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