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Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    When Wilshere comes back, who will be left out, Arteta or Ramsey? Both have done well together IMO but Wilshere will obviously walk back into the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    song


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭1mcampo1


    Noo wrote: »
    song

    Wha?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    Noo wrote: »
    song
    ah doubt it mate, he's an important Def mid :pac:
    Think arteta and ramsey will have to battle it out on the training ground :D
    Me personally i think it'll be ramsey :rolleyes:
    Wenger will want arteta in the middle with his experience and all :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    Wenger spent 10mill on arteta to play him. Ramsey has done nothing to deserve being dropped and is improving the more he plays, similar to wilshere last season, but because he isn't English there isn't the same media hype. So i think it'll be song. Just my opinion.

    But with arsenals injury record it might not be a difficult decision come January.

    I like ramsey, i might just be in denial that it'll be him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I'd say Wenger will ease Wilshere back into the starting 11, after admitting overplaying him is what led to his injury in the first place.
    Then someone else will get injured so the midfield will pick itself! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    Galvasean wrote: »
    I'd say Wenger will ease Wilshere back into the starting 11, after admitting overplaying him is what led to his injury in the first place.
    Then someone else will get injured so the midfield will pick itself! :pac:

    well said :D hel prob bring on wilshere for ramsey with 10 mins left and the next time for arteta with 15 to go :D
    probably get laughed at for saying this now, but it be handy if eboue was still here for the whole right flank :P:P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Le boo :(


    You got my hopes up with your post earlier.......

    fcuk you Galv :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    Wilshere won't replace Song, it's stupid to think that
    Our midfield next year will be rotated alot I think
    Arteta is playing where wilshere plays
    Song where frimpong and coq
    Ramsey plays where gzote plays who we are pushing hard for, we might not get but it shows the type of midfielder were looking for


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,011 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Noo wrote: »
    Wenger spent 10mill on arteta to play him. Ramsey has done nothing to deserve being dropped and is improving the more he plays, similar to wilshere last season, but because he isn't English there isn't the same media hype. So i think it'll be song. Just my opinion.

    But with arsenals injury record it might not be a difficult decision come January.

    I like ramsey, i might just be in denial that it'll be him.

    There's not a chance of it being Song, he's too valuable to our first 11. Ramsey is more likely if it came down to who to drop scenario, although in today's game its going to be more about rotation and in Arsenals case who's fit.

    I think Arteta is doing an important job in the middle, Ramsey has good games or does some good things within a game but he ain't yet at the level of being able to rely on him being influential for 90 mins week in week out, still feel he is drifting in and out of games

    Would take no additions to the middle come January if we got in a quality centre forward


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    Auvers wrote: »
    if Wenger does leave at the end of the season, who would you like to see as manager?

    in fantasy land I hope its a straight swap for Pep to the gunners and Wenger to Barca
    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    I'd let Wenger pick his replacement, or at least let him make recomendations.

    If/when he steps down, I dont think he'll leave the club, he's put too much in to it to start fresh at a new club at his age. I think he'll be getting one of those fancy higher up jobs. You know, the one's that dont really appear to do anything.

    He already has said who he wishes to replace him if he goes. Dragan Stojković.

    Who is he, you say?


    :P

    But seriously, I do think Wenger put his name forward over the summer as the man he wishes to replace him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    No-one answered on the match thread but am I the only one who thinks that it was a ridiculously obvious foul on Mertesacker before the equaliser? Luckily it wasn't enough to cost a result but at the start of the season it definitely would've been. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ImpossibleDuck


    amacachi wrote: »
    No-one answered on the match thread but am I the only one who thinks that it was a ridiculously obvious foul on Mertesacker before the equaliser? Luckily it wasn't enough to cost a result but at the start of the season it definitely would've been. :pac:

    God no. Frankly I was ashamed at Wenger complaining about it. Did you watch his post-match interview with BBC? I don't think he even believes it was a foul anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Next time I hear commentators or pundits say something like "You can't put your hands on someone..." I'll have a little laugh so.


  • Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You got my hopes up with your post earlier.......

    fcuk you Galv :p

    Wenger didn't rule it out.
    "At the moment we have a big squad and anyway, that problem cannot examined before the end of December.

    And then...
    "Thierry's future is in the United States. He is going back in February.

    Gervinho will be missing cause of the ANC in January. I'd never say never with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    amacachi wrote: »
    No-one answered on the match thread but am I the only one who thinks that it was a ridiculously obvious foul on Mertesacker before the equaliser? Luckily it wasn't enough to cost a result but at the start of the season it definitely would've been. :pac:

    It could have been given, but it would have been soft enough really. I was surprised with how badly Mertesacker dealt with it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,009 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    L'prof wrote: »
    It could have been given, but it would have been soft enough really. I was surprised with how badly Mertesacker dealt with it!

    I would not have given a free for that. Mert went down too easily. The prat should have booted it anywhere but he probably had too many options and became confused. Poor from an experienced professional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    He already has said who he wishes to replace him if he goes. Dragan Stojković.

    Who is he, you say?


    :P

    But seriously, I do think Wenger put his name forward over the summer as the man he wishes to replace him.
    That was quality :D

    Just Goggled him and I remember him now. Wouldnt have remembered the name but remember him being mentioned alright. He's only 46 too so if he does the business he could be around for a long time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,920 ✭✭✭pudzey101




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    I said it before i don't think he'll buy in January. He has mentioned his large squad plenty of times and bought loads players in the summer who haven't got any action yet. We're already discussing who'll miss out in January when wilshere comes back, do you really think he'll buy another player with the full midfield choice he has already.

    If he buys at all it'll be a striker, but then again you can't just put in a striker without dropping someone in midfield.

    If we're injury ridden by then it might be a different story but i just can't see him buying.


  • Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No chance at Abidal. At 32, he's too old and there'll be no re-sell value. I cannot see us getting Goetze. It would have to be City, but saying that, if he did join us, it would be like when Bergkamp signed for us. I'd be shocked.

    I can't see us signing anyone in January, but like the time we signed Mad Jens last year, it wouldn't surprise me to see Henry play in January while the ANC is on (or at least be on the bench).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭the untitled user


    Well, in relation to the size of the squad, we already have enough bodies to cover all the major positions. So it's very unlikely you'll see Wenger buying to cover a position like he did in August again, he'll now be going after those high profile targets he tried to line up in the wake of Cesc's departure.

    For example, the reported interest in Goetze, Martin and Hazard all seems genuine to a degree. Landing one of them wont be easy though, and their clubs will almost certainly not be willing to part until the Summer at the very earliest. But there seems to be enough noise coming from those stories to suggest there's some activity there (no smoke without fire and all that) so my guess is that's where Wenger is looking to prioritize at the moment.


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is Goetze not a centre mid/attacking mid? Not really a position we need players in, we have 2 of the best young midfielders in Europe already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭emergingstar


    I can see us making a big big signing in January


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,051 ✭✭✭✭L'prof


    AdamD wrote: »
    Is Goetze not a centre mid/attacking mid? Not really a position we need players in, we have 2 of the best young midfielders in Europe already.

    I'd rate him more highly than Ramsey at the moment and he's a year and a half younger. Can't see us signing someone ahead of Ramsey though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭the untitled user


    AdamD wrote: »
    Is Goetze not a centre mid/attacking mid? Not really a position we need players in, we have 2 of the best young midfielders in Europe already.

    plays in a more advanced position than Ramsey. We've plenty of midfielders at the moment, but since Cesc and Nasri went we've no one who's a natural at playing in between the lines, which is one of the reasons we're struggling to break down weaker teams. I also think Wenger reckons Gervinho and Walcott would get more goals if the midfield could be relied upon to create more through the middle (i.e. by allowing Walcott and Gervinho to run behind the lines more).


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nasri wasn't creative. Wish people could stop think he was better than he was just due to press hype.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭the untitled user


    AdamD wrote: »
    Nasri wasn't creative. Wish people could stop think he was better than he was just due to press hype.

    Maybe, but frequently he would drift inside and support the midfield, often showing up in the hole and offer the midfielders an outlet or someone to play a one two with. That's what I believe we're lacking a little at the moment.

    Anyway, interesting blog piece here: Arsenal a one man team? Yes, but it's not the man you think: Arsenal owe their resurgence to one man: Mikel Arteta.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,587 ✭✭✭✭cson


    He's very much playing an Alonso-esque role for us at the moment from a deep position. He does make decent runs into the box too - goal vs Blackburn and the shot he had vs Norwich.

    Wouldn't say he's the sole reason for our resurgence - RVP is the main man for that imo but Arteta's done well. So long as he stays away from free kicks I'll be happy out. :)


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