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An open letter to all Twilight fans

  • 20-11-2011 04:48PM
    #1
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,654 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Good evening,

    If you're reading this, I'm going to assume you're either a Twilight fan or someone who's bored and decided to click into this thread for a chuckle. Welcome, anyway, but this post is directly directed at anyone who might be going to see The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 (a shoo in for a nomination in 'titles that really aren't suited to twitter discussion' Oscar category this year).

    Up until now, I've perceived Twilight with a mix of bemusement and apathy. It's something I assumed I didn't 'get', and was more than happy to ignore it in favour of stuff I could care about. I just wrote if as a social phenomena that wasn't aimed at me: the cynical, mid-twenties film student.

    But today **** got personal. Well, not really, but I'm taking it as a direct insult. I decided to check out the local multiplex timetables in the admittedly foolish hope that they'd be snowing Australian break through hit Snowtown. Since I've spent approximately two fifths of my waking hours this week commuting, the idea of trudging into Dublin to see it doesn't appeal. So I checked the timetable, admittedly with little hope.

    It, obviously, wasn't showing. But very little else was either, apart from a tonne of silly action films and a bound-to-be mediocre Brett Ratner movie. A few decent films, still somehow lingering in the cinema around two months after their initial release, were still showing, but been there, bought the t-shirt etc.

    What was showing was Twilight.

    Thirteen. ****ing. Times.

    Now this bothered me. Surely one - a mere single screening - could have been excised to make way for something that us non-Twilight fans could watch and enjoy. I'm well aware Twilight is popular, and it would be remiss of me to begrudge the cinema owners out of making money, but still.

    Thirteen! And over thirty times over the course of the weekend.

    So, it's time I let you in on a secret. This may come as a shock, but it needs to be said as Snowtown continues to be relegated to arthouse cinemas across the country (or, more specifically, Dublin. My thoughts are with my rural comrades). Here's the truth: you don't like Twilight.

    Now, who am I to make such a ludicrous, even condescending judgement. It is not my intention to insult. I'm also aware many viewers watch Twilight ironically, or even as a guilty but disposable pleasure. That's fine. I'm directing this more at anyone who has been - understandably - tricked into thinking this is any way shape or form anything other than worthless trash. I just feel it's important to get this out there, and if I can even prevent one person from paying into see the film, I consider my work complete.

    Firstly, you should be aware that the studios are tricking you with attractive people. I myself have fallen victim to this: I once watched Brothers because it featured Natalie Portman, and regret that decision to this day. But the reality is they're trying to numb you into submission by parading all manner of shirtless superhunks in front of you. Friend, google will serve the same purpose in a far less melodramatic manner.

    Secondly, this is the perfect example of peer pressure, or suggestion by force. It's like schoolyard dynamics: if everyone's talking about something, you can be damn sure I'll want to be part of the party, no matter how poor the subject in question is. We see this all over society as it continues to celebrate mediocrity. The undeserved popularity of the X-Factor or Michael Buble are further examples of this triumph of untalent.

    Thirdly, this really doesn't need to be two films from any (lulzworthy) plot synopsis I've endured. You're being taken for a monetary ride.

    Mostly, we can blame Stephanie Meyer, that crafter of deplorable, offensive subversions of classic mythology. In her continued failure to grasp the appeal of the vampire myth, she has instead decided to appeal to people's basest, most (deservedly) hidden instincts and created a franchise that has the artistic merit of a particularly narrative-free pornographic film.

    Vampires aren't meant to emote and declare their undying (ho!) love for each other, and they sure as **** aren't meant to sparkle. They're meant to be creepy, confused beings with shocking bloodthirst. Although - let's be honest - a caesarean section with fangs is a step too far, especially for a franchise predominantly aimed at tweens.

    I have taken the liberty of including links to a few far better films about vampires: many of which cover similar topics, in a far more cinematic and much less lame way than the Twilight films have. Please: watch one instead of Twilight 4, or 5, or whatever the hell its on at this point. You'll find it's much more rewarding in the long term, and you'll soon forget you were even a member of Team Jacob. You'll be on Team Klaus Kinski instead. Phwoar.

    Yours sincerely,
    A concerned citizen.

    PS: Interview with the Vampire would be a good drug to ween yourself off this camp stuff.







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Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    It was on 18 times in Storm Cinema in Limerick, 18 fúcking times!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,435 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Do you honestly think anyone who is into Twilight would have the attention span to read that entire post? They'd have swooned as soon as you said "The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn 1"

    At the end of the day, multiplex cinemas are businesses. If Twilight is gonna make them and the studios money, that's what's gonna be shown unfortunately!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 OKeeffer


    The general public are morons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭ronano


    24 times in cineworld today, is it just me or has this been the downside of introduction of digital? feels like it's so much more these days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    well, job done, that's me convinced. . .











    . . .sorry OP, I had no intention of ever exposing myself to that pish but I'll show this thread to herself. I assume she'll have completely forgotten about it by the time she and the rest of her cackle go to see it tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,756 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Do yourself a favour Johnny and buy Snowtown on DVD or Bluray and enjoy it in your own home away from a noisy multiplex.
    Most cinemas are catering towards kids and families with the result that the vast majority of films they show are junk .
    I rarely visit the cinema anymore ,I used to go week in week out ,I prefer to watch it in the comfort of my own home on my projector and surround sound system.Much much better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    I liked Brothers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Vue in Liffey Valley has a special over-18s screening on, as well as 23 standard showings per day.


    Surely nobody over the age of 18 can be suckered in by this inane crap? I can forgive young fans in the 10-16 age group, they're young and have a lot to learn. But adults? Surely not?

    And maybe this is just me but I don't think any of the cast are particularly attractive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    phasers wrote: »
    Vue in Liffey Valley has a special over-18s screening on, as well as 12 standard showings per day.


    Surely nobody over the age of 18 can be suckered in by this inane crap? I can forgive young fans in the 10-16 age group, they're young and have a lot to learn. But adults? Surely not?

    possible metal condition maybe


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,654 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Do yourself a favour Johnny and buy Snowtown on DVD or Bluray and enjoy it in your own home away from a noisy multiplex.

    I'm a romantic. Cinema is still the place for me. I'll see it in the IFI at some point.
    RopeDrink wrote: »

    Given horror is my favourite genre, having to look at a supposed 'vampire' that glitters in daylight is just pathetic

    sex-on-fire.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Johnny. You're my hero. That post just made my day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    it's called the 'movie business' for a reason. you cant change human nature/hormones and exploitation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    Twilight isn't a story about vampires and werewolves it's a story about a girl and her boyfriend and her best friend that wants to be her boyfriend. Therefore any references to vampire films isn't relevant.

    Secondly, your letter should be addressed to the people that organise the screenings in cinemas.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,654 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    it's called the 'movie business' for a reason. you cant change human nature/hormones and exploitation.

    But I sure as hell can give out about it on the Internet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭Dohnny Jepp


    I loved this quote by Stephen King about Twilight and Harry Potter.

    “Harry Potter is about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.”
    Stephen King


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    I loved this quote by Stephen King about Twilight and Harry Potter.

    “Harry Potter is about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.”
    Stephen King

    SK is a legend and he wrote Salem's Lot a brilliant vampire novel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    great rant OP, the amount sh1te status updates on facebook from grown adults about this wretched series is sickening. tweens I'll forgive, they're stupid and romantic, but women in their 40's thinking its ok to have an over possessive, emotionally manipulative man in your life as being a good thing need a bit of fcuking cop on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    I managed to watch a bit of twilight on TV until it got to the part where it revealed that vampires sparkle in sunlight, part of me died that day :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    So your local multiplex wasn't showing the film that you wanted to see so instead of giving out about that, you decided to jump on the internet and bash twilight fans who have as much of a right to see their movie in their local cinema as you do.

    Honestly, this is a completely pointless thread as it hardly addresses the main point of less popular films not getting the showcase that they perhaps deserve. Instead you come across as a spoiled child throwing your toys out of the pram ranting at people because they like a certain movie. It doesn't matter that the film was Twilight.

    The same thing will happen when the next Batman movie comes out but I doubt so many ppl will be complaining then. It is just the way the cinema business works at the moment and if you don't like that, complain about it instead of writing a pompous post against a series of films that you don't like. And that's not even mentioning the utterly condescending way you decide that Twilight fans need recommendations from you about other Vampire movies that you think are better.

    And for what it's worth, I've never read a Twilight book or seen any of the movies and I have no intention to ever see or read them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭foxinsox


    I happened upon the Twilight movie on TV a few weeks ago..

    I only watched it out of curiosty to see what all the fuss was about..

    There wasn't much else on TV, it was ok ish, well better than the shopping channel or Bridezilla ..


    Can I ask a silly question?

    Is this film in the cinema now the second movie?

    The one I saw on tv was the one where he "sparkles", they play baseball and they go to the prom...

    Thanks


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,654 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I apologise, Sparrow, if you took my tongue-in-cheek post as anything insulting. This was not the intention - it was (a trollish, admittedly) attempt at kick starting a discourse. However, I must fix one small part of your post in the name of honesty and fairness.
    And that's not even mentioning the utterly condescending way you decide that Twilight fans need recommendations from you about other Vampire movies that you think are better.

    Are better.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    Funny-Twilight-Picture-random-13515177-550-794.jpg?1321646893


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,614 ✭✭✭The Sparrow


    I apologise, Sparrow, if you took my tongue-in-cheek post as anything insulting. This was not the intention - it was (a trollish, admittedly) attempt at kick starting a discourse. However, I must fix one small part of your post in the name of honesty and fairness.

    No need to appologise, I wasn't a bit offended. Just exasparated at the arrogance of your (not in any way tongue in cheek) arrogance and suggestion that you are somehow the arbiter of which movies are better that others. But I'm sure you probably didn't mean it.
    Are better.

    Oh wait... you did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler





    Are better.

    boom, if you're going to write a series of books about something then completely ignore or change the mythology of the thing you're writing about to fit your own skewed agenda into it and manipulate teenage girls you deserve every bit of flack Myers gets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    No need to appologise, I wasn't a bit offended. Just exasparated at the arrogance of your (not in any way tongue in cheek) arrogance and suggestion that you are somehow the arbiter of which movies are better that others. But I'm sure you probably didn't mean it.

    I don't think any critic (or anyone who has seen the mentioned film) would disagree with him about them being better. I think "Thirst" was one of the best films I've seen in years and is most definitely far superior to Twilight. The same applies for "Let the Right One In". :cool:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,654 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    No need to appologise, I wasn't a bit offended. Just exasparated at the arrogance of your (not in any way tongue in cheek) arrogance and suggestion that you are somehow the arbiter of which movies are better that others. But I'm sure you probably didn't mean it.

    Oh wait... you did.

    Again, I can only express my regret that you interpreted my post in that way through my own lack of clarity. It was all in the name of fun, and everyone's input is, as always on this film forum, valued.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,813 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    So your local multiplex wasn't showing the film that you wanted to see so instead of giving out about that, you decided to jump on the internet and bash twilight fans who have as much of a right to see their movie in their local cinema as you do.

    Honestly, this is a completely pointless thread as it hardly addresses the main point of less popular films not getting the showcase that they perhaps deserve. Instead you come across as a spoiled child throwing your toys out of the pram ranting at people because they like a certain movie. It doesn't matter that the film was Twilight.

    The same thing will happen when the next Batman movie comes out but I doubt so many ppl will be complaining then. It is just the way the cinema business works at the moment and if you don't like that, complain about it instead of writing a pompous post against a series of films that you don't like. And that's not even mentioning the utterly condescending way you decide that Twilight fans need recommendations from you about other Vampire movies that you think are better.

    And for what it's worth, I've never read a Twilight book or seen any of the movies and I have no intention to ever see or read them.

    I've seen all the twilight movies to date, I've even read the first book, so I think that puts me in a better position than you to say that everything johnny_ultimate says is bang on the money.

    Comparing these films to Batman is silly, considering you have not watched any you really have no idea how bad they are, New Moon in particular was atrocious. Even if you set aside the dull unlikeable characters, messing up the vampire mythology etc. the films are just awash with really really bad acting, thats a fact my good man, nothing to do with opinions. Now the third one was a marked improvment over the first two but that really is not saying a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    I loved this quote by Stephen King about Twilight and Harry Potter.

    “Harry Potter is about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity. Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend.”
    Stephen King
    Once thought I'd never watch a Harry Potter but I'm slowly coming round to it. Twilight just ain't never gonna make it for me.
    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Don't want to see girl who acts with the exact same expression for every mood, tone and event in the film
    Obligatory pic (even if you've seen it already)
    funny-emma-watson-vs-kristen-stewart.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Well done OP. I love a long winded, well thought out thread with delicious highlights of humour.


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