Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

Blatter · 19-11-2011 02:45PM

I wouldn't say Guardiola is that unrealistic of a possibility as he's widely reported to be leaving Barcelona at the end of the season. Although he might want a break from football.

Maybe Wenger could get the Barcelona job at the end of the season btw? Would be amazing for him if he did. I think he'd be an ideal candidate for the job there too. If Pep does leave that is.

amacachi · 19-11-2011 02:53PM

I look forward to proposals from those who wanted Wenger gone a few months ago :pac:

Quazzie · 19-11-2011 02:59PM

Am I the only one thats unimpressed by Gervinho. His first touch is awful and he give away the ball far too often. I've seen him getting praise on here recently and I just don't get it.

flahavaj · 19-11-2011 03:05PM

Blatter wrote: »

I wouldn't say Guardiola is that unrealistic of a possibility as he's widely reported to be leaving Barcelona at the end of the season. Although he might want a break from football.

Maybe Wenger could get the Barcelona job at the end of the season btw? Would be amazing for him if he did. I think he'd be an ideal candidate for the job there too. If Pep does leave that is.

I don't believe for one minute all this talk we constantly hear that Guardiola is only in the Barca job for the short term. I could see him still being there in ten years time. The club is his life and he'll never get a better job than this one - the best team in the world, with the best youth set up, plenty money to spend and to cap it all off all this at the club he has supported and played for since he was a kid.

flahavaj · 19-11-2011 03:06PM

I wonder how all those lads who wanted Wenger gone feel now btw. They will only realise how good he was when he's gone. I have so much time and respect for the man, a great manager and rival over the years.

19-11-2011 03:06PM

A few weeks ago I was praising Gervinho and slagging off Walcott. I must look like a bit of an idiot today

enfant terrible · 19-11-2011 03:10PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I don't believe for one minute all this talk we constantly hear that Guardiola is only in the Barca job for the short term. I could see him still being there in ten years time. The club is his life and he'll never get a better job than this one - the best team in the world, with the best youth set up, plenty money to spend and to cap it all off all this at the club he has supported and played for since he was a kid.

No I think Guardiola will definately leave this season.

Anyone know who much more Andy Caroll cost than Van Persie?:D

Blatter · 19-11-2011 03:11PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I don't believe for one minute all this talk we constantly hear that Guardiola is only in the Barca job for the short term. I could see him still being there in ten years time. The club is his life and he'll never get a better job than this one - the best team in the world, with the best youth set up, plenty money to spend and to cap it all off all this at the club he has supported and played for since he was a kid.

I don't understand it myself but Guardiola himself is always hinting at leaving and there is a feeling among many Barca fans that he'll leave at the end of the season.

Guardiola

"My future will be very tough," he admitted. "I'll be at another club, trying to find these type of players... But maybe that will be a great challenge for me, to take the players I will have at that club and try to get them to reach their top level, no?"

flahavaj · 19-11-2011 03:13PM

Blatter wrote: »

I don't understand it myself but Guardiola himself is always hinting at leaving and there is a feeling among many Barca fans that he'll leave at the end of the season.

Oh yeah I've heard him say it a lot etc I just don't really believe him.

It would be very interesting to see how another manager would fare with that squad - how much of it is down to Pep and how much is down to just how ridiculously talented they are?

Sorry lads I know its the wrong thread.

gnfnrhead · 19-11-2011 03:16PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

No I think Guardiola will definately leave this season.

Anyone know who much more Andy Caroll cost than Van Persie?:D

Andy Carroll: £35m
Robin van Persie: ~£3m

Now, van Persie was six or seven years earlier so it's not as simple as saying £32m in the difference. But, taking that into account, it would still be close to £30m in the difference. If he hadn't been injured so much during his time here, van Persie would have been the steal of the century. Imagine if he was as good every year as he has been in 2011!

Blatter · 19-11-2011 03:18PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Oh yeah I've heard him say it a lot etc I just don't really believe him.

It would be very interesting to see how another manager would fare with that squad - how much of it is down to Pep and how much is down to just how ridiculously talented they are?

Sorry lads I know its the wrong thread.

I wonder why he keeps saying it then? I suppose there always seems to be a lot of political tension at Barca.

With regards the player talent vs managerial ability argument, really is hard to say, we'd only ever find out if Pep left.

flahavaj · 19-11-2011 03:20PM

Blatter wrote: »

I wonder why he keeps saying it then? I suppose there always seems to be a lot of political tension at Barca.

Posturing for better terms/transfer funds/freedom to run the footballing affairs of the club maybe?

Pepe LeFrits · 19-11-2011 03:30PM

flahavaj wrote: »

I wonder how all those lads who wanted Wenger gone feel now btw. They will only realise how good he was when he's gone. I have so much time and respect for the man, a great manager and rival over the years.

... now that we're 6th? He made a total and utter hash of the summer.

L'prof · 19-11-2011 03:44PM

enfant terrible wrote: »

No I think Guardiola will definately leave this season.

Anyone know who much more Andy Caroll cost than Van Persie?:D

Costwise: Carroll = 12.7 van Persies
Abilitywise: van Persie = 12.7 Carrolls

L'prof · 19-11-2011 03:49PM

Premier League Record:

P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts  PPG
Wolves                6   6   0   0  15   2  13  18 3.00
Reading               4   4   0   0  11   2   9  12 3.00
Watford               4   4   0   0   9   3   6  12 3.00
Blackpool             2   2   0   0   9   1   8   6 3.00
Barnsley              2   2   0   0   7   0   7   6 3.00
Swansea               1   1   0   0   1   0   1   3 3.00
Ipswich              10   8   2   0  23   4  19  26 2.60
Wigan                12   9   2   1  28  11  17  29 2.42
Fulham               20  15   3   2  42  12  30  48 2.40
Charlton             16  12   2   2  36  12  24  38 2.38
Derby                14  10   3   1  27  11  16  33 2.36
Man City             28  20   5   3  51  18  33  65 2.32
Hull                  4   3   0   1   9   4   5   9 2.25
Birmingham           14   9   4   1  28   8  20  31 2.21
Leicester            16  10   5   1  38  13  25  35 2.19
Portsmouth           14   8   6   0  28   8  20  30 2.14
Stoke                 7   5   0   2  15   8   7  15 2.14
Everton              38  24   9   5  79  32  47  81 2.13
Crystal Palace        8   5   2   1  16   5  11  17 2.13
Nottingham Forest    10   6   3   1  13   7   6  21 2.10
West Brom            11   7   2   2  25  13  12  23 2.09
West Ham             32  19   7   6  48  19  29  64 2.00
Southampton          26  15   7   4  50  24  26  52 2.00
Bolton               25  15   5   5  46  27  19  50 2.00
Oldham                4   2   2   0   4   1   3   8 2.00
Swindon               2   1   1   0   5   1   4   4 2.00
Burnley               2   1   1   0   4   2   2   4 2.00
Middlesbrough        28  16   7   5  62  26  36  55 1.96
Coventry             18  10   5   3  25  13  12  35 1.94
Sunderland           21  11   7   3  35  14  21  40 1.90
Norwich               9   4   4   1  19  10   9  16 1.78
Blackburn            35  18   8   9  63  35  28  62 1.77
Villa                38  18  13   7  61  34  27  67 1.76
Bradford              4   2   1   1   6   3   3   7 1.75
Chelsea              39  18  11  10  58  50   8  65 1.67
Leeds                24  12   4   8  43  25  18  40 1.67
Newcastle            35  16  10   9  50  32  18  58 1.66
MK Dons              16   7   4   5  30  16  14  25 1.56
Sheffield Wednesday  16   7   4   5  21  16   5  25 1.56
Spurs                39  14  17   8  61  46  15  59 1.51
Sheffield United      6   2   3   1   9   4   5   9 1.50
Liverpool            39  11  13  15  41  53 -12  46 1.18
Man United           39  11  11  17  38  57 -19  44 1.13
QPR                   8   1   5   2   7   8  -1   8 1.00

This Season v Previous Seasons:

P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
2011-2012:  12   7   1   4  25  22   3  22
2010-2011:  12   7   2   3  24  11  13  23 ( 4th)
2009-2010:  12   8   1   3  36  15  21  25 ( 3rd)
2008-2009:  12   7   2   3  25  13  12  23 ( 4th)
2007-2008:  12   9   3   0  27  10  17  30 ( 3rd)
2006-2007:  12   6   4   2  20   7  13  22 ( 4th)
2005-2006:  12   7   2   3  19  10   9  23 ( 4th)
2004-2005:  12   8   3   1  32  13  19  27 ( 2nd)
2003-2004:  12   9   3   0  25  10  15  30 ( 1st)
2002-2003:  12   8   2   2  27  13  14  26 ( 2nd)
2001-2002:  12   5   5   2  25  14  11  20 ( 1st)
2000-2001:  12   8   3   1  23  10  13  27 ( 2nd)
1999-2000:  12   8   1   3  20  12   8  25 ( 2nd)
1998-1999:  12   6   5   1  14   5   9  23 ( 2nd)
1997-1998:  12   6   6   0  27  10  17  24 ( 1st)
1996-1997:  12   7   4   1  24  10  14  25 ( 3rd)
1995-1996:  12   7   3   2  16   6  10  24 ( 5th)
1994-1995:  12   5   3   4  17  13   4  18 (12th)
1993-1994:  12   6   4   2  12   6   6  22 ( 4th)
1992-1993:  12   6   2   4  15  12   3  20 (10th)

Rolling Season:

P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
2011-2012:  38  19  10   9  73  54  19  67

Current Run:

P   W   D   L   F   A  GD Pts
2011-2012:   5   5   0   0  15   6   9  15

flahavaj · 19-11-2011 03:51PM

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

... now that we're 6th? He made a total and utter hash of the summer.

Now that they might actually be getting their wish of seeing him leave the club! Could be a case of being careful what you wish for...

19-11-2011 04:00PM

I think we can all agree the nightmare would be if RVP and Le Boss left in the same window.

I am looking forward to the Stojković era if it happens. Wenger has named him as potential successor more than once

Good win today!

Minstrel27 · 19-11-2011 04:01PM

There you go. He would only consider it if he finished below what's expected of him. Wenger is going nowhere next summer.

Quazzie · 19-11-2011 04:33PM

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Imagine if he was as good every year as he has been in 2011!

He'd have been playing for Barca long ago.

wandatowell · 19-11-2011 04:36PM

RVP, what a guy

emergingstar · 19-11-2011 07:33PM

Arseblog posted this stat

After 12 games last season Arsenal had 23 pts. After 12 games this season we have 22 + scored 1 more goal than last but let in 11 more

So we're basically where we were last season

everdead.ie · 19-11-2011 07:36PM

emergingstar wrote: »

Arseblog posted this stat

After 12 games last season Arsenal had 23 pts. After 12 games this season we have 22 + scored 1 more goal than last but let in 11 more

So we're basically where we were last season

I think it's pretty unlikely Arsenal will collapse as badly as they did in the second half of last season so I'd say your better off really than last season.

Galvasean · 19-11-2011 07:57PM

The King of the Universe 15 (13)
Walcott 4 (2)
Arteta 2 (2)
Arshavin 2 (1)
Gervinho 2 (2)
Oxlade-Chamberlain 2 (0)
Ramsey 2 (1)
Santos 2 (1)
Vermaelen 1 (1)
Benayoun 1 (0)
Chamakh 1 (1)
Gibbs 1 (0)
Park 1 (0)
Song 1 (1)

(league goals in brackets)

Galvasean · 19-11-2011 08:00PM

So, who wants to sign Henry for the second half of the season as a backup player / mentor for the young players?

gnfnrhead · 19-11-2011 08:22PM

Galvasean wrote: »

So, who wants to sign Henry for the second half of the season as a backup player / mentor for the young players?

I wouldnt mind it provided he doesnt expect huge wages and being the first name on the team sheet every week. I've seen him a few times in MLS and his pace isnt what it used to be but otherwise he's still pretty damn great.

wandatowell · 19-11-2011 08:34PM

Galvasean wrote: »

So, who wants to sign Henry for the second half of the season

You can never have enough Thierry Henry in your team imo.

Galvasean · 19-11-2011 08:38PM

Just looked, our next 3 fixtures are televised

Hopefully I'll get to see one. Have missed most of this season's matches due to work

gosplan · 19-11-2011 10:04PM

Less slagging of the Gerv.

1: He creates huge amounts of space

2: If he could finish a decent proportion of the chances that come his way, he'd be messi like.

IMO he's been a great addition, electric. Far less skilled than Nasri but so much more effective because he does everything three times as fast.

tony1kenobi · 19-11-2011 10:33PM

gosplan wrote: »

Less slagging of the Gerv.

Far less skilled than Nasri but so much more effective because he does everything three times as fast.

So he'll be off to City next March then?

pudzey101 · 19-11-2011 10:59PM

Galvasean wrote: »

So, who wants to sign Henry for the second half of the season as a backup player / mentor for the young players?

Wenger has ruled out a loan move for him
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3944275/Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-My-squads-too-big-for-Thierry-Henry.html

Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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