How much better off this nation would be if COWEN never entered politics?

Belly_Dancer · 14-11-2011 11:29PM #1

Just watching RTE1 and I cannot help but think how much better off we would be if BIFFO had NEVER entered into a career in politics?

John Doe1 · 14-11-2011 11:31PM

17 % better

partyatmygaff · 14-11-2011 11:31PM

Not that much better off.

He's hardly the sole or even the main reason for any of the trouble the country is now in.

*Cough* Bertie, Bankers, Developers, Flawed society.

Quiet you · 14-11-2011 11:31PM

Ugh........... Bertie was the cause. Cowen just watched. Pay attention.

squod · 14-11-2011 11:31PM

<----This much---->

Dazza · 14-11-2011 11:32PM

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Not that much better off.

He's hardly the sole or even the main reason for any of the trouble the country is now in.

*Cough* Bertie.

Bertie did ONLY great things for this country

Dotrel · 14-11-2011 11:32PM

Bertie caused the mess. Biffo was just thick enough to accept the job after him.

AnonoBoy · 14-11-2011 11:32PM

Don't worry there was a rake of other incompetent morons waiting in the wings to take his place.

galwayrush · 14-11-2011 11:32PM

No difference, have you forgotten Bertie?

AG2R · 14-11-2011 11:33PM

Not very, another wanker would have ****ed it up anyways

squod · 14-11-2011 11:33PM

Just to clarify. Cowen bailed Anglo in a recession, acted against the advice he was given and caused a major economic and social catastrophe. Him. Not Bertie.

Wile E. Coyote · 14-11-2011 11:33PM

Brian Cowen is just the gobsh*te that jumped into the fire when Bertie abandoned ship. We'd still be in the same position.

Andy!! · 14-11-2011 11:34PM

And if Al Gore had become US president... sure it would be a different world altogether. Very little use dredging up the past, just work for the future.

But yeah Cowen is a ****bag and should be in prison really... along with a few others I'd like to see locked up.

newfrontier · 14-11-2011 11:34PM

Clearly alot better off but why did we all stand idly by and do nothing? We need a new sysytem ..the current gov are implementing the same policies..so where is the change we voted for? What will happen next?

Dotrel · 14-11-2011 11:34PM

We have turned a corner.

pragmatic1 · 14-11-2011 11:35PM

Plenty more crooks in FF that would have taken his place and plenty more idiots in the country that would have voted for them.

galwayrush · 14-11-2011 11:36PM

Dotrel wrote: »

We have turned a corner.

Yeah, turned so much it was a full 360 degree turn.

earpiece · 14-11-2011 11:37PM

It was féckin Fianna féckin Fail the féckers.
Arse biscuits in power way tooooo long.

Quiet you · 14-11-2011 11:38PM

squod wrote: »

Just to clarify. Cowen bailed Anglo in a recession, acted against the advice he was given and caused a major economic and social catastrophe. Him. Not Bertie.

He wouldn't have had to even consider doing that if it wasn't for Bertie and that weasel Mc Creevey.

Honestly. It's not a tricky topic. It's pretty black and white. Fianna Fail led by Bertie got us to where we are. The most important point there being "led by Bertie".

uberwolf · 14-11-2011 11:39PM

squod wrote: »

Just to clarify. Cowen bailed Anglo in a recession, acted against the advice he was given and caused a major economic and social catastrophe. Him. Not Bertie.

and bertie told people giving him advice against the party line to commit suicide. yeah yeah.

Chuck Stone · 14-11-2011 11:40PM

Don't look back in anger little one.

El Weirdo · 14-11-2011 11:40PM

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

skelliser · 14-11-2011 11:41PM

well done on beleiving that it was all Cowen's fault.
Seriously! do you have an ounce of intelligence?!

Cause this is exactly what FF have set out to do. Blame it on the fall guy.
And of course the idiots in this country will beleive it and return the parasite that is FF to gov. in the future.

Lets be clear, everyone in that gov. is to blame.

squod · 14-11-2011 11:42PM

Quiet you wrote: »

He wouldn't have had to even consider doing that if it wasn't for Bertie and that weasel Mc Creevey.

Honestly. It's not a tricky topic. It's pretty black and white. Fianna Fail led by Bertie got us to where we are. The most important point there being "led by Bertie".

Disagree entirely.

amacca · 14-11-2011 11:43PM

haughey, mccreevy, bertie, etc etc.....theres a whole hall of fame before you ever get near Cowen..he is not nearly as culpable as his predecessors

why arent they doing a bertie special

amacca · 14-11-2011 11:45PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

or your uncle presuming he is a heterosexual male with no interest in "alternative lifestyles" would be a very upset man

parker kent · 14-11-2011 11:45PM

The idea that one man made all the difference is a bit idiotic.

FetchTheGin · 14-11-2011 11:45PM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Plenty more crooks in FF that would have taken his place and plenty more idiots in the country that would have voted for them.

You only have to look at the presidential election and the amount of votes Gallagher got, I couldn't believe that many idiots could vote for him after all the FF cronyism he was involved in. It's despairing.

amacca · 14-11-2011 11:47PM

squod wrote: »

Disagree entirely.

entirely?......Bertie bears no responsibility?

I have to say I disagree entirely if that is your position.

Swampy · 14-11-2011 11:47PM

And there's me thinking we'd seen the last of the FF threads.

Zzzz.

Crazy Horse 6 · 14-11-2011 11:49PM

Bertie was the problem Cowen and comical Lenny just made it worse. In any other country Ahern would have been shot for crimes against the nation.

How much better off this nation would be if COWEN never entered politics?

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