What ARE you willing to have cut?

John Doe1 · 13-11-2011 09:10PM

Pay for grumpy middle aged office workers

My foreskin

Crann na Beatha · 13-11-2011 09:12PM

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El Guapo! · 13-11-2011 09:17PM

Veles wrote: »

Is that an EU directive about paying out children's allowance to children living in an another EU state if their parent is working here?

Yes.
Earlier this year Joan Burton said she was going to review the situation and speak to the EU about it.
I haven't heard anything else about it since then though.

Edit; Here's a short article about that. http://www.thejournal.ie/should-ireland-pay-child-benefit-for-children-living-abroad-2011-03/

It says Ireland paid €15.4m to children who don't live in this state last year.

Freddie59 · 13-11-2011 09:17PM

Veles wrote: »

Is that an EU directive about paying out children's allowance to children living in an another EU state if their parent is working here?

Another example of the craziness abounding and the madness that is the EU.

Freddie59 · 13-11-2011 09:17PM

Dean09 wrote: »

Yes.
Earlier this year Joan Burton said she was going to review the situation and speak to the EU about it.
I haven't heard anything else about it since then though.

You won't either.

theg81der · 13-11-2011 09:29PM

I would stop paying people to have children, the incentives for people to particularly be single parents is pure nuts!

44leto · 13-11-2011 09:39PM

I would cut across the board by 10% that is everything.

I know that is still not enough, so I would increase duties and lay off 30 thousand public servants.

That is still not enough.............I don't know after that.

Eric Cartman · 13-11-2011 09:43PM

sell off RTE, shut down TG4 , get rid of the army reserve , farm out the HSE's duties to a private company , sack most of the people working for co. councils, get rid of gosafe and all the speed vans , cut off all dole for those whove been on it long term and refuse to look for jobs , no dole if you live with your parents, no dole for immigrants , send all the immigrants on social welfare home, get rid of the PSA , privatize all waste collection services, stop paying farmers grants for no reason. temporarily stop giving money to the arts council and those other un-necissary organisations, abolish the seanad, temporarily cut off all child benefit or any other children based payments for any child born 9 months from now or later , give no more money to any banks, property developers etc...

SeaFields · 13-11-2011 09:46PM

Quangos.

Lots of em.

Crann na Beatha · 13-11-2011 09:47PM

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El Guapo! · 13-11-2011 09:50PM

Veles wrote: »

In that case why cant Ireland pay the Childrens allowance rates applicable to the countries were these children are living? rather than paying out Irish rates?

Because that would make sense.

13-11-2011 09:53PM

Childrens allowance should be looked at without a doubt.

Capt'n Midnight · 13-11-2011 09:56PM

gifted wrote: »

If you join the army at 17 and leave after 21 years you get a pension for life from the age of 38 onwards, crazy that is. Pay them for the amount of years they do

No everyone gets to leave the army

Ronin247 · 13-11-2011 10:15PM

Childrens allowance means tested
No childrens allowance after 4 children.
No automatic single mother accomodation
No extra childrens allowance for twins/multiples after 18 months
No more allowances for 3rd child of "single" parents.
Remove half HSE staff/pencil pushers and replace with doctors and nurses.
Politicians all the cuts mentioned by others.
Prison service cut in half,and Prison to be "prison" not a f*cking holiday camp.
No dole for anyone who has never worked up to the age of 35.
Public service salaries brought in line with European averages.
Public salaries capped at 120,000.~If you deserve more than that go to the private sector and earn it.
All gas or oil in Irish territorial waters taxed at 50% before costs are taken out.

What is the chances of any of that happening........0

Cill Dara Abu · 13-11-2011 10:55PM

Pensioners need to take a huge cut in this budget, they have gotten away without been touched for too long now, let them whinge all they want.

Pension: €220 p/w
Free electricity units
Medical card
Free fuel
Free travel
Free household upgrades.
And lots of other little things like free passports, driving licenses, TV licence etc.

Zebra3 · 13-11-2011 11:09PM

If you can afford to travel, you can afford to pay the full whack for passports like the rest of us.

Bloody scroungers. :mad:

Stinicker · 13-11-2011 11:12PM

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

Pensioners need to take a huge cut in this budget, they have gotten away without been touched for too long now, let them whinge all they want.

Pension: €220 p/w
Free electricity units
Free fuel
Free travel
Free household upgrades.
And lots of other little things like free passports, driving licenses, etc.

They paid taxes all their life, if a young person is having trouble with employment or money there are option when you are old you are vulnerable it is not like you can high tail it out of here to Australia or whatever. Have some bloody respect for the elders, they didn't cause this crisis and I'd rather see the dole cut to €50 a week before seeing old people reduced to the bread line.

Freddie59 · 13-11-2011 11:21PM

Stinicker wrote: »

They paid taxes all their life, if a young person is having trouble with employment or money there are option when you are old you are vulnerable it is not like you can high tail it out of here to Australia or whatever. Have some bloody respect for the elders, they didn't cause this crisis and I'd rather see the dole cut to €50 a week before seeing old people reduced to the bread line.

In fairness when you read the above list you really begin to see how well pensioners are looked after in this country. But EVERYONE has to share the cuts.

Stinicker · 13-11-2011 11:25PM

Freddie59 wrote: »

In fairness when you read the above list you really begin to see how well pensioners are looked after in this country. But EVERYONE has to share the cuts.

I don't agree and besides Cill Dara was calling for a huge cut to Pensioners. I beleive in targeting those who caused the mess and Developers and Banks should be hit hardest as should people connected to Fianna Fail.

Helix · 13-11-2011 11:28PM

cut rte

get rid of the whole thing. then people have the choice to piggy back on the uk channels or pay for sky/cable

Freddie59 · 13-11-2011 11:29PM

Stinicker wrote: »

I don't agree and besides Cill Dara was calling for a huge cut to Pensioners. I beleive in targeting those who caused the mess and Developers and Banks should be hit hardest as should people connected to Fianna Fail.

The problem is that there is only a certain amount of money. The pensioners are a part of the reason we, as a country, are borrowing €400m a week. Who would these "people connected to Fianna Fail" be?

Helix · 13-11-2011 11:31PM

pensioners should be means tested. plenty of them dont need any of the free crap theyre getting

theg81der · 13-11-2011 11:32PM

Well I think the state is obliged to look after the older women who they didn`t allow to work or get educated just a personal opinion since most female pensioners seem to have been housewives.

Cill Dara Abu · 13-11-2011 11:33PM

theg81der wrote: »

Well I think the state is obliged to look after the older women who they didn`t allow to work or get educated just a personal opinion since most female pensioners seem to have been housewives.

And never paid a penny in tax

jam_mac_jam · 13-11-2011 11:35PM

Childrens allowance should be scrapped and means testing for old age pensions. I dont care if you have paid PRSI if you have a load of money you can pay for yourself.

jam_mac_jam · 13-11-2011 11:36PM

theg81der wrote: »

Well I think the state is obliged to look after the older women who they didn`t allow to work or get educated just a personal opinion since most female pensioners seem to have been housewives.

Not if they have money they shouldnt. Why should I be paying for somebody with the means because they didnt work, fair enough if they dont have money now but if they do then they shouldnt be getting money just for being old.

theg81der · 13-11-2011 11:41PM

Sorry yea should have said they should be means tested of course! I see what your saying about them not paying tax - but my point is the state didn`t give them the option at the time.

Freddie59 · 13-11-2011 11:43PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Childrens allowance should be scrapped and means testing for old age pensions. I dont care if you have paid PRSI if you have a load of money you can pay for yourself.

But you cannot expect to push that through while there is widespread conniving and deceit going on within Government. And while you have several former Taoisigh in receipt of several pensions before pensionable age. It would be grossly unfair.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060899/As-Ireland-braces-budget-cuts-politicians-cut-secret-deal-3million-euro-year-pay-rise.html

LH Pathe · 13-11-2011 11:45PM

Nasty hairs that just go haywire

jam_mac_jam · 13-11-2011 11:46PM

theg81der wrote: »

Sorry yea should have said they should be means tested of course! I see what your saying about them not paying tax - but my point is the state didn`t give them the option at the time.

ah ok, I agree with you so.

What ARE you willing to have cut?

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