Low fat food is a scam

Feisar · 09-11-2011 09:19AM

bluewolf wrote: »

of course it's a scam, they're pumped with sugar

Beat me to it!

Scanlas The 2nd · 09-11-2011 09:19AM

Blatter wrote: »

The 'low fat' theory is the biggest (and most successful) diet scam in history.

It's said to think that our national ditery guidelines are based on it.

The food pyramid has to be the biggest scam ever . Wholegrains are not healthy, they cause heart disease, diabetes, autoimmune disease as well as cancer.

Spunge · 09-11-2011 09:27AM

silverharp wrote: »

it is funny/sad to see all the big birds at work with their low fat crackers and the rest. The low carb appraoch is the only way to treat obesity. The low fat approach is just there to make sugar companies rich.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIkPx9dRaA

09-11-2011 09:36AM

eating fat makes you fat just like eating french fries makes you french

it has L casei fakelatinitass so it must be true

bnt · 09-11-2011 09:37AM

The US Department of Agriculture (USDA) realised their food pyramid was flawed, and have been making changes to it. This year they started talking about a Plate instead of a Pyramid - see here for details.

The thing about fat is: that's where the flavour is - literally. Take out the natural fat, you have to try and replace the flavour, and that explains why low fat foods can taste worse. Your body creates fat from carbohydrates, so this idea that low fat food must mean a low fat body is just plain wrong. And that's before you ask questions like "what's the fat being replaced with?", which is when you read about the Olestra controversies.

foxyboxer · 09-11-2011 09:44AM

It's like the vilification of saturated fat by the 'Health' industry.

It's a naturally occuring fat and is needed by the body in certain quantities.
What your body doesn't need is low fat yoghurts where the ingredients list is akin to that of a chemistry experiment with e numbers, glucose fructose syrup etc.

jester77 · 09-11-2011 10:12AM

Low-fat is basically aimed at gullible women who are too lazy to understand nutrition or do some exercise. They just want to have their cake and eat it... literally but without the taste. I don't get this, low-fat products can cost more and they taste crap.

Either enjoy what you are eating and do some exercise or just leave it out of your trolley. Low-fat products are not going to stop you from getting fat.

Spunge · 09-11-2011 10:23AM

They do have less calories though.

aquaman · 09-11-2011 10:29AM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The food pyramid has to be the biggest scam ever . Wholegrains are not healthy, they cause heart disease, diabetes, autoimmune disease as well as cancer.

Can you expand on this a bit please? Is it that (like anything) too much is bad for you? Or that wholegrains are less healthy than the splitgrain (white) alternative?

Catxscotch · 09-11-2011 10:43AM

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

FFS. NOBODY has pointed out the obvious mistake yet.

Of course they have, but your brilliant topic has side tracked even the most vicious of AH grammer vultures

kylith · 09-11-2011 11:23AM

Fat is the vehicle by which flavour travels. My nanny always said that you should eat some fat to grease your joints, and she certainly wasn't obese, and never suffered too much from arthritis.

K-9 wrote: »

I'd take butter over Flora or any of that nonsense any day.

People who cook with Flora or similar should be flogged.

TheyKnowMyIP · 09-11-2011 11:31AM

The l casi i immunatas or whatever the fark they call it isn't even published in clinical trials by the government in the USA, despite numerous claims to the contrary.

"Buy actifeed, it cures the clap":)

*warning - may result in any of the following: death, convulsions. compulsion to kill, the clap, night paralysis, the fear, small children, reduced bank balance, cell mutation, plants eating small animals and possibly anything else we haven't anticipated yet:rolleyes:

Scanlas The 2nd · 09-11-2011 11:50AM

aquaman wrote: »

Can you expand on this a bit please? Is it that (like anything) too much is bad for you? Or that wholegrains are less healthy than the splitgrain (white) alternative?

Grains of any kind are bad for you. I've stopped eating grains and now fry my food in saturated fat (coconut oil) and eat loads of butter and over 20 eggs a week. My clothes are now hanging off me I've lost so much weight, and most importantly, I feel much better, lots of energy and I don't get tired/sleep at 3 o'clock.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 09-11-2011 11:53AM

Wertz wrote: »

AFAIR Danone or one of the other manafacturers of cultured dairy drinks were forced to change the wording of their ads to allow for a lack of proper evidence to back up their bold claims...I don't recall the precise deatsil but wording was changed form "can" to "could" or "will" to "may"...they can't be definitive about something which hasn't been proven beyond a doubt.
Research can also be carried out to back up certain wordings for ads that can send an ambiguous messages to viewers of those ads...and all they have to do is flash up some wording on screen to cover any dsicrepancy.
"May lower cholesterol as part of a calorie controlled diet" for instance...

That's what I mean - someone does actually check these claims out and pull the company up on them if they're wrong or misleading. Beyond that, I think a certain amount of responsbility (especially where research is concerned) lies with the consumer.

Spunge · 09-11-2011 11:58AM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Grains of any kind are bad for you. I've stopped eating grains and now fry my food in saturated fat (coconut oil) and eat loads of butter and over 20 eggs a week. My clothes are now hanging off me I've lost so much weight, and most importantly, I feel much better, lots of energy and I don't get tired/sleep at 3 o'clock.

Are you in ketosis ?

Snakeblood · 09-11-2011 12:02PM

kylith wrote: »

Fat is the vehicle by which flavour travels. My nanny always said that you should eat some fat to grease your joints, and she certainly wasn't obese, and never suffered too much from arthritis.

But she was a lobbyist for Big Fat.

DjFlin · 09-11-2011 12:20PM

The way I see it, if someone can produce a product that tastes just like another one, but isn't as unhealthy. Its worth paying the same price for.

whirlpool · 09-11-2011 12:43PM

*Thread moved to the nutrition forum.

Oh wait, I'm not a mod.

But if I was!! *shakes fist :mad: :cool:

whirlpool · 09-11-2011 12:44PM

DjFlin wrote: »

The way I see it, if someone can produce a product that tastes just like another one, but isn't as unhealthy. Its worth paying the same price for.

The problem arises when a person misunderstands what is healthy and what isn't. e.g. "fat is unhealthy."

"Low fat" products are more unhealthy than natural products.

Blatter · 09-11-2011 12:49PM

whirlpool wrote: »

*Thread moved to the nutrition forum.

Oh wait, I'm not a mod.

But if I was!! *shakes fist :mad: :cool:

It's been done to death tbere, and the conclusion is always low fat = bullish*t.

No harm in educating a few in AH that wouldn't necessarily visit the nutrition and diet forum.

Scanlas The 2nd · 09-11-2011 12:49PM

Spunge wrote: »

Are you in ketosis ?

I still eat carbs in the form of sweet potatoes and occasionally potatoes so probably not, I lift weights and I'm putting on muscle while losing fat.

aquaman · 09-11-2011 04:11PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Grains of any kind are bad for you. I've stopped eating grains and now fry my food in saturated fat (coconut oil) and eat loads of butter and over 20 eggs a week. My clothes are now hanging off me I've lost so much weight, and most importantly, I feel much better, lots of energy and I don't get tired/sleep at 3 o'clock.

Bad for you how?

I'm curious as I've not heard this arguement before.
I'm a believer that everything in moderation is pretty ok. And presumed that due to fibre and concentrated energy, wholegrains (porridge, brown rice etc) are pretty good foods to be eating.. Again in moderation.
Have not heard that they are bad food to be eating before...?

Scanlas The 2nd · 09-11-2011 04:57PM

aquaman wrote: »

Bad for you how?

I'm curious as I've not heard this arguement before.
I'm a believer that everything in moderation is pretty ok. And presumed that due to fibre and concentrated energy, wholegrains (porridge, brown rice etc) are pretty good foods to be eating.. Again in moderation.
Have not heard that they are bad food to be eating before...?

Cause autoimmune disease, cancer, diebetes, heart disease, make you fat, tired/less energy, lower libido.

Go 30 days only eating only real non processed food such as meat, fish, eggs, veg, fruit and nuts and see how you feel. You'll be a brand new person.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/

Dudess · 09-11-2011 06:14PM

I wouldn't agree with the Atkins approach (as in, no carbs AT ALL - even those found in fruit and veg; you need fibre, and fuel for energy) but keeping them to a minimum is indeed healthier. Protein and fats are miles more important.

DjFlin wrote: »

The way I see it, if someone can produce a product that tastes just like another one, but isn't as unhealthy. Its worth paying the same price for.

Low-fat products are total muck. Eat them and you'll just feel really hungry shortly afterwards, and have a blood sugar crash if you're built that way.
Butter instead of low-fat spreads ftw. As long as big chunks of it aren't being eaten.

I generally don't buy conspiracy theories - but the dieting industry needs people to fail, otherwise it wouldn't exist.

aquaman · 09-11-2011 06:28PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Cause autoimmune disease, cancer, diebetes, heart disease, make you fat, tired/less energy, lower libido.

Go 30 days only eating only real non processed food such as meat, fish, eggs, veg, fruit and nuts and see how you feel. You'll be a brand new person.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/

OK that's interesting. Thanks.
Link read and digested (pardon the pun). Until I do some more reading on the subject I'm going to take a sceptical view but will consider the contents.

Dudess · 09-11-2011 06:31PM

On the carbs thing again - I could be wrong but I get the impression some people break them down better than others. I have a body type to which carbs are definitely not suited - e.g. I know many people swear by porridge oats, but I'd actually feel better fed after one egg, and wouldn't have the massive hunger crash I'd experience a few hours after a bowl of porridge.

Paparazzo · 09-11-2011 06:32PM

Domo230 wrote: »

Personally I think food is a scam.

I mean have any of you actually tried to not eat food. We all believe the lies spread by the food industry that not eating will result in death.

Why are we content as a society to spend money on this marketing masquerading as Science? Is this some mass conspiracy to lower the average spending and brain power of the man on the street? One word: self preservation.

Yeah, i'm with you. It's the food companies or "big phood" that have us convinced we need it :mad:

PrincessLola · 09-11-2011 07:12PM

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

Grains of any kind are bad for you. I've stopped eating grains and now fry my food in saturated fat (coconut oil) and eat loads of butter and over 20 eggs a week. My clothes are now hanging off me I've lost so much weight, and most importantly, I feel much better, lots of energy and I don't get tired/sleep at 3 o'clock.

You lost weight because you're consuming less calories then you're burning. End of.

I get that people are mad about the 'fat is EVIL!' myth, but is reacting by claiming 'carbs are EVIL!' really the answer? Some people can keep weight off while consuming grains as part of their diet.
Also, No-carb is perfectly fine if thats what to want to do, but if anyone mentions 'paleo' or 'caveman' I will assume you are an idiot.

mickrock · 09-11-2011 11:09PM

Dudess wrote: »

I wouldn't agree with the Atkins approach (as in, no carbs AT ALL - even those found in fruit and veg; you need fibre, and fuel for energy) but keeping them to a minimum is indeed healthier.

Atkins is low carbs, not no carbs.

YFlyer · 09-11-2011 11:39PM

eightyfish wrote: »

Organic food is a scam.

How so?

Low fat food is a scam

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