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Low fat food is a scam

  • 09-11-2011 02:54AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Now I am no genius or anything, but the concept of paying the same amount for less never quite crossed my mind as a good idea. Infact, any time I see "low fat" or "0% that" one word shines instantly in my mind like a blinding spotlight: Scam.

    Why are we content as a society to spend money on this marketing masquerading as Science? Is this some mass conspiracy to lower the average spending and brain power of the man on the street? One word: self preservation.

    Low fat me hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Got a problem fatty??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    FFS. NOBODY has pointed out the obvious mistake yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Now I am no genius or anything, but the concept of paying the same amount for less never quite crossed my mind as a good idea. Infact, any time I see "low fat" or "0% that" one word shines instantly in my mind like a blinding spotlight: Scam.

    Why are we content as a society to spend money on this marketing masquerading as Science? Is this some mass conspiracy to lower the average spending and brain power of the man on the street? One word: self preservation.

    Low fat me hole.

    At this risk of taking you too seriously, it has to be able to prove it's claims or the compamy will be done for fraudulant advertising. You believeing it's bull**** is more likely to be a scam.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    But....but....the cholsterol...and and the calories....and does my bum look big in this?
    I'm on a diet btw...can you tell? God I feel so guilty that I don't look like those people in the magazines...

    Let me see....paying more for less calories...that's a great idea. Skimmed milk? Yeah I'll just take the full fat and piss it out with tap water thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    At this risk of taking you too seriously, it has to be able to prove it's claims or the compamy will be done for fraudulant advertising. You believeing it's bull**** is more likely to be a scam.

    Is that why they don't supply citations in the adverts? Oh yeah, they are banking average jane or joe isn't likely to debunk their bull****. Look at that Danone ****e for instance. L casy I immunitas this and healthy tummy that. This is just marketing disguised as legitimate science.

    If something isn't cited, never trust that claim. This is common knowledge, no?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭mickrock


    It is a scam, not just monetarily but health-wise too.

    Fat is an essential part of a healthy diet. Also it's not eating too much fat that makes people fat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    mickrock wrote: »
    Also it's not eating too much fat that makes people fat.

    I think it's stupidity. Never trust any claim made on the basis of no evidence. If only everybody followed this simple piece of advice:o The ethical standards in this arena are quite low, assuming your product does not kill somebody or cause em to grow horns or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Is that why they don't supply citations in the adverts? Oh yeah, they are banking average jane or joe isn't likely to debunk their bull****. Look at that Danone ****e for instance. L casy I immunitas this and healthy tummy that. This is just marketing disguised as legitimate science.

    If something isn't cited, never trust that claim. This is common knowledge, no?

    No, it's your personal opinion. Just because the ad does not carry the citation does not mean the citation doesn't exist.

    http://www.research.danone.com/ - perhaps you could point me to the specific point of their research that you disagree with it?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    At this risk of taking you too seriously, it has to be able to prove it's claims or the compamy will be done for fraudulant advertising. You believeing it's bull**** is more likely to be a scam.

    Sure, no marketing junk has ever resulted in a court case. Not once in the history of the human race. Blindly accepting these "claims" on the basis of no evidence is akin to a belief system. I for one won't believe this crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    The 'low fat' theory is the biggest (and most successful) diet scam in history.

    It's said to think that our national ditery guidelines are based on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Hasmunch


    Never trust any claim made on the basis of no evidence

    But it says now with added fecial bacterium

    It must be great so.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    No, it's your personal opinion. Just because the ad does not carry the citation does not mean the citation doesn't exist.

    http://www.research.danone.com/ - perhaps you could point me to the specific point of their research that you disagree with it?

    Seems legitimate to me:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Sure, no marketing junk has ever resulted in a court case. Not once in the history of the human race. Blindly accepting these "claims" on the basis of no evidence is akin to a belief system. I for one won't believe this crap.

    Do you not think that, if they were full of ****, that it would?

    You're trolling. That or email Danone for a copy of their scientific research, read it (!), and then report back in the morning. I'm going to bed.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Most of the "research" facts they list on that site are basically just a bunch of public domain facts mixed together with some cool futuristic sounding terms to get you to buy their product. Isn't that the idea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Hasmunch wrote: »
    But it says now with added fecial bacterium

    It must be great so.....

    Ah, now there is the question that the OP should be asking: just how nessecary is it, not how real is it.

    It's case of, we have this, we have the scientific proof, now how can me market it so hat people really think they need it? Not we'll make something up and wing it.


    Ok, NOW I'm goin to bed.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    It's case of, we have this, we have the scientific proof, now how can me market it so hat people really think they need it? Not we'll make something up and wing it..

    Point to it. Just because they pass it off as legitimate science, does not make it so. That is what I would refer to as "cargo cult science". The truth will always ferret it's way out eventually. If it's built on a shaky foundation from the start, what else can you expect?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    mickrock wrote: »
    Also it's not eating too much fat that makes people fat.

    Ive just seen a shooting star, either that or it was someones head exploding in a far away galaxy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    No, it's your personal opinion. Just because the ad does not carry the citation does not mean the citation doesn't exist.

    http://www.research.danone.com/ - perhaps you could point me to the specific point of their research that you disagree with it?

    AFAIR Danone or one of the other manafacturers of cultured dairy drinks were forced to change the wording of their ads to allow for a lack of proper evidence to back up their bold claims...I don't recall the precise deatsil but wording was changed form "can" to "could" or "will" to "may"...they can't be definitive about something which hasn't been proven beyond a doubt.
    Research can also be carried out to back up certain wordings for ads that can send an ambiguous messages to viewers of those ads...and all they have to do is flash up some wording on screen to cover any dsicrepancy.
    "May lower cholesterol as part of a calorie controlled diet" for instance...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Wertz wrote: »
    AFAIR Danone or one of the other manafacturers of cultured dairy drinks were forced to change the wording of their ads to allow for a lack of proper evidence to back up their bold claims...I don't recall the precise deatsil but wording was changed form "can" to "could" or "will" to "may"...they can't be definitive about something which hasn't been proven beyond a doubt.
    Research can also be carried out to back up certain wordings for ads that can send an ambiguous messages to viewers of those ads...and all they have to do is flash up some wording on screen to cover any dsicrepancy.
    "May lower cholesterol as part of a calorie controlled diet" for instance...

    and its in a half translucent tiny white text, cnuts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    low fat foods tend to have more sugar/carbs than their full fat equivalent. a check on the labels of the two prodects will confirm this. take out the fat and you need sugar to make up for flavour.

    eating too much fat is hard. you will soon get full. fat does not make you fat.....surprisingly.

    now sugar and carbs....being instantly used for energy ...means we can store fat until we run out of a source of sugar and carbs.

    eat the sugary sweet harvest of autumn....store fat...get through winter on the stored fat....

    the problem today is that the corner shop doesnt close for the winter.

    fat good. no make u fat.sugar and fat..tasty...fat stored because sugar realeases enrgy quicker...and body saves fat in the bank. i see lots of people who have been earning compound interest for years.

    them have penguins and low fat spreads piled high in shopping trolley.

    them block up ailses. and toilet pot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Low fat me hole.


    'Low Fat' foods are just a marketing tool.
    Look at Weight Watchers. They cost more than the actual 'more fat/unhealthy' equivalent food and Weight Watchers is a multi-million revenue food product.

    Its a great business model. They bring it to great lengths too. They even have weight watchers cake. ... thats right cake!
    All they are selling is that "this cake is not as bad as others, there for more good for you" ... Its a brilliant con :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Basically, people think fat makes you fat. Make something low fat (take out fat, replace with salt/sugar), people buy it thinking its healthy.

    I wish there were more "low sugar" foods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    The real scam is the fact that fat does not make you fat.

    And most foods labelled "low fat" are instead filled with the ingredients that DO make you fat.

    This is not up for discussion or interpretation - it is fact.

    Food companies play off the general public's ignorance of this fact.

    And that's the way the cookie crumbles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,304 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    I'd take butter over Flora or any of that nonsense any day.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭whirlpool


    It's also worth noting that the incidence of cholesterol and heart problems in the USA skyrocketed after the introduction of the food pyramid, and have been on the increase ever since.

    People are surviving longer these days, due to medication (pharmaceutical industry WIN), but are unhealthier than ever and need the medication in the first place due to bad diet (food company WIN.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Spunge wrote: »

    I wish there were more "low sugar" foods.

    Just eat fresh whole foods rather than 'processed'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭eightyfish


    Organic food is a scam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    it is funny/sad to see all the big birds at work with their low fat crackers and the rest. The low carb appraoch is the only way to treat obesity. The low fat approach is just there to make sugar companies rich.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Daniel Wrong U-boat


    of course it's a scam, they're pumped with sugar


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,015 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I don't know if its been said but low or zero fat foods are often loaded with sugar to make them palatable. So the calories are still there.

    There's nothing wrong with fat, one third of a persons diet should be fat. Which in turn should be broken up equally between mono, poly and saturated fats.

    Its hydrogenated fats that are bad, there the unnatural ones.

    And FYI the fat in grass fed beef is good for you. Its cattle raised on grain that have a skewed omega profile. It's also the grain that gives beef the much desired marbling but its not a sign of healthy meat.

    First they came for the socialists...



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