Carlos The Jackal goes on trial

Temaz · 07-11-2011 03:06PM #1

The 3 part movie on him is well worth viewing!

http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;0;-1;-1;-1&sku=85556

The 62-year-old Venezuelan, whose real name is Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, went before a special Paris court on terrorism charges.

He is accused of instigating four attacks in 1982 and 1983 that killed 11 people and injured more than 140 others.

Wearing a blue jacket, greying beard and wavy hair brushed back, Ramirez raised a fist in defiance, wove in anti-Zionist rhetoric into his diatribes and smiled back to someone in the tightly controlled audience in the chamber.

"He's in a fighting mood as always," Isabelle Coutant-Peyre, Ramirez's lawyer and partner, told reporters outside the courtroom before the trial began. She said there was "no reason" for the trial nearly 30 years after the events, and accused French prosecutors of putting him on trial for "propaganda or some other interests rather than the ones of justice."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8874247/Carlos-the-Jackal-tells-court-in-Paris-Im-a-professional-revolutionary.html

Cormic · 07-11-2011 03:10PM

I thought Jason Bourne killed him.

foxyboxer · 07-11-2011 03:10PM

The Appalachian one? That's some going at his age!

The King of Moo · 07-11-2011 03:10PM

Carlos: "Yep, jes gonna mosey on down the trail!"

But seriously, I keep meaning to watch that film.

I wonder what kind of sentence he'll get?

AnonoBoy · 07-11-2011 03:14PM

It was Bruce Willis all the time was it not?

Biggins · 07-11-2011 03:16PM

Studied the man for decades. The list of stuff he's responsible for is unreal.
A number of films have been made about his long career in terrorism.

Read the following book on him: http://www.amazon.com/Tracking-Jackal-Search-Carlos-Worlds/dp/0679425594
Well recommended.

Kintarō Hattori · 07-11-2011 03:19PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

It was Bruce Willis all the time was it not?

No it was Edward Fox.

ejmaztec · 07-11-2011 03:23PM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

No it was Edward Fox.

Didn't he play the part of "The Jackal"?

ArmaniJeanss · 07-11-2011 03:27PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

I wonder what kind of sentence he'll get?

Maybe he'll get "You have been found Not Guilty by the jury, Mr Illyich Sanchez, and are free to leave the court without a stain upon your character".

Kintarō Hattori · 07-11-2011 03:28PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

Didn't he play the part of "The Jackal"?

He did.

Dotrel · 07-11-2011 03:34PM

Cormic wrote: »

I thought Jason Bourne killed him.

Bourne's record keeping is sketchy at best.

Biggins · 07-11-2011 03:38PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Maybe he'll get "You have been found Not Guilty by the jury, Mr Illyich Sanchez, and are free to leave the court without a stain upon your character".

He won't be free to leave anywhere. He's already in prison for on two life sentences for previous terrorist actions.
Add to that, other countries want to get him into their courts officially.
(I say "officially" because he could possible bring down a government or two with the secrets he holds of whom he has worked for previously unofficially)

stovelid · 07-11-2011 03:40PM

He still looks cool enough for his age. He needs to get the old fly shades on again though.

Got to feel for him as well: unemployed for years and then getting busted just as the global terrorism market was on the upturn again.

pickarooney · 07-11-2011 03:42PM

I once asked a group of French colleagues about Carlos the Jackal.
"Who??"
"You know that bomber guy who shot two secret agents. Really famous, looks like Roy Orbison?"
"Ah him, of course."
"You don't call him Carlos the Jackal?"
"Euh, no, we call him called Carlos the Terrorist"

AnonoBoy · 07-11-2011 03:48PM

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

No it was Edward Fox.

Disguised as Bruce Willis?

ArmaniJeanss · 07-11-2011 03:48PM

Biggins wrote: »

He won't be free to leave anywhere. He's already in prison for on two life sentences for previous terrorist actions.
Add to that, other countries want to get him into their courts officially.
(I say "officially" because he could possible bring down a government or two with the secrets he holds of whom he has worked for previously unofficially)

When he gets found not guilty on this, it'll call in question the earlier convictions. The international warrants will fall apart on the same basis.

He will then travel to America to sue the late Robert Ludlums estate for damages about how ridiculously uncool he was made look in the third book.

Then onwards to South America and the revolution will resume.

Biggins · 07-11-2011 04:00PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

When he gets found not guilty on this, it'll call in question the earlier convictions. The international warrants will fall apart on the same basis.

He will then travel to America to sue the late Robert Ludlums estate for damages about how ridiculously uncool he was made look in the third book.

Then onwards to South America and the revolution will resume.

Even if he walked free from precious convictions, there is a number of outstanding warrants on his head and extradition demands.

Mike 1972 · 07-11-2011 04:35PM

The guy was arrested in 1994 and theyre only bringing him to trial now

Wouldnt it be right gas if he turns out to be innocent :eek:

ejmaztec · 07-11-2011 04:37PM

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

When he gets found not guilty on this, it'll call in question the earlier convictions. The international warrants will fall apart on the same basis.

He will then travel to America to sue the late Robert Ludlums estate for damages about how ridiculously uncool he was made look in the third book.

Then onwards to South America and the revolution will resume.

He can come here under the alias Carlos The Jackeen. He can do a few useful jobs, and for a change not many people will complain about an immigrant coming here to work.

Dudess · 07-11-2011 04:40PM

Trial day of the jackal.

ballsymchugh · 07-11-2011 04:44PM

Cormic wrote: »

I thought Jason Bourne killed him.

nah he didn't kill him. it was the russians who were able to close off that tunnel with thick glass walls at either end, and then they filled it with water.
bourne should've killed him in new york at the end of bourne identity though.

ArmaniJeanss · 07-11-2011 04:52PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

The guy was arrested in 1994 and theyre only bringing him to trial now

This isn't his first trial - he was found guilty in 1998 of a mid 1970s Paris murder of two policemen and an informant.

ejmaztec · 07-11-2011 04:57PM

I hope someone busts him out of the courtroom so's he can make another movie.

bonzodog2 · 07-11-2011 05:11PM

Anyone else notice a resemblance between Carlos (pic link) and Kevin Mitnick (mugshot when on the run) ?

ejmaztec · 07-11-2011 05:26PM

bonzodog2 wrote: »

Anyone else notice a resemblance between Carlos (pic link) and Kevin Mitnick (mugshot when on the run) ?

The French definitely grabbed the wrong guy. They're feckin useless and should stick to eating cheese and running away.

07-11-2011 05:27PM

I'd hate to be the person defending him.

adomino · 07-11-2011 05:29PM

yea theres so many jackals, movies and stuff, very confusing

07-11-2011 05:34PM

I'd love to know what he thought of the movie staring Bruce Willis, where he dies at the end. Must be kinda strange to watch yourself being killed in a movie.

Dudess · 07-11-2011 06:23PM

Richard Gere was some form of jackal type entity too I'm sure.

Einhard · 07-11-2011 06:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd hate to be the person defending him.

Especially considering he's boning his lawyer! You'd have to change your nick to sorearsebogman! :pac:

ejmaztec · 07-11-2011 06:29PM

Dudess wrote: »

Richard Gere was some form of jackal type entity too I'm sure.

Carlos The Gigolo?

Carlos The Jackal goes on trial

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