Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

04-11-2011 11:12AM

I don't think it's a case of one better than the other but more of a case of not playing 2 CB's who are very similar (Kos & Verm).
I think Per & Verm is the better choice for having the best of both types.
Per in his first season will make a few howlers as did Koscielny

Pepe LeFrits · 04-11-2011 11:16AM

Per has been a steady presence but Kos has been pretty exceptional lately. I don't think it'll really be an issue though with Sagna being out, Kos will move to right back.

kronsington · 04-11-2011 11:21AM

Per has a commanding presence about him but he still seems a bit flaky at times. He has a lot of experience but he we know he isnt the best technically. for the moment i think he'll stick with verm and per, maybe kos could be moved to right back if needed, although jenkinson has done quite well recently.

important game this weekend. even though we're on a good run, it's by no means a formaility. i still don't think arsenal are shoe ins to win any game as of yet. rvp is in the form of his life but we are WAY too reliant on him, hopefully another quality striker will be brought in. i really wish we'd held on to eduardo. let's not forget wba beat us at home last season. that being said i think our good form will continue and ill go with a 3-1 win.

gosplan · 04-11-2011 11:49AM

Quazzie wrote: »

I don't see any major reason to drop Per tbh. Kos has done well but I think Per has been the better defender.

I think it's more about balance. Verm and Per are quite similar. Kos will attack the ball a bit more.

Also Per's been OK but he was at fault for Terry's goal and could have done a lot better for Lampard's.

Here's Kos for the Chelsea game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IWDZQnzrok

racso1975 · 04-11-2011 11:49AM

Lads just a quick ff question if you dont mind. Will arteta play this weekend and would ye drop kos for vermalen?

04-11-2011 12:01PM

Of course Arteta will play, aside from injury, i don't think Wenger could ever drop him.
He does a quiet but VERY important job IMO.
Worth every penny for me.

Verm & Per aren't similar, Verm attacks the ball as much as if not more than Kos, so that could cause problems if both are willing to attack the ball (gaping holes)

Brendan97 · 04-11-2011 12:45PM

No offence intended to Per but he has the agility of a beached whale
you can throw a half-arsed dummy and he falls over.

Noo · 04-11-2011 12:51PM

racso1975 wrote: »

Lads just a quick ff question if you dont mind. Will arteta play this weekend and would ye drop kos for vermalen?

What rvp11 said for arteta.
As for verm, he is arsenals first choice cb when fully fit, kos and per would have to be some sort of impenetrable super defense for one of them not to lose their place to him (i was thinking to myself a while ago that if the two of them are good will verm get back in that easy, clearly that was stupid Thinking) but which one is up to Wenger. Personally i want to see verm and kos give it a go but yes i would drop kos for verm if it meant verm was in the team, even if alongside per.

emergingstar · 04-11-2011 01:28PM

Few papers reporting we have a deal just finalised for Esteban granero, and we're interested in podolski

Bit early too be starting transfer talk I think

greendom · 04-11-2011 03:00PM

Quazzie wrote: »

I don't see any major reason to drop Per tbh. Kos has done well but I think Per has been the better defender.

I think that needs reversing. Per is improving but Kos is the better defender.

tayto lover · 04-11-2011 06:35PM

greendom wrote: »

I think that needs reversing. Per is improving but Kos is the better defender.

Agree and Per rarely gives the ball away. He is a very good passer.

Noo · 04-11-2011 06:55PM

I think Per has ball magnets in his feet (that sounds so wrong). Rather than tackling he seems to just be in the right place at the right time (most of the time), he stands there and the ball just magically appears at his feet.

wandatowell · 04-11-2011 07:01PM

Galvasean wrote: »

I liked Andy Linighan. Stuck behind Adams, Bouls and Keown... poor dude.

Listening to an Arsenal podcast the other week and the lads on it were saying Andy is a plumber nowadays. Aparantely the slogan on his van says "Andy Linighan.......average footballer, world class plumber"

Ardennes1944 · 04-11-2011 07:09PM

wandatowell wrote: »

Listening to an Arsenal podcast the other week and the lads on it were saying Andy is a plumber nowadays. Aparantely the slogan on his van says "Andy Linighan.......average footballer, world class plumber"

Thats lousy!

pudzey101 · 04-11-2011 08:39PM

Hey everyone!

1st time poster here

Just Saw RVP picked up player of the month

wasnt a surprise to me though

easily the best player this season in the league

Link

http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150101

Ardennes1944 · 04-11-2011 08:56PM

noooooot pudzey and his smilies!! stay in your crech youngfella

pudzey101 · 04-11-2011 09:42PM

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

noooooot pudzey and his smilies!! stay in your crech youngfella

haha hi mate

probably surprised to hear i like arsenal more than cars

So will we beat WBA tomorrow !

Noo · 04-11-2011 10:10PM

Holy crap that's a lot of smileys!

Welcome

pudzey101 · 04-11-2011 10:46PM

Thanks ! i'll try stop them..but making no promises

haha

So hear back on topic.. from what i heard today.. Lukas Podolski ,Esteban Granero, Eden Hazard, Mario Götze are all on our radar

Who would u most like to see at arsenal? Think there all quality players but cant see Wenger going crazy spending money to be honest

tsoparno · 04-11-2011 10:52PM

@ gosplan

that vid really shows how much kos has come on, heard everyone say how good he was against chelski but i was to nervous during the game to concentrate and study it properly.

Noo · 05-11-2011 02:33AM

pudzey101 wrote: »

Thanks ! i'll try stop them..but making no promises haha

So hear back on topic.. from what i heard today.. Lukas Podolski ,Esteban Granero, Eden Hazard, Mario Götze are all on our radar

Who would u most like to see at arsenal? Think there all quality players but cant see Wenger going crazy spending money to be honest

I don't think he'll buy. He bought park as gervinhos replacement in January for African cup, wilshere will be nearly back at that stage, and if they are all fit we'll have 3 CBs. There's no way i can see him justifying a big name buy in January.

Frisbee · 05-11-2011 05:53AM

Vermaelen and Koscielny are our best pairing imo. Mertesacker will be really benificial against hoof ball merchants but for bigger games, and especially in Europe, Verm and Kosc should be first choice imo.

cson · 05-11-2011 05:56AM

tsoparno wrote: »

@ gosplan

that vid really shows how much kos has come on, heard everyone say how good he was against chelski but i was to nervous during the game to concentrate and study it properly.

Apart from the uber gay music; the vid is top notch, Kos is very much an AW centre half if there is one - quick, composed on the ball and attacking in a defensive sense.

G.K. · 05-11-2011 12:28PM

How is that 'uber gay' music?

cson · 05-11-2011 01:03PM

Listen to the lyrics in it - its not exactly Kasabian!

L'prof · 05-11-2011 01:58PM

Band of Horses are pretty good if you ask me!

05-11-2011 01:59PM

Ugh, Newcastle winning already, lucky goal too.

L'prof · 05-11-2011 02:01PM

AdamD wrote: »

Ugh, Newcastle winning already, lucky goal too.

What's the harm in that? I'm delighted they're doing so well even if I'm not too fond of Ashley & Pardew.

05-11-2011 02:04PM

L'prof wrote: »

What's the harm in that? I'm delighted they're doing so well even if I'm not too fond of Ashley & Pardew.

At this point they have to be considered our rivals for 4th along with Tottenham. This is a massive game for them because they have City, United and Chelsea coming up.

gnfnrhead · 05-11-2011 02:09PM

Does anyone expect Newcastle to last the distance? They'll give it a go but fall away after Christmas and be looking for a Europa League spot at best by the end of the season. I'll be shocked if they keep up their current form for the entire season.

Arsenal Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2011/2012

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