Irish chicken is fresher and better quality - please buy Irish

Duke Leonal Felmet · 02-11-2011 01:46PM

4leto wrote: »

Its one of my great mysteries in life. I do see a chicken in Tesco for 2 to 3 euros and I think HOW, how do they feed and water the little critter, then gut, pluck and transport the bird to a Tesco shop who I imagine get a cut as well for 3 euros, surely it has eaten more then 3 euros worth of feed.

How the fkuc do they do it.

The biggest costs facing any producer must be taken on a cost per unit basis, and more importantly, how many units your resources can cater for. If you stick thousands of chickens into a tiny shed, feed them garbage and allow them to p1ss and sh1t all over each other, then your cost per unit produced is driven way down. To produce free range chickens requires a lot of land. Cost per unit rises. Feed them corn, cost per unit rises. These things multiply and lead to more expensive meat.

bamboozle · 02-11-2011 01:48PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

It doesn't make any difference. Tesco, Lidl, Dunnes etc all buy their stuff from the same people.

anyone i know in food production here has had major issues with Tesco squeezing the life out of their margins and threatening to replace with cheaper non-irish products, one of the companies had 13 products with Tesco 3 years ago, now they have 3, the other 10 replaced with welsh and asian sourced products.

Joshua Jones · 02-11-2011 01:56PM

Judging by the fact that over half of the players at the U17 world cup failed drug tests due to steroids in the local meat, people should be wary where their produce comes from.

Fratton Fred · 02-11-2011 02:02PM

bamboozle wrote: »

anyone i know in food production here has had major issues with Tesco squeezing the life out of their margins and threatening to replace with cheaper non-irish products, one of the companies had 13 products with Tesco 3 years ago, now they have 3, the other 10 replaced with welsh and asian sourced products.

Lidl and Dunnes are the same, as are Musgraves.

Tesco source on a global/regional basis, not country by country.

The Irish food sector is doing very well at the moment, look at Kerry Foods for example. One of the reasons for that is because they supply Tesco not just in Ireland, but also in the UK.

Paparazzo · 02-11-2011 02:03PM

Sergeant wrote: »

Battery chicken is a disgusting lump of tasteless protein no matter where in the world it comes from.

Unless its covered in a crispy kfc coating

old hippy · 02-11-2011 02:05PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Lidl and Dunnes are the same, as are Musgraves.

Tesco source on a global/regional basis, not country by country.

The Irish food sector is doing very well at the moment, look at Kerry Foods for example. One of the reasons for that is because they supply Tesco not just in Ireland, but also in the UK.

Indeed they do, that was one of the brands I bought here in London town, before I quit all cow products. But I bought it because it was a quality product - not simply because it was Irish. All this petty jingoistic flag waving is ridiculous.

Gummy Panda · 02-11-2011 02:06PM

themadchef wrote: »

We eat FAR too much meat. Shead load of mince for €3? :eek: bargain? Think not. People stop feeding your faces with crap. Beans, pulses, vegetables. Meat used to be eaten twice maybe and i mean MAYBE 3 times a week not three meals a day ffs.

We need to give the piggy a rest and let the John Wayne revoloution begin. Might get a bit blustery :pac:

That just crazy talk.

hangon · 02-11-2011 02:36PM

Gummy Panda wrote: »

That just crazy talk.

Careful now,it is obvious that Animals are in the ascendency and us higher beings are on the decline.

ryoishin · 02-11-2011 02:44PM

Chickens are nt supposed to eat corn they re not vegaterians! Thats why its crap meat, fattens them up but very little in the way of nutrition.

Andrew33 · 02-11-2011 02:48PM

Ste_D wrote: »

If chicken can be imported from Thailand for 1/5th the price then its not hard to see why the Irish farmers are not doing well.

Have you seen the environmental damage being done in these Asian countries by unscrupulous companies just to provide us with cheap, crap quality chicken/pork/prawns etc.
If people opened their eyes and saw some of the horrendous conditions that animals are being reared in out east, they'd pay more attention to where their food is coming from.
The large retailers (I'm thinking Tesco mostly) really need to start coming clean on where their stuff is coming from.
I'm sick and tired of reading "Produced inside/outside the EU for Tesco/Dunnes/Aldi (delete as applicable) on supermarket packaging.
I want to know where my food is coming from!

Another point raised on that programme,

Large retailer opens store on outskirts of a town with the announcement that 100 jobs will be created.
What they fail to mention (and this is backed up with hard statistical evidence) is that 150 jobs will be lost in the surrounding area within 3 yrs as a direct result of large retailer moving in.

WalterMitty · 02-11-2011 02:48PM

When the super powerfull alien species arrive to eat us all and consume our resources people will be a lot more concerned about the welfare of livestock. Death for all, free range life for some.

Logical Fallacy · 02-11-2011 02:50PM

ryoishin wrote: »

Chickens are nt supposed to eat corn they re not vegaterians! Thats why its crap meat, fattens them up but very little in the way of nutrition.

Chickens do love insects in fairness.

Nyom!

ei.sdraob · 02-11-2011 02:55PM

As an exporting nation, whose economy is fecked and the only good thing left about it is exports

I would not rock the boat too much with whole "buy oirish" noise, if our trade partners ever decide to get similar protectionist ideas then this country is well and truly screwed

bamboozle · 02-11-2011 03:09PM

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Lidl and Dunnes are the same, as are Musgraves.

Tesco source on a global/regional basis, not country by country.

The Irish food sector is doing very well at the moment, look at Kerry Foods for example. One of the reasons for that is because they supply Tesco not just in Ireland, but also in the UK.

like i said the people in the industry i spoke to had particular issues with Tesco.

Dermighty · 02-11-2011 03:10PM

I buy mine from O'Mahonys in the English market. It's the best I've tried (except M&S Oakham chicken).

If the quality is consistent I will consistently buy it...

norrie rugger · 02-11-2011 03:52PM

bamboozle wrote: »

like i said the people in the industry i spoke to had particular issues with Tesco.

Tesco pretty much set out to remove local competition, as much as possible.
Lower prices and specials, for as long as the local established business survives. They then increase their price, once the competition is eliminated.
Local producers then have no local outlet, for their produce, suffer reduced income making the cost per item increase

conorhal · 02-11-2011 04:16PM

Anybody that has ordered a sambo from a Spar deli (or most deli's around the country) will probably have been treated to the 'unique taste sensation' of a rubbery, flavourless, dry and strangely textured meat that is refered to as 'chicken' (I assume it meets some kind of loose legal definition that allows this), but bares not the slightest resemblence to any chicken that I've ever tasted. Something tells me the Thai's might be pulling a fast one with the stuff they flog.......

Wertz · 02-11-2011 05:02PM

Dermighty wrote: »

I buy mine from O'Mahonys in the English market. It's the best I've tried (except M&S Oakham chicken).

If the quality is consistent I will consistently buy it...

The Mystery of the Oakham chicken.

As for Dunnes (and I'm far from a fan of theirs), to be fair to them their fresh birds come with the name of the originating farm/farmer in bold lettering on the cellophane. Most of their stock around here is suorced in Cavan/Monaghan. Yet to see that in Tesco's...

lucylu · 02-11-2011 06:13PM

For those who buy your Chicken from your butcher or in bulk boxes watch out you are not buying Dutch chicken fillets .. Slí-Eile chicken is Dutch

http://www.europafoods.ie/brand_product.php?id=77&cname='Sli-Eile'

honru · 02-11-2011 06:19PM

^ I know there's been discussion about Thailand and other East Asia countries but in my experience a lot of chicken seems to be imported from the Netherlands and Belgium.

Irishchick · 02-11-2011 07:04PM

Alot of people don't seem to realise but battery cages are banned now and will have to be removed from farms by January 2012 with heave penalties for those who do not follow the new guidelines.

I try to buy Irish and free range anyway.

old hippy · 02-11-2011 07:07PM

Irishchick wrote: »

Alot of people don't seem to realise but battery cages are banned now and will have to be removed from farms by January 2012 with heave penalties for those who do not follow the new guidelines.

I try to buy Irish and free range anyway.

You've been waiting for this thread for a long, long time, haven't you?

:D

Irishchick · 02-11-2011 07:08PM

lol no just a coincidence as our animal husbandry lecturer was telling us last week

Gummy Panda · 02-11-2011 07:15PM

Tesco chicken is **** anyway.

Local good quality butcher or M&S oakham chicken (I know its northern ireland but it is nice)

strobe · 02-11-2011 07:16PM

Irishchick wrote: »

Alot of people don't seem to realise but battery cages are banned now and will have to be removed from farms by January 2012 with heave penalties for those who do not follow the new guidelines.

I try to buy Irish and free range anyway.

Love when usernames unintentionally match a post like that. You're a credit to your people.

listermint · 02-11-2011 07:42PM

Sergeant wrote: »

The vast majority of chicken raised and slaughtered in Ireland are of the intensively produced broiler variety. These are animals that are never see natural daylight, and reach slaughter age at approx 40% of the time that they did 25 years ago. They are specially bred to have larger breasts and smaller legs as we don't tend to eat the legs in Ireland. Many of them are considered fit for slaughter when their legs break. They are fed by machine, and the farmer/operator removes those of them that die before they reach slaughter age.

By contrast, an organic chicken takes about 14 weeks to mature. So conditions in Ireland are almost no better for the chicken than those in Thailand or Vietnam. If you want cheap chicken then you may as well go for the cheapest, as the entire process of raising broilers differs very little in any place in the world.

Whilst True, Is it not suffice to say that something that is about 100/200 miles away is alot fresher than it being slaughtered and travelling half way around the globe?

Also it has to adhere to Irish Food Standards, which despite all the moaning and groaning in here are quite poxy well high. Producers have quite a high bar to reach here. Not so in Thailand.

As im sure you'll agree

listermint · 02-11-2011 07:53PM

old hippy wrote: »

Indeed they do, that was one of the brands I bought here in London town, before I quit all cow products. But I bought it because it was a quality product - not simply because it was Irish. All this petty jingoistic flag waving is ridiculous.

Jingoistic Flag Waving???

Surely it makes sense to give jobs to people who are local and live in this country and pay taxes here?

Or would you rather destroy the industry and throw them all on the scrap heap just so you can satisfy yourself with cheaper goods....

See how cheap the welfare bill is then. Your savings on goods will go into higher taxes. Its not rocket science.

Support local industry and local jobs.

would have thought a 'hippy' would have coped that.....

paddyandy · 02-11-2011 08:04PM

THE Way those creatures live....like a human spending his life living in a wardrobe and at the end of it.........never ever touch it...like rubber i believe.If there were no sauces(the lies) to cover the food(truth) very little on this island would be worth the effort of eating at all.Hydra Food.

LondonIrish90 · 02-11-2011 08:04PM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Yes, into Ireland. Irish farmers in the North give the queen some tax, then she gives them and their community 7 billion more back every year. Very nice of her. Are we done with this yet, or do you want another spin on this merry-go-round before we get back to the chickens?

I'm amazed that a thread about chicken has managed to bring out the "British occupation of Ireland" crew. Fair play sir, your ability to spot a gap appears to know no bounds.

As for chicken, as has already been suggested, free range oakham smoked is by far the most delicious chicken you will find in a supermarket.

texidub · 02-11-2011 08:04PM

Sergeant wrote: »

The vast majority of chicken raised and slaughtered in Ireland are of the intensively produced broiler variety. These are animals that are never see natural daylight, and reach slaughter age at approx 40% of the time that they did 25 years ago.

Exactly. Don't buy into the 'buy Irish' nonsense --one greedy, cost-cutting businessperson is the same as the next. Buy irish for the satisfaction of having a neighbour rip you off..

Better the divil you know?

Just a load of pseudopatriotic guff, tbh...

Irish chicken is fresher and better quality - please buy Irish

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