Could this happen in Ireland?

Lone Stone · 27-10-2011 05:59PM

QUICK lets call the Americans and NATO to invade and stop this government harming its citizens !!

ow wait... ****

alphanine · 27-10-2011 07:13PM

RichieC wrote: »

Land of the free home of the brave.....if it happened in a brown country the yanks would be calling for interventions...

Oakland is pretty much a "brown" city. Wouldn't see this carryon in more affluent areas.

melekalikimaka · 27-10-2011 07:42PM

should have listened to the polices orders and not pr1cked about.

Chuck Stone · 27-10-2011 07:47PM

melekalikimaka wrote: »

should have listened to the polices orders and not pr1cked about.

Yes because that always leads to a fair and peaceful society.

not yet · 27-10-2011 07:49PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

Are you for fcucking real.............what planet do you live on.

dj jarvis · 27-10-2011 07:52PM

HavingCrack wrote: »

Well actually they can't. In some states it's obligatory to renounce membership of any politcal party if you become a solider. Basically the idea is that the armed forces should be neutral in any civil unrest rather than biased towarda a particular political grouping. There's actually soudn enough reasons for it, have a look at the Spanish Civil War to see what political inflitration of the army can lead to. I'm not sure on the law on Ireland but I think members of the IDF are not allowed be part of any political party.

fed law surpasses state law - soldiers in the us ( and Europe ) can be a member of any political party they wish , once its not a prescribed illigal org

and in fairness it would be pointless having a army that is politically neutral - it just would never happen
that is why lots of country's have compulsory service for 18+ - so they get a broad political spectrum ( that is why Germany up until recently did not have a " professional " army as to not make the mistakes of the past - less likely for a army to turn of the people if its made up from the people )

the irish army can vote as they like and as far as i know always have been

JustAThought · 27-10-2011 07:57PM

Not quite. They can vote here; but cannot campaign or be a member of any political party. Guy/gal up above was right.
In similar vein the GAURDS and army arnt allowed to go onstrike. Blue flu-ers ; did anything ever happen to them?

Bobby Baccala · 27-10-2011 07:58PM

4leto wrote: »

What was he shot with a bullet or a bean bag??

With a bullet there was lethal intent, with a bean bag its designed to hurt but can kill if hit in the head.

he was shot with a tear gas can.

HavingCrack · 27-10-2011 08:43PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

fed law surpasses state law - soldiers in the us ( and Europe ) can be a member of any political party they wish , once its not a prescribed illigal org

Simply incorrect. Federal vs state law has nothing to do with it. Campaigning on behalf on or membership of political parties is banned in every military force I can think of.

dj jarvis wrote: »

and in fairness it would be pointless having a army that is politically neutral - it just would never happen
that is why lots of country's have compulsory service for 18+ - so they get a broad political spectrum ( that is why Germany up until recently did not have a " professional " army as to not make the mistakes of the past - less likely for a army to turn of the people if its made up from the people )

Actually having a politically neutral army or at least aiming for one is an excellent idea. Countries do not have compulsory service aka conscription for the purposes of having a broad politcal spectrum, that's simply wrong.

Actually, if you're referring to the Imperial German Army and latterly the Wehrmacht and SS they were all conscript armies.

dj jarvis wrote: »

the irish army can vote as they like and as far as i know always have been

They can vote, I never suggested otherwise. However they cannot campaign on behalf of any candidate or political party or be a member of a political party. The Guards have similar criteria for membership. Your beliefs

dj jarvis · 27-10-2011 08:45PM

JustAThought wrote: »

Not quite. They can vote here; but cannot campaign or be a member of any political party. Guy/gal up above was right.
In similar vein the GAURDS and army arnt allowed to go onstrike. Blue flu-ers ; did anything ever happen to them?

sorry i misunderstood what he was saying

i took it as he was saying they could not vote or have political opinion

as for blue flu nothing ever happened, as with the formation of PDFORRA the army brass went mental when it started as far as i can remember,
its a proxy union for the army/naval service and air corp , no real powers but do represent the conditions none the less

the government is not stupid - dont piss off the forces that ensure the power of your government

seanin4711 · 27-10-2011 08:49PM

bloody cops

Hande hoche! · 27-10-2011 08:52PM

HavingCrack wrote: »

Simply incorrect. Federal vs state law has nothing to do with it. Campaigning on behalf on or membership of political parties is banned in every military force I can think of.

Actually having a politically neutral army or at least aiming for one is an excellent idea. Countries do not have compulsory service aka conscription for the purposes of having a broad politcal spectrum, that's simply wrong.

Actually, if you're referring to the Imperial German Army and latterly the Wehrmacht and SS they were all conscript armies.

They can vote, I never suggested otherwise. However they cannot campaign on behalf of any candidate or political party or be a member of a political party. The Guards have similar criteria for membership. Your beliefs

I think he is talking about the bundeswehr.

DoneDL · 27-10-2011 08:54PM

It does make me appreciate the guards a bit more.

dj jarvis · 27-10-2011 09:01PM

im presuming you missed my post where i said i misunderstood your post havingthecrack so calm down

you are wrong about the German army , post war they made sure that all joe soap's were in the army to stop a army having the power that the nazis had,
did not want a majority professional army that could be used like they were during the Nazi years

the German army was professional during the nazi era - the ss and sa were NEVER part of the German army

the logic was up till 2010 if they had German citizens as a non professional army then there was less chance of it being led into a situation like the Nazis
( they did have a percentage of pros , but just to run the infrastructure )

stone roses · 27-10-2011 09:45PM

there is no shame in what these people are doing! if your are not ready to stand up for what you believe in then take a back seat follow the sheep and shut up! its easy to look at these protesters and put them down but the fact is these protesters did not run a country into the wall in the name of greed , power and money, they are everyday people trying to make a future for them selfs, all they want is fair play and to live a good life but the big guns dont care!!! so what else can they do if no one gives a dame about there future?

its a bit like the school bully, he keeps kicking, kicking and kicking until he kicks no more and you knock him out yourself! simple :-)

vampire of kilmainham · 28-10-2011 07:45AM

yea it might happen here bring it on

Crazy Horse 6 · 28-10-2011 08:17AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

Your a class act you know that.:rolleyes:

Could this happen in Ireland?

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