Could this happen in Ireland?

talkinyite · 27-10-2011 03:21PM #1

Just came across this video of the civil unrest in the U.S. and wondered if the same thing could happen here, what do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLyUK0t0vQ

apparently the guy who got shot was a U.S. soldier and is now in a coma.

Lando Griffin · 27-10-2011 03:23PM

Disgraceful behaviour.

Morlar · 27-10-2011 03:26PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avz7Z3Z8FsE

Celly Smunt · 27-10-2011 03:27PM

talkinyite wrote: »

apparently the guy who got shot was a U.S. soldier and is now in a coma.

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

Oranage2 · 27-10-2011 03:27PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3LTQGXTx4Y

Celly Smunt · 27-10-2011 03:28PM

Morlar wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avz7Z3Z8FsE

shankill bombings.
Both sides are as bad as the other.

Morlar · 27-10-2011 03:30PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

shankill bombings.
Both sides are as bad as the other.

That clip shows the british state via the RUC firing baton rounds into crowds of unarmed Irish people.

To answer the OP - yes this can and has happened in Ireland.

Saila · 27-10-2011 03:31PM

Im blind I didnt see anyone get SHOT

fulhamfanincork · 27-10-2011 03:32PM

it would never happen here as I doubt the Guards have flash grenades...

talkinyite · 27-10-2011 03:33PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

Sorry he's a veteran, not active.

Celly Smunt · 27-10-2011 03:34PM

Morlar wrote: »

Shankill butchers were loyalists who butchered random catholics.

That clip shows the british state via the RUC firing baton rounds into crowds of unarmed Irish people.

IRA
621 civilian casulties and 6 Irish armed forces and Gardaí

am i right in saying that the IRA classes themselves as the official army of the Irish state?,seems a bit like for like to me.

anyway,game over,another thread another day.

Brendog · 27-10-2011 03:34PM

Ah we're too broke to like that.

I apply my universal prinicpal to this...

"Whats th point? Its nearly Friday anyway"

MagicMarker · 27-10-2011 03:35PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

Aren't you lovely.

krudler · 27-10-2011 03:35PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

wow..

Morlar · 27-10-2011 03:37PM

krudler wrote: »

wow..

He's a charmer that scott Tenorman is . .

Gee Bag · 27-10-2011 03:39PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

Top notch post there, o great king of the fearless interner warriors

Morlar · 27-10-2011 03:54PM

This one was shown on TV the day it happened, the footage doesn't appear to be avialable on youtube now though

Photo A)
http://belfastexposed.org/uploadimages/SeanDownes2.jpg

Photo

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00025/Alan_Lewis_Sean_Dow__25327s.jpg

Yes the guy died. Yes the RUC man was found not guilty. I think if incidents like that were happening regularly in the republic then there would be a very different attitude.

biko · 27-10-2011 04:13PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Deserves to be in a coma.

Do not use this thread again.

Celly Smunt · 27-10-2011 04:13PM

biko wrote: »

Do not use this thread again.

ok.

Mod note:deserved to be banned.

IcedOut · 27-10-2011 04:20PM

The Gards don't have guns
And i'd be suprised if they knew what a flashbang was
So i doubt it would happen

Johnny D. Mudd · 27-10-2011 04:43PM

Astoundingly harsh post there from pmcmahon but let's not dwell on that.

These days I can't see the Irish public engaging in such unadulterated violence as we appear to have become neutered and reluctant to act. There have been grumblings from the masses I know but there hasn't been any firm action. Which is a shame as it has resulted in a Political Party being more willing and unafraid to exploit our naivety from which we are now paying the price. But then we've always kinda been a pacifist-type people. Apart from times when we needed to engage in violence obviously.

Fighting Irish · 27-10-2011 04:50PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

:rolleyes:

Gee Bag · 27-10-2011 04:54PM

The Gardai do have flash bangs (stun grenades). They are only used by the ERU and they don't go throwing them into crowds of fairly peaceful protestors like that gobshyte cop in the video.

The guy who was hit seems to have been struck by a baton round (I looked up a few online news reports). They are still used in the north, but to a far lesser extent than they were years ago.

I'm pretty sure the guards have never used baton rounds or tear gas, they certainly weren't used during the DUblin riots in 2006 or 1981 (Don't know if they even have them in reserve). They seem to prefer the old fashioned 'roll up the schleeves and get schtuck in' approach to crowd control.

Logical Fallacy · 27-10-2011 05:03PM

Interesting as the cops spent the whole day saying they didn't use any flashbangs.

Gee Bag · 27-10-2011 05:12PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Interesting as the cops spent the whole day saying they didn't use any flashbangs.

What day?

dj jarvis · 27-10-2011 05:24PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Soldiers should not demonstrate or be part of a particular political party,it is against the law and dishonorable to the highest degree.

Deserves to be in a coma.

are you retarded ?? of course a serving soldier can part of ANY political party if they so wish - why not ?

as for your other comment - only one person deserves that for such a comment and that is you - ignorant post from a ignorant gob****e

Chuck Stone · 27-10-2011 05:25PM

If the US stratifies any more it will end up with serious levels of countrywide unrest imho.

Morlar wrote: »

Photo
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00025/Alan_Lewis_Sean_Dow__25327s.jpg

Yes the guy died. Yes the RUC man was found not guilty.

Probably has a good pension and all the murdering bastard.

RichieC · 27-10-2011 05:30PM

Land of the free home of the brave.....if it happened in a brown country the yanks would be calling for interventions...

HavingCrack · 27-10-2011 05:38PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

are you retarded ?? of course a serving soldier can part of ANY political party if they so wish - why not ?

Well actually they can't. In some states it's obligatory to renounce membership of any politcal party if you become a solider. Basically the idea is that the armed forces should be neutral in any civil unrest rather than biased towarda a particular political grouping. There's actually soudn enough reasons for it, have a look at the Spanish Civil War to see what political inflitration of the army can lead to. I'm not sure on the law on Ireland but I think members of the IDF are not allowed be part of any political party.

The Scientician · 27-10-2011 05:55PM

Oakland is a particularly violent city with a dodgy police force. The stuff happening there is a lot less likely across most of the US.

4leto · 27-10-2011 05:59PM

What was he shot with a bullet or a bean bag??

With a bullet there was lethal intent, with a bean bag its designed to hurt but can kill if hit in the head.

Could this happen in Ireland?

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