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Being a good samaritan?

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  • #32
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Locker10a wrote: »
    interesting thread!!! In psychology we studied this case - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

    It lead to alot of research on the bystander affect which is what this thread is about!! Its an interesting read!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

    Looking at a few bystander effect videos it's really interesting but very shocking.


    And to the people that say they'd do something - fair play I wish I was that courages.


  • #33
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Used to be a hotel night porter in Galway so dodging the drunks in Eyre Sq as I walked to work.
    Like the example further up, saw a lad clobber his girlfriend and knock her to the ground, me being the gentleman I stepped in to cool heads and break it up and then they both turned on me.

    Next time I'm walking by, if a girl wants to stay with such a lad then they deserve each other.
    Just my personal experience


  • #34
    EL_Loco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭EL_Loco


    I've been "the hero" in a couple of situations like that. The aul bystanders getting involved as soon as you do really annoys me. I've always shooed them away, they were there before me doing nothing, not going to let it turn into a circus because I was the one to approach the downed party.


  • #35
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    EL_Loco wrote: »
    I've been "the hero" in a couple of situations like that. The aul bystanders getting involved as soon as you do really annoys me. I've always shooed them away, they were there before me doing nothing, not going to let it turn into a circus because I was the one to approach the downed party.

    It seems, from your description, like you want to hog all the glory of it! There's alwasys gonna be leaders and followers....

    Here's a good example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp28Jgn-8e8


  • #36
    az2wp0sye65487
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭az2wp0sye65487


    Here's the video that I was talking about earlier. I don't have the sound on in work so cant hear what's being said - but notice how it takes a few minutes for people to react to the victim in the jeans & overcoat and then only 4 seconds for people to react to the victim in the suit.

    Also, when the girl 'collapsed'.... WTF is wrong with yer man sitting beside her on the wall reading the paper!?


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  • #37
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Extremely interesting video steviecakes


  • #38
    EL_Loco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭EL_Loco


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    It seems, from your description, like you want to hog all the glory of it!

    you got me. I've a cape and all.


  • #39
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Well with all the news that shocked the world from China an incident happened to me yesterday that's somewhat similar -
    I was in Smithfield and about 100 meters away from me I saw a man sitting up against a sign - the man was passed out from what appeared to be drink and/or drugs.
    I looked over at him but didnt do anything - I didnt go over to see if he was alright and I didnt even ring 999 - After I thought it was a pretty cowardly thing to do nothing.

    In fairness, Orange.
    Sounds like he was a junkie. And you are better off staying well-clear of them.

    I guess it comes down to the situation. If I see some tracksuit wearing bloke thats sitting up against a wall with a busted face (or whatever) I'd think junkie and walk on.
    However, if it was some old drunk or seemingly average bloke. I'd stop and say "you alright mate?"

    Kinda depends on the situation.


  • #40
    Novella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I was driving down the quays in Dublin one night last year and I saw a lady on her own who was swaying as she walked and stepping on to the road etc. She didn't appear to know where she was. I was worried that she would get hit by car or something so I stopped and rang the guards.

    I guess if everybody thought, "Ah sure, someone else will take care of it", no one would do anything. Better to be safe than sorry. :)


  • #41
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Well with all the news that shocked the world from China an incident happened to me yesterday that's somewhat similar -

    I was in Smithfield and about 100 meters away from me I saw a man sitting up against a sign - the man was passed out from what appeared to be drink and/or drugs.

    I looked over at him but didnt do anything - I didnt go over to see if he was alright and I didnt even ring 999 - After I thought it was a pretty cowardly thing to do nothing.


    So people of boards what would you do if you saw somebody passes out and has something like this happened to you and what did you do?

    This is what I'd do, again - real link to an old thread.


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  • #42
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Trinity Gray Violinist wrote: »
    This is what I'd do, again - real link to an old thread.

    Good on you Trinity Gray Violinist :)


  • #43
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    Ring 999 ?

    nah feck that

    Id ring 112 !


  • #44
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    After we looked into the bystander effect in collage i was walking down grafton street. I noticed a girl with no shoes who was slowly walking down towards trinity and was stopping looking around! She looked lost and worried. I wanted to help her but noone was bothered so i kept walking and my curiousty as to her situation grew. Eventually when we were waiting to cross the road at the lights i said **** it im not going to be a by stander! I asked her was she alright! Turns out she wasnt from Dublin and had just spent the night in the slammer!!! She had just been released and didnt have a clue where to go! She was trying to find the Luas! So i gave her directions to abbey street cause she needed the red line!
    Yes she could haven been a criminal but im still glad i asked and didnt just say "ahh someone else will deal with it" like i normally would have!
    I would encourage everyone to make an effort to help someone in need! However drunks/junkies are probly best left alone untill the gards deal with them.
    But its still important not to assume "someone else will sort it our". yes they might but they might not! At the least call the gards or ambulane if you see someone who looks sick passed out.


  • #45
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IhGSCC3LlI


    The only way to break the bystander effect is not be delusional and believe it doesn't apply to you but to accept it does apply to you and when you're in that situation decide not to pretend like nothing is happening. Don't think other people will take action, don't think because no one else is doing anything nothing needs to be done. Just do something.


  • #46
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Novella wrote: »
    I was driving down the quays in Dublin one night last year and I saw a lady on her own who was swaying as she walked and stepping on to the road etc. She didn't appear to know where she was. I was worried that she would get hit by car or something so I stopped and rang the guards.

    I guess if everybody thought, "Ah sure, someone else will take care of it", no one would do anything. Better to be safe than sorry. :)

    The funny thing is the Guards probably did nothing about it :p
    As soon as the phone went down "ah, she'll be grand. Probably hop in a taxi. We got more things to worry about" - you know yourself.


  • #47
    Laura_lolly87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Laura_lolly87


    One night a few years ago I was leaving my boyfriends house. It was about 1am . I was about to get into my car when I looked up the road and saw a guy lying down on the pavement not moving. I ran back inside and grabbed my boyfriend and went to see if the guy was ok. Turns out he had been drinking with his friend and was staying at his house that night but they got seperated so he headed back to the house and decided to have a sleep while he waited for his friend. I only got my boyfriend because it was so late and I didnt want to walk up the guy on my own.

    To the people who have tried to defend women only to have the women turn on them, would that put you off defending people in future?


  • #48
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Laura_lolly87 wrote: »
    To the people who have tried to defend women only to have the women turn on them, would that put you off defending people in future?

    Hmmm, I dunno.
    The classic negative example comes to mind ... guy helps a couple who are fighting and gets double teamed by both.

    Actually speaking of women and helping people...
    I remember working the Boyzone gig in 2008 as stewart and after the gig one girl was locked and starts running to her mate (her mate was beside me) she tripped and both girls fell as they were about to hug each other (usual locked fall on you crap) I helped her up and she pulled some "WHAT YOU DOIN?" face. To be honest, I got the impression she would of said something only that she saw the high-vis vest on me.


  • #49
    dsmythy
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    Fighting couple.

    Collapsed man on a lonely roadside in perfect view of oncoming traffic.

    Outside of those two situations, yes.


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