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Dale Farm Residents lose legal battle.

  • 18-10-2011 12:36AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭


    Looks like the residents of Dale Farm are going to be evicted. If they are there illegally why are they fighting the eviction?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dale-farm-travellers-promise-to-fight-eviction-as-final-appeal-fails-2372011.html
    Residents of the UK's biggest illegal Traveller site vowed to fight attempts to evict them yesterday after losing their final appeal in the High Court.

    Supporters called for reinforcements and began manning the barricades after people living illegally at Dale Farm in Essex were refused permission to appeal against a court ruling allowing the local council to go ahead with the evictions.
    Soon after the verdict was delivered, supporters of the Travellers said the site had gone into "lockdown" and Kathleen McCarthy, a Dale Farm resident, said: "This looks like the end of the road. We'll have to fight the bailiffs off." She added: "We've been left with no choice, we really have nowhere else to go. Do you think we'd put ourselves through this if we did?
    "The law is prejudiced against Travellers. We were told 15 years ago to get off the road and buy our own land, but now they are forcing us and our kids out on to the road again. The barricades are all that stand between us and homelessness now."
    The Travellers own the land near Basildon but do not have planning permission to live on approximately half of it. The legal battle has been rumbling on for more than 10 years but Court of Appeal judge Lord Justice Sullivan's decision yesterday that they cannot challenge an earlier verdict allowing the evictions to go ahead, brings the fight to an end in the UK courts.
    However, Grattan Puxon, a spokesman for the Travellers, said they intended to take the case to the European Court of Human Rights, claiming that the evictions represent a contravention of their right to respect for private and family life. "We have already filed papers with the European Court of Human Rights and we are in line for a hearing but we don't know if it would be given emergency status and we do not have an injunction holding off the evictions until we can go. We are clear that we are left open to eviction from now. We are expecting the bailiffs to try to come into the site in the next 48 hours," he said.
    "The UN has been saying for some months that the evictions would be a breach of our human rights. We believe it breaches Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights."
    The residents were given a last-minute reprieve on 26 September while legal issues over what could and could not be removed from the site and applications to bring judicial reviews were considered. Basildon Council repeated its call for residents to leave peacefully.
    Tony Ball, leader of the council, said: "Since last Wednesday evening the residents at Dale Farm have been living on borrowed time. The so-called supporters should also pack up their belongings and leave the site. If they have the Travellers' best interest at heart they will either leave the area now or confine their activities to helping the Travellers to leave."
    He said the council would not give further notice of when a site clearance would begin, adding: "We are required to give 48 hours' notice to three plots and that we will do but the rest of the site will now be cleared at a time of our choosing. Our job is now to clear this site in a safe and dignified manner and this is what we intend to do."
    Writing on their blog, Dale Farm Solidarity – a group supporting the residents – said: "We need supporters to come down as soon as possible to help resist this eviction."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Looks like the residents of Dale Farm are going to be evicted. If they are there illegally why are they fighting the eviction?
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/dale-farm-travellers-promise-to-fight-eviction-as-final-appeal-fails-2372011.html

    Because the world is their oyster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    They own the land.

    They do not, however, have permission to build on 50% of it, hence the evictions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,916 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Those poor unfortunate members of the travelling community.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Delighted, turf the ****ers out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    this is going to get interesting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Delighted, turf the ****ers out
    But keep the feckers in England, we have enough of the dirty ****es over here..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Sky News should be the craic once the evictions start :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    Travellers like to buy up land that they know is designated green belt. They get the land for a song. They then proceed to break the law. However, I am sure whoever sold the land to them was aware of this. They have to take some of the blame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    Sky News should be the craic once the evictions start :D
    I cant wait, its going to be comedy gold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Delighted, turf the ****ers out

    or fuck the turfers out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Micklaus


    So....appeal to the courts and when you don't get your own way disobey the ruling.....usual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Il Trap




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    *Opens a bag of popcorn and gets comfortable*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Il Trap wrote: »
    Send in the bailiffs! :pac:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭fortwilliam


    They have lost their final appeal, that's it, no further discussion.

    Step 1, send in the council escorted by police to politley ask them to comply with the court order to leave.
    Step 2, Send in the army accompanied by riot police, force eviction and arrest anyone resisting & bulldoze any caravans not off the property by a nominated time.

    This should be done within the next 48 hours with clear and specific details given about the concequences of non-complience.

    Done, next ...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Dublindude69


    This is probably going to get bloody.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    The bad news in all this is if they are evicted they might come back home, I certainly don't the lot of them squatting in my town!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Sky News should be the craic once the evictions start :D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    They should give them boats, then they would be Sea Pikies everyone loves sea pikies !!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    If you replaced 'traveller' with 'black person', would this conversation have taken the same route I wonder?

    I suspect not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Dublindude69


    _Beau_ wrote: »
    If you replaced 'traveller' with 'black person', would this conversation have taken the same route I wonder?

    I suspect not.

    If a group of black people where living somewhere illegally then yes, I would say toss em out, law applies to everyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    I'm referring to the discriminatory remarks within this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    They should give them boats, then they would be Sea Pikies everyone loves sea pikies !!
    Happy go likeys you mean:)..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Dublindude69


    _Beau_ wrote: »
    I'm referring to the discriminatory remarks within this thread.
    Well as someone who is sick to death of being harrassed daily by travellers, beingthreatened, robbed, beaten up by them and then going to the guardi and being pretty much told nothing will be done about it because they are travellers so yeah, I have no compassion for them at all.
    They seem to think they law doesn't apply to them that's why I'm so interested to see how this turns out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I'm disappointed they lost

    Now they might be coming over here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 662 ✭✭✭fran oconnor


    Well as someone who is sick to death of being harrassed daily by travellers, beingthreatened, robbed, beaten up by them and then going to the guardi and being pretty much told nothing will be done about it because they are travellers so yeah, I have no compassion for them at all.
    They seem to think they law doesn't apply to them that's why I'm so interested to see how this turns out.
    I can honestly say, i wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire, i wonder have the people that defend these dirty bastards ever been on the end of them robbing from you, or leaving an area where you live in bits. They are low life scum that don't want to abide by the same rules as everyone else, but they still want to be treated the same..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭_Beau_


    Well as someone who is sick to death of being harrassed daily by travellers, beingthreatened, robbed, beaten up by them and then going to the guardi and being pretty much told nothing will be done about it because they are travellers so yeah, I have no compassion for them at all.
    They seem to think they law doesn't apply to them that's why I'm so interested to see how this turns out.


    Since when did painting an entire group of people with the same brush become reasonable?

    As far as I'm aware, anecdotal evidence does not support an argument, especially one that favours discrimination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I suspect most of the Travellers will leave except for a few hardcore ones.

    It'd be fairly traumatising for the kids to experience forced eviction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 770 ✭✭✭Dublindude69


    _Beau_ wrote: »
    Since when did painting an entire group of people with the same brush become reasonable?

    As far as I'm aware, anecdotal evidence does not support an argument, especially one that favours discrimination.

    I've never had a good experience with them at all. I've delt with plenty of them and had to quit 2 jobs because of the abuse you get from them. That's why I'm glad I no longer work retail because they make you're daily life hell. They do what they want and get away with it, they know no one will do anything about it.


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