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Could you cope being homeless?.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    It's getting cold out there, not a chance I could sleep rough on the streets, doesn't even bear thinking about tbh :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    As long as I had my Iphone charger and free WiFi I think I'd do alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I'd probably be able to get by, most people would more than likely get by. It just wouldn't be a very nice life.

    I don't know why people are saying they couldn't do it, it's not a choice. If your in that position you just have to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    I think the most difficult factor of being homeless would be your mental state. Most people, I'd imagine, who end up on the street are either there due to a mental condition or develop a mental condition as a result of the factors of ending up on the street (e.g. depression after losing their home).

    With a solid routine to keep you occupied during your days you should be able to remain mentally healthy (e.g. showering/shaving in an airport or camping resort, reading or surfing the web in the library etc.).

    After that food would obviously be a problem but dumpster diving at shopping centers could produce enough sustainable food and clothing, as well as eating in homeless shelters.

    Then safety is obviously a consideration, finding somewhere warm and relatively safe to sleep at night. Don't know where you could do this apart from a homeless shelter, maybe an airport.

    I think if I had to I could survive, particularly if I had some possessions (e.g. laptop) and somewhere safe to keep them (e.g. locker in an airport or train station).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Seachmall wrote: »
    With a solid routine to keep you occupied during your days you should be able to remain mentally healthy (e.g. showering/shaving in an airport or camping resort, reading or surfing the web in the library etc.).

    After that food would obviously be a problem but dumpster diving at shopping centers could produce enough sustainable food and clothing, as well as eating in homeless shelters.

    Then safety is obviously a consideration, finding somewhere warm and relatively safe to sleep at night. Don't know where you could do this apart from a homeless shelter, maybe an airport.

    I think if I had to I could survive, particularly if I had some possessions (e.g. laptop) and somewhere safe to keep them (e.g. locker in an airport or train station).

    How many homeless people have you seen with a laptop :confused:

    Btw let me guess, when you were younger you wanted to be a pilot cos you seem to have a fascination with airports :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    kfallon wrote: »
    How many homeless people have you seen with a laptop :confused:
    I've seen a homeless guy with an iPhone a few times (no joke, he hangs around Fitzpatrick st. in Limerick). Realistically if I was going to end up on the street presumably I wouldn't loose everything, I could keep whatever I could carry.
    Btw let me guess, when you were younger you wanted to be a pilot cos you seem to have a fascination with airports :pac:
    Airports provide a lot of free facilities for travelers that could be useful to homeless people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    I think there's a difference to how a large or even regular sized man and how a woman - specially a small one, would survive.

    I'm 5ft and weigh six and a half stone. I don't think I'd do very well on the streets, and that's not a reflection of my ingenuity or resilience. There are bad people out there who prey on the vulnerable. I think I'd be very physically vulnerable.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    No. I'd find it hard to believe anyone could. It'd be rather mentally and physically draining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    I like to think I have a large and decent enough family for homelessness to never be an issue, but I know stranger things have happened.
    I'm pretty level headed, so I reckon I could figure something out, ie get myself the help needed before things got worse.

    I have a health condition that would probably see me dead within a year if I lived on the streets to be honest....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭howtomake


    I've only had a small taste of it, long long time ago. If one could hook up with a group, I think it is a bit more bearable. The first night was the loneliness and how I felt like I was living on the outside of society, I was pretty young though. Also I've had a family member do it too, but under quite different circumstances.

    And I've come across quite a few homeless people who still hold onto most of their morales and some that are quite nasty (of course). This phenomena is explained quite well in Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, just because one is put in extraordinary circumstances doesn't mean that we will all act the same for survival. The thing is you can never know I guess until you are in the situation.

    The most touching story was a homeless guy came up and asked me for change, I explained how I didn't even have any to put in the meter for my car, he then gave me some change. I'll never forget that. Also I used to live in an area where some of the guys would help out doing little things for people just to get some change, I used to give them some warm food. They were always courteous, never had a problem, although I was aware enough to ensure my safety always came first.

    But I always find it amazing how we adapt to situations though when we don't have a choice. I'd say most would find a way, no doubt it would be hard.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    No, I couldn't cope at all. I can understand why homeless people turn to alcohol and drugs (if that's not what made them homeless in the frist place). If I was living in the streets I would probably want something to make me forget and to get away from it all for a while.

    I read a book recently about homeless people and in it they said most of us are just two missed paycheques away from being homeless. Just 2 months where you have nothing coming in. Some of us are just more lucky in the support around us. It really made me think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    watna wrote: »
    I read a book recently about homeless people and in it they said most of us are just two missed paycheques away from being homeless.
    Would that have been in America though? I don't think people are as likely to end up homeless in Ireland. Most people have family that can take them in and even if they live on the other side of the country it's not a big deal. Unlike in America where if your family lives on the other side of the country you may never see them again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Would that have been in America though? I don't think people are as likely to end up homeless in Ireland. Most people have family that can take them in and even if they live on the other side of the country it's not a big deal. Unlike in America where if your family lives on the other side of the country you may never see them again.

    Nope, it was in the UK - but yes, I would imagine it's harder in places like the States where you can't get to family as easily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    was homeless for a week when i was 14 and that was bad enough but if i became homeless again i don't think i'd manage it, i would probably chain a few rocks around me and jump in the liffey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Dodd wrote: »
    So you posted to say what.?
    Bar the I am great stuff.

    What's I am great about it you knob !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    Get into a life of crime. Could be profitable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Lot of Bear Grylls types waving their mickeys around in here.

    Nobody interested in your student stories, least of all the genuine homeless I would imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    stovelid wrote: »
    Lot of Bear Grylls types waving their mickeys around in here.

    Nobody interested in your student stories, least of all the genuine homeless I would imagine.

    Why don't you offer a valid explanation on how you would cope on being homeless, instead of picking apart peoples posts?

    First thing I would do is get down to the social welfare, then get on the housing list pronto. I'd say a mate would put me up for a while too and in the most extreme circumstance I would stay with a member of the family.

    Most people that are homeless aren't as lucky to have the above.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    stovelid wrote: »
    Nobody interested in your student stories, least of all the genuine homeless I would imagine.

    I guess it's fortunate then that the thread isn't "Tell your student stories to a homeless man".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Why don't you offer a valid explanation on how you would cope on being homeless:(

    Because I'm not homeless, thankfully.

    Therefore I would rather not blow voluminous amounts of fanciful air out of my arse about it as I don't know how I would deal with it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    stovelid wrote: »
    Because I'm not homeless, thankfully.

    Therefore I would rather not blow voluminous amounts of fanciful air out of my arse about it as I don't know how I would deal with it.

    The thread is titled so that people understand that is IF you became homeless, how would you cope?

    You clearly know better than anyone here judging by your "contributions" so far.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    You clearly know better than anyone here judging by your "contributions" so far.

    As the thread doesn't appear to be teeming with homeless people offering genuine insight, I would know as little as anybody else - thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    if I became homeless I would just build a house simples


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    what is homeless, what are the requirements which would have you labeled as homeless,

    what if the person was on the dole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    what is homeless, what are the requirements which would have you labeled as homeless,

    what if the person was on the dole.

    AFAIK you need an address to claim social welfare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭eth0


    If I was homeless I'd be happy that just by existing I'd be making people up to their eyes in overpriced Tiger era mortgages feel like they're getting value for money. Despite the abundance of unoccupied houses I wouldn't be allowed near


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Isard


    Terrible. My home is the place where I can hide from the world, where I feel absolutely safe, relaxed... happy. I didn't always value it but now I understand there's nothing like it. Being homeless... Terrible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    I was homeless and living on the streets from December 2003-February 2004.

    I was going through a bad time with addiction, and ended up on the streets.

    I lived most of the time in Pearse Street Train station. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Thankfully I got myself sorted out and have a family/job etc.

    I work a soup/blanket run every few weeks, which is rewarding in itself. Some of the lads on the streets are gas craic, giving out to us if we don't have some fruit for them. How they keep their spirits up I will never know, I couldn't do it.

    It really was the bleakest time of my life and I wish that we had a better system in place to get these people of the streets and to help them with whatever issues they have.

    Sorry if this is all over the place, I'm typing this while in work, with the boss here;)


    Get back to work bucko or you might find yourself back on the streets again:) fair play though, good to hear of real experiences of being homeless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Giselle wrote: »
    AFAIK you need an address to claim social welfare.

    but if you were signing on before you became homeless you could just keep collecting, or has this changed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    but if you were signing on before you became homeless you could just keep collecting, or has this changed.

    Not sure, but I think they need an address for the file in case inspectors need it. Could be wrong, I'm no expert.


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