Planet Dinosaur

Adam Khor · 29-09-2011 11:55pm

Kess73 wrote: »

Yep they were very cute.:)

As soon as I saw them my mind went to Jim Lawson's Paleo:Loner series. It just seemed a rip off of that for me. In the early part of the Lawson strip, the mother T-Rex and cute younglings come across a fresh kill and there are two male Rexes there. The female fights the males and kills one of them by biting the neck and shaking. The scene with the female Majung and young was very similar.

TBH there's really not a lot to do when ur main characters are giant theropods.

(Although Bob Bakker did have Utahraptors playing in the snow)

Allosaur · 30-09-2011 8:25am

Adam Khor wrote: »

TBH there's really not a lot to do when ur main characters are giant theropods. (Although Bob Bakker did have Utahraptors playing in the snow)

Although making snow angels proved a little difficult.....

Kess73 · 30-09-2011 10:55am

Adam Khor wrote: »

TBH there's really not a lot to do when ur main characters are giant theropods. (Although Bob Bakker did have Utahraptors playing in the snow)

Well I would expect a show which made a lot of claims of how certain things were fact to do more than rip off a comic strip

At least in Dino Gangs Currie's view was not presented as fact and the opposing views were aired. Wednesday's Planet Dinosaur was just regurgitating what was suggested in Dino Gangs, but went a step further in stating it was fact.

Just thought that when that slapdash approach to the scientific side of things was coupled to sub standard cgi that it made for poor viewing on a number of levels.

Allosaur · 30-09-2011 12:00pm

Kess73 wrote: »

Well I would expect a show which made a lot of claims of how certain things were fact to do more than rip off a comic strip

At least in Dino Gangs Currie's view was not presented as fact and the opposing views were aired. Wednesday's Planet Dinosaur was just regurgitating what was suggested in Dino Gangs, but went a step further in stating it was fact.

Just thought that when that slapdash approach to the scientific side of things was coupled to sub standard cgi that it made for poor viewing on a number of levels.

At least they (the BBC) didn't concentrate on T.rex as a species. Much as I love my rexs, it gets a leeetle friggen repetitive when you'veard about the "jaws...teeth..blah...crunch..huge...biggest..blah" for the 15 millionth time. Oh, and early / mid cretatious NW America?
That's prime Utah Raptor territory, but they didn't go there either. (thank jeebus) Because I don't think I could stand seeing bloody Dromaeosaur.

And saving grace #15 has to be John Hurt.
Because one day I will hunt down that "Big Voice Guy" and do sometyhing unplesent, possibly involving a chicken, a length of rubber band, and a half jar of marmite.

Galvasean · 30-09-2011 1:24pm

Allosaur wrote: »

That's prime Utah Raptor territory, but they didn't go there either. (thank jeebus) Because I don't think I could stand seeing bloody Dromaeosaur.

Since Utahraptor is getting a revamp in real life at the moment it would have been foolhardy to include it since any restoration they made would become outdated very soon.

Allosaur · 30-09-2011 1:33pm

You know who I mean by "Big voice guy" yes?

ANd whats with the raptor reboot? I hadent heard of that..

Galvasean · 30-09-2011 1:38pm

Allosaur wrote: »

You know who I mean by "Big voice guy" yes?

I'm guessing it's that twat from Jurassic Fight Club?

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ANd whats with the raptor reboot? I hadent heard of that..[/QUOTE]

Apparently a new specimen has been discovered which was much larger and more robust than previously imagined. Hasn't been published yet though.

According to Wikipedia Planet Dinosaur Episode 4 'Fight For Life' also features 'Predator X' and Kimmerosaurus.

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Allosaur · 30-09-2011 2:01pm

Galvasean wrote: »

I'm guessing it's that twat from Jurassic Fight Club?

Not Dinosaur George. The narrator. The guy that goes "AND THIS TIE IT'S PERSONAL!!!" or somesuch.

Apparently a new specimen has been discovered which was much larger and more robust than previously imagined. Hasn't been published yet though.

Time till it gets "Hornerized" into a juvenile Albertasaurus....?
Anyone?

Kess73 · 02-10-2011 12:24pm

Galvasean wrote: »

I'm guessing it's that twat from Jurassic Fight Club?

ANd whats with the raptor reboot? I hadent heard of that..
Apparently a new specimen has been discovered which was much larger and more robust than previously imagined. Hasn't been published yet though.

According to Wikipedia Planet Dinosaur Episode 4 'Fight For Life' also features 'Predator X' and Kimmerosaurus.

I thought there was nothing more than a partial skull and two or three vertebrae ever found of Kimmerosaurus?

Methinks there could be another episode loaded with "facts" next Wednesday.

Galvasean · 02-10-2011 1:26pm

Most of what we know of Kimmerosaurus is based on the closely related Colymbosaurus. In fact, many believe them to be one in the same.

fret_wimp2 · 02-10-2011 3:57pm

anyone know where to find wallpapers from this series? I have done a few searches but cant find any. i think they would make awesome wallpapers for a desktop!

Allosaur · 03-10-2011 10:49am

Ok, so do we think they forsook sound scientific theory for high production cost and "wizz-bang!" factor?

I honestly don't understand that. - Dinosaurs are a done deal. You make anything about them and it sells. Always will.

Proof?

Ask any 5 year old boy about Dinosaurs...

BostonB · 03-10-2011 10:54am

Smellysaurous always good for a laugh....

Allosaur · 03-10-2011 11:25am

BostonB wrote: »

Smellysaurous always good for a laugh....

Most 5 year old boys can spell Tyrannosaurus rex, Triceratops, and even Pachycephalosaurus before "elephant", "Bananna" and in extreme cases "Mammy".

Case in point?

Galvasean....:D

BostonB · 03-10-2011 11:46am

Very true.

Galvasean · 03-10-2011 12:05pm

fret_wimp2 wrote: »

anyone know where to find wallpapers from this series? I have done a few searches but cant find any. i think they would make awesome wallpapers for a desktop!

They seem hard to find. Here is a decent one of Spinosaurus though:
http://www.google.ie/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.imgcrave.com/u/UO6ah.jpg&sa=X&ei=kpaJToPCDIuo8AOj8PUz&ved=0CAoQ8wc4Nw&usg=AFQjCNEdO-QhjInUgcEYsNxGpiLb78vtGQ

Allosaur wrote: »

Ok, so do we think they forsook sound scientific theory for high production cost and "wizz-bang!" factor?

I honestly don't understand that. - Dinosaurs are a done deal. You make anything about them and it sells. Always will.

Proof?

Ask any 5 year old boy about Dinosaurs...

Just out of curiosity, how do you rate the original Walking With Dinosaurs series?

Allosaur · 03-10-2011 12:10pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, how do you rate the original Walking With Dinosaurs series?

For it's time? Pretty good.

Galvasean · 03-10-2011 12:21pm

Allosaur wrote: »

For it's time? Pretty good.

I only asked as I was wondering id you're aware of all of the inaccuracies in that programme. It's the most successful dino-mmentary of all time, but some of the science in it was very off (and not just outdated, but wrong for the sake of coolness).
For example, there is virtually no way Postosuchus urinated in the way it did in WWD. The makers would have been aware of this, but included it anyway for the wow factor.

Allosaur · 03-10-2011 12:27pm

Galvasean wrote: »

I only asked as I was wondering id you're aware of all of the inaccuracies in that programme. It's the most successful dino-mmentary of all time, but some of the science in it was very off (and not just outdated, but wrong for the sake of coolness).
For example, there is virtually no way Postosuchus urinated in the way it did in WWD. The makers would have been aware of this, but included it anyway for the wow factor.

I know, As I said pretty good. But when compared to the looney tunes Dinosaur Revolution, or JFC, or for crying out loud Anything with Nigel Marvin in it (Except for that Primeval episode where a Giga ate him. I reeellyyy liked that one). It looks like a David Attenborough special.

Allosaur · 03-10-2011 12:39pm

To be honest, WWD had no real precedent (not that I can find anyhow) where Dinos were treated like still living creatures and portrayed in a life environment ala your usual natural history programs. Pre WWD you had a lot of older less "Natural" and more "History" type treatment.
WWD broke that mold to a certain extent, and became the yard stick for subsequent dino docs.
It was also developed at a time when Bakkers, Curries, Horners (spit) et. al. theories were becoming more and more widespread accepted. So it is kind of unfair to compare the newer stuff to them. After all they repeated WWDs mistakes.

Adam Khor · 03-10-2011 8:20pm

Ok, my two cents...

I have enjoyed it and think it's better than Dinosaur Revolution, I can´t help but to feel a little bit dissapointed at the end of every episode (I've seen three thus far).
Maybe it is because of the hybrid nature of the show- a cross between the "science-oriented" dinosaur shows we all grew up with, with a narrator explaining facts about fossils and the size charts and all, and the "wildlife documentary" approach made popular by WWD.
Because both things have to share limited time, the show feels kinda crammed at times, IMO, and there's not a lot of room for good storytelling like there was in WWD.

So despite its being outdated and what not, WWD I think is still better than the newer stuff. The storytelling was better, the animals were treated as if they were live animals, behaving naturally most of the time, and even, at times, the animation seemed more fluid in WWD than in the newer ones- in both Dinosaur Revolution and Planet Dinosaur there are parts where the creatures look very stiff and "plastic-y". Don´t get me wrong- the CG designs and textures and what not are obviously better in the new ones, but the movements of some the creatures (Saurosuchus in Dinosaur Revolution, Ouranosaurus and Edmontosaurus in Planet Dinosaur) leave a lot to be desired.

Or that's what I think

PS- Must admit though, the Edmontosaurus design in Planet Dinosaur is the only one I've seen that doesn´t look bloated and pitiful. The ones in March of the Dinosaur were terrible, poor guys

Galvasean · 05-10-2011 3:47pm

Don't forget guys, tonight at 8:30

My Planet Dinosaur book arrived today, currently being held at ransom in the post office though :mad:

Kess73 · 05-10-2011 10:34pm

Another meh episode for me.

The quality of the cgi was quite poor in places again tonight, and some of the animal movements were awful. Now poor CGI etc can be overlooked if the science bits contain new information or the storyline is engaging, but it failed on those counts for me as well.

Only one episode so far has left me thinking that I had not just wasted 30 minutes.

Galvasean · 06-10-2011 1:58pm

I really enjoyed the

Saurophaganax

cameo!

dlofnep · 06-10-2011 4:25pm

It was OK - I would prefer longer episodes, and more of a story linked into them

Galvasean · 07-10-2011 1:05am

Next episode is called new giants and features Mapusaurus and Argentinosaurus.
"This episode of the documentary series focuses on the new giants, the heavyweights of the dinosaur world. It is only in recent years that experts have unearthed the biggest dinosaurs that ever lived.

One monster eclipsed all others; more than seven times as heavy as diplodocus was the immense argentinosaurus - a single backbone was bigger than a human.

For years, these giants were considered immune to attack from any predator - until the discovery of mapusaurus, a new giant killer whose fate appeared to be inextricably linked to argentinosaurus."

Kess73 · 07-10-2011 11:56am

Galvasean wrote: »

Next episode is called new giants and features Mapusaurus and Argentinosaurus.
"This episode of the documentary series focuses on the new giants, the heavyweights of the dinosaur world. It is only in recent years that experts have unearthed the biggest dinosaurs that ever lived.

One monster eclipsed all others; more than seven times as heavy as diplodocus was the immense argentinosaurus - a single backbone was bigger than a human.

For years, these giants were considered immune to attack from any predator - until the discovery of mapusaurus, a new giant killer whose fate appeared to be inextricably linked to argentinosaurus."

I expect to see Currie namechecked in the credits then.

Adam Khor · 07-10-2011 6:11pm

Galvasean wrote: »

For years, these giants were considered immune to attack from any predator - until the discovery of mapusaurus, a new giant killer whose fate appeared to be inextricably linked to argentinosaurus."

I don´t buy that last part- Giganotosaurus was already known and even tho they didn´t actually coexist, everyone already imagined Giganotosaurus hunting Argentinosaurus

Allosaur · 10-10-2011 9:56am

Adam Khor wrote: »

I don´t buy that last part- Giganotosaurus was already known and even tho they didn´t actually coexist, everyone already imagined Giganotosaurus hunting Argentinosaurus

That would be he fault of the HOrizon program giants of patagonia - or some such.

The one where they redressed an allosaur for the part of Giga.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JixTdW6qywY

Galvasean · 10-10-2011 11:36am

And Diplodocus as Argentinosaurus...

Kess73 · 13-10-2011 12:51pm

No comments about last night?

Thought it was better than the week before. Seems to be an every second one pattern forming for me in terms of episodes I like.:D

I thought that again the time constraints of the show hampered it, and that it was a bit too basic in terms of information, but it was an enjoyable dino fluff piece imho, and did not have me looking at my watch or checking what was on elsewhere.

BostonB · 13-10-2011 3:05pm

THe kids loved it. I thought it was good too. That said I know nothing about dino's.

Rubecula · 13-10-2011 3:21pm

I missed last night's episode.

Galvasean · 13-10-2011 7:09pm

Rubecula wrote: »

I missed last night's episode.

Me too. Luckily my ever amazing girlfriend taped it for me

Speaking of which, the Planet dinosaur book she bought me arrived yesterday. Had a bit of a read of it today. Interestingly, the book freely admits that Sinornithosaurus was probably not venemous and there is very little support or evidence for the theory.
There is also no mention of Saurophaganax. They do however show a picture of it as depicted in the show but it is labeled as 'Allosaurus fragilis.

dlofnep · 13-10-2011 8:20pm

You can download it on the pirate bay

Just finished watching it there. Quite liked this episode. Wished they were longer though

Adam Khor · 13-10-2011 8:29pm

dlofnep wrote: »

You can download it on the pirate bay Just finished watching it there. Quite liked this episode. Wished they were longer though

That's exactly what I've been doing

All the episodes are there now. I'm downloading the last one right now.

And same, I wish they were longer.

Allosaur · 14-10-2011 3:20pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Me too. Luckily my ever amazing girlfriend taped it for me
Speaking of which, the Planet dinosaur book she bought me arrived yesterday. Had a bit of a read of it today. Interestingly, the book freely admits that Sinornithosaurus was probably not venemous and there is very little support or evidence for the theory.
There is also no mention of Saurophaganax. They do however show a picture of it as depicted in the show but it is labeled as 'Allosaurus fragilis.

There is some debate (and I agree) that Saurophaganax was actually just a big arsed Allosaur

Galvasean · 14-10-2011 3:22pm

Allosaur wrote: »

There is some debate (and I agree) that Saurophaganax was actuallyjust a big arsed Allosaur

Oh yes indeed. I would say it actually is. Same with Epanterias. I'm conflicted as I do feel there are far more dinosaur genus names than should be considered valid. However, i'd hate to see us lose acool name like Saurophaganax.

Adam Khor · 14-10-2011 7:17pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Oh yes indeed. I would say it actually is. Same with Epanterias. I'm conflicted as I do feel there are far more dinosaur genus names than should be considered valid. However, i'd hate to see us lose acool name like Saurophaganax.

Agreed 100%. Saurophaganax sounds awesome, almost like the name of a dragon or something.

Allosaur · 18-10-2011 1:02pm

Adam Khor wrote: »

Agreed 100%. Saurophaganax sounds awesome, almost like the name of a dragon or something.

But look on the bright side, it makes the Allosaur 23% more awesome.:D

Galvasean · 18-10-2011 9:28pm

Or Epanterias whose 30% more awesome. Wouldn't mind so much if we lost the name Epanterias as it would be replaced with the much cooler Allosaurus maximus! :cool:

Adam Khor · 18-10-2011 11:59pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Or Epanterias whose 30% more awesome. Wouldn't mind so much if we lost the name Epanterias as it would be replaced with the much cooler Allosaurus maximus! :cool:

Speaking of names, it seems that Bambiraptor will be no more, as it seems to be a juvenile Saurornitholestes after all. I won´t miss the name, honestly- naming a raptor after Bambi always seemed to me like a joke. Like Ian Malcolm said, "give an apex predator what it deserves". Or something like that.

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