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Daniel Bryan Thread

  • 12-10-2011 4:33pm
    #1
    paddyismaddy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭


    is he still even with wwe :rolleyes:

    what is happening with him :confused: he is sd mitb winner and he is barely on sd or raw lately

    looks like vince and co dont know what to do with him such a shame


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  • #2
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Don't you know? He's currently set to main event Wrestlemania against whoever is the World Heavyweight Champion :rolleyes:


  • #3
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Yeah - WWE booking has really dropped the ball with him. I was shocked when he won MITB and was expecting a super push for him after it - But they demoted him pretty much to jobber status for Sin Cara.

    He's a great talent, and I've no idea what they are playing at. I wouldn't be surprised if they made him lose his MITB contract to another wrestler.


  • #4
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/frustrated-bryan-fires-back


  • #5
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    dlofnep wrote: »
    http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/frustrated-bryan-fires-back

    Could a heel turn be on the cards for him
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #6
    Electric Red
    Registered Users Posts: 37 ✭Electric Red


    Easily one of the best wrestlers on the cards at Raw or SD, can make anyone look good in a match, which I think was the original reason they had him work with Sin Cara originally. His match with Wade at Summerslam also warrants praise I think and shows how versatile he is. I don't care if he's a babyface or a heel, once wwe pick a direction and give him the push he needs. He was already getting over with the fans so all they need to do is book him right...surely they couldnt mess it up?


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  • #7
    Big Daddy Cool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Big Daddy Cool


    ive a feeling vince has forgot he won MITB, could be a good thing to, imagine the shock on vinces face when he walks out at mania with the briefcase :D


  • #8
    Big Daddy Cool
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Big Daddy Cool


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Could a heel turn be on the cards for him

    he's been forgotton about that much, they cant remember if its daniel br-I-an or br-Y-an :rolleyes:


  • #9
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,602 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I think the MITB win was cause on the night, they were on a "Please the smarks" high, with that and Punk. I think they booked the win for the shock factor but didn't have any long term plans and thats showing now.


  • #10
    starviewadams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Hopefully he turns heel and cashes it in unexpectedly before Mania,but the way he's going now I could see him dropping the briefcase to Cody or Wade or Christian.

    Don't understand why they don't just let him wrestle every week on SD or Raw?he never dissappoints in the ring.


  • #11
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    he went over Heath Slater CLEAN on NXT last week, he is been pushed. :)


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  • #12
    starviewadams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    I've been watching his matches from NXT,but I doubt that the majority of casual WWE fans have been.

    Was very cool that he used the Regal Stretch to submit Slater.


  • #13
    Horsebox9000
    Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭Horsebox9000


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    he went over Heath Slater CLEAN on NXT last week, he is been pushed. :)

    Haha, best post I have read all day! :D


  • #14
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    WWE really could've done with not having MITB this year -- or at least just one. Del Rio's mucked up Punk/Cena's plans and DB....well he's not doing the best!


  • #15
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Could a heel turn be on the cards for him

    I can see them playing it up where he becomes frustrated with his lack of airtime and feels that he's not been shown the respect he deserves. Have him put the blame on the fans for this and you have a heel turn.


  • #16
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    In fairness lads what do expect given who and what WWE push?
    jaykhunter wrote: »
    WWE really could've done with not having MITB this year -- or at least just one. Del Rio's mucked up Punk/Cena's plans and DB....well he's not doing the best!

    Yeah titles and briefcases are lead weights in WWE. They just mean you end up jobbing. As Ive said before.


  • #17
    glenjamin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    I hope they keep him face. There's enough heels on the roster already which would be even harder for him to get repushed.


  • #18
    FreezeUp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭FreezeUp


    DB has always had his best foot forward as a heel in my opinion.


  • #19
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    From occupyraw

    raw959photo164.jpg

    Regal temping Bryan to the darkside


  • #20
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Source

    Lastly, the company has decided next year's Royal Rumble winner will be from the SmackDown brand.
    Instead of vying for the world heavyweight title at WrestleMania 28, the plans call for the Rumble winner to attain the championship at Elimination Chamber and defend it against Daniel Bryan—the holder of the SmackDown Money in the Bank briefcase—at the "showcase of the immortals."
    Unless the WWE is going to take a leap of faith on a rising star like Cody Rhodes, this seems to indicate the SmackDown superstar who will defend the title against Bryan at 'Mania will be a safe bet like Randy Orton.
    Coincidentally, a Daniel Bryan-Randy Orton matchup at WrestleMania 28 is already being advertised —directly or in a roundabout way—in e-mails sent from Sun Life Stadium (the site of the grand event) to early ticket holders.
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #21
    Dancor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    Id much rather he just randomly cashed it in. After the title match, his music hits adn the crowd go ballistic. They are doing a good job making people forget that he has the MITB.


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  • #22
    FreezeUp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭FreezeUp


    Orton vs Bryan could be a great match, with Bryan as the heel. I don't think the match has ever happened before has it? I'd like to see Bryan win, Orton has gone over in the last two Mania's where I don't think he should have...


  • #23
    Furious-Red
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Yea i think it would be great for him just to cash the case in on the night.
    E.g Orton vs Rhodes and Rhodes finally wins the big one then Daniel Bryan cashes it in setting up a new fresh rivalry


  • #24
    grames_bond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    Have Punk win the Title at TLC.....hang on to it - have the RR winner go for the SD title. Turn Bryan heel and we have Punk vs Bryan at WM 28!!

    awesome (never gonna happen but still....awesome)


  • #25
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Sorry to bump an old thread but do you WWE will go down the route of an actual DB Vs. Vince McMahon feud or it is just having heel Vince be against DB which will put him over more with the crowds, I was thinking Vince might cost DB his title match at Summerslam
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #26
    Manning3000
    Registered Users Posts: 264 ✭✭Manning3000


    Ya. Was thinking that today, we will then get him chasing the title again and we all know the chase is the best part. They should drag it out alittle


  • #27
    grames_bond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Sorry to bump an old thread but do you WWE will go down the route of an actual DB Vs. Vince McMahon feud or it is just having heel Vince be against DB which will put him over more with the crowds, I was thinking Vince might cost DB his title match at Summerslam

    Yet another Montreal screwjob rehash on the cards!? (seriously how many times have they used that storyline/ending since the actual incident)


  • #28
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,334 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    grames_bond wrote: »
    Yet another Montreal screwjob rehash on the cards!? (seriously how many times have they used that storyline/ending since the actual incident)
    If it happened more then three months ago it never happened!!1


  • #29
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    grames_bond wrote: »
    Yet another Montreal screwjob rehash on the cards!? (seriously how many times have they used that storyline/ending since the actual incident)

    Vince better not raise his eyebrow this time that made the one in 1998 with Rocky so F'N obvious


  • #30
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    How things have changed.



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  • #31
    bigred100
    Registered Users Posts: 496 ✭✭bigred100


    "Oh, and have a good catchphrase"

    That's why Miz was a pro!


  • #32
    jaykhunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    DM-ICE wrote: »
    How things have changed.

    The difference is incredible. I assume Bryan intentionally had this start-from-scratch approach (clean shaven, messed his words etc) to show how much he's improved (even his ROH promos were far better) but I had no idea he was as charismatic as he is right now! Blown away by it.

    Wow, some justice really is done - Bryan's the hottest face in all of wrestling, main eventing with Cena for the WWE title, and The Miz is hosting SummerSlam. A great time to be a wrestling fan, where talent prevails.


  • #33
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I got the impression he wasn't actually aware of what Miz was going to say so it was uncomfortable for him to literally be thrown in at the deep end, Miz knew his role, Bryan had to come up with his stuff on the spot (I might be wrong!).

    Bryan did some really good stuff on NXT itself with Cole and his promo the week after elimination (in the summerslam thread), the difference was it looked like he knew what was planned ahead of time so had a chance to think about what he would say.


    I have read they did a lot of things on NXT specifically to catch the NXT rookies off guard and its why it was a car crash. The Pros would have known the plans (In a later series there is a great bit where Bryan was Batemans pro they asked the pros and rookies a question to see if they came up with the same answer, it was obvious Bryan let Batman in on the nights plans and had come up with matching answers).


  • #34
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Looking back at some old threads and the opinions on Daniel Bryan/Brian Danielson are funny. Some didn't think he was up to anything at all, others were just delighted to see that he was being given a crack in WWE. Doubt many felt he would get to where he is today.

    I know I said (cannot find the post, I'm sure some smart arse will oblige ;)) that I would eat a piece of clothing if he ever made it to world/wwe champion. This despite the fact that I have been an all round mark for the guy since I first saw him almost 10 years ago. I always felt he would be the company workhorse, but would never get that high on the card.

    I can still say I am sonewhat shocked at how well he has done. Not due to his talent, I just felt WWE would not get behind him to the level that they have.

    Though I will point out that I posted in 2009 that I think he could main event at WM 30. Opponent might be wrong, but main eventing that PPV may be spot on.

    CM Punk is using the "Best In The World" moniker at the moment, but that's Dragons mantle , good and all as Punk is.


  • #35
    MitchKoobski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    gimmick wrote: »
    I know I said (cannot find the post, I'm sure some smart arse will oblige ;)) that I would eat a piece of clothing if he ever made it to world/wwe champion. This despite the fact that I have been an all round mark for the guy since I first saw him almost 10 years ago.
    We'll take that on a nice plate with a video as proof thanks!


  • #36
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


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    Ah!

    WWE was a completely different place 5 years ago with a locker room culture, administration and to be honest more stars to push who had a more conventional marketable look. WWE is the party that went through the most growth not Bryan.

    When WWE signed Bryan I just thought his personality wouldn't translate to large venues. The acclaimed acoustic artist who wouldn't make the main stage of the festival.


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  • #37
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,342 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    the Kane deal also did him wonders.

    he crossed over to a younger, more mainstream audience over that time as people engaged with an entertaining, funny, almost cartoon-like character. that has now been refined and he's now a serious performer whose brought those fans along with him, while still keeping the "smart" fans.

    without anger management, the beard and "Yes", who knows if he'd ever have translated to the main stage. but my God has he managed to build himself some momentum with whatever he was given.

    staggering.


  • #38
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    his booking for the most part since summerslam 2012 has been genius, he was always going to attract the hardcore smark followers but the hell no stuff opened him up to the kids and casuals

    kids love this kind of stuff

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBnbgusXTYw


  • #39
    smellmepower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭smellmepower


    The Yes/No stuff really was lightning in a bottle for him,doubt he'd have come as far as he has if he hadn't stole it off that MMA lad.Not a knock on his ability,but the normal WWE audience weren't that into him before it.

    The beard and the Kane skits really put his character over the top and established him too.


  • #40
    Diabhal Beag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    My prediction

    Flat out statement that he'd be a World Champ. Gis the lotto numbers plz Liz.

    This'll be a long one so be warned. Daniel Bryan's success is hands down my favourite ever thing in wrestling. There genuinely isn't anybody who I could think of who deserved his shot in the WWE as much as he did. The indies are less interesting without him. One man. Says a lot.

    Say what you will about Punk breaking the glass ceiling for indy guys and Rey breaking it for small guys but Punk didn't get the silly name change and Rey had been around for years at that stage. For me Daniel Bryan did a diving headbutt to that glass ceiling. He got the name change, was thrown in with a bunch of nobodies on NXT and was mentored by the Miz. To just overcome that is something, nevermind win a World title or make the YES! thing as much a part of the WWE as it is now.

    The novelty of seeing Bryan Danielson on Sky Sports for NXT was brilliant. His release was more talked about than anything else to do with the Nexus angle, and that says a lot. His return at Summerslam was amazing and I remember marking out on here like a little child at the time. It was a real predecessor for the shoot stuff they've squeezed in these days.

    Everybody who hadn't seen how good he was before saw it with his Miz and Ziggler feuds. It was the start of everybody getting on the Ziggler bandwagon too.

    Even when he won MITB he was definitely going to be the first guy to lose cashing in. Everybody was convinced. And then he won it and he turned heel. Even when WWE tried to bury him it only made him bigger. He did a great little promo after the post-Mania RAW. The anger management stuff was the best thing Kane was involved with in years.

    And here we are. He's in a feud with the McMahon's for ****sake. I'm really liking the way WWE are doing things these days and they've done a far better job with the Shield than anybody would've expected. They know in the back of their minds that they can't kill his buzz. He isn't a Ryder. No matter what happens he's the most likable guy in the company, the fans love him, he seems to have his head screwed on and has little to no heat ever and he can make anybody look good. He could wrestle gimmick's undigested (as of 21/08/2013) tie to a great match.

    I was delighted just to see him win the US Title and look at what he's done in less than 5 years. To see where his is now from watching his ROH World Title run is enough to keep you watching wrestling. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.


  • #41
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    He's just a guy that engages with everyone.

    The kids(and adults) love his antics, the Yes chants are just brilliant(can't wait for my next live event so I can take part) and the hardcore fans love what a brilliant worker he is. He has good matches every week and he's developed his character so much since first coming to the WWE and indeed since he started out in a school gym.

    Really did remind of Austin vs McMahon on Monday. He draws the same kind of reaction and is as universally loved as Austin(notwithstanding Austin's behavior away from the ring but this isn't the place for that) .

    Literally every match since he's come to the WWE that i've enjoyed has involved him. Speaks volumes.


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  • #42
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Diabhal Beag wrote: »
    My prediction

    Flat out statement that he'd be a World Champ. Gis the lotto numbers plz Liz.

    As i thought - some smart arse :D

    Good post, and I agree with everything you say on the matter. Was delighted when I saw him win at SS. Oddly, despite feeling a bit gutted, was more delighted to see him lose it so fast in the manner he did.

    Career wise, it will be looked back as a defining night. He had a near perfect match with the injured franchise player of the WWE in which we went over, clean without using his traditional finisher. Not many have had that honour. Had a tangle with the self proclaimed franchise player and has been catapulted into a money angle which will be top of the card possibly until Wrestlemania. The crowd absolutely love him, he has a brooding charisma about him and he is shagging a Bella.

    its all come up Milhouse for American Dragon.


  • #43
    Moneymaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    I went through that thread, I found these posts enjoyable.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66693479&postcount=300

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=66695631&postcount=311


  • #44
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    Bryan has the biggest fan base currently in the WWE. Cena is only really over with the kids and hated by the smarks. Punk and Ortan loved by smarks not so much by kids. Bryan can going from rapping on the JBL and Cole show to cutting great promos. He is over with smark/ adults and children.


  • #45
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    I agree with Jester252 we should start the Daniel Bryan backlash.


  • #46
    gimmick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    Jester252 wrote: »
    Bryan has the biggest fan base currently in the WWE. Cena is only really over with the kids and hated by the smarks. Punk and Ortan loved by smarks not so much by kids. Bryan can going from rapping on the JBL and Cole show to cutting great promos. He is over with smark/ adults and children.

    Orton is over with no one tbh.


  • #47
    Jester252
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Jester252


    gimmick wrote: »
    Orton is over with no one tbh.

    He's over with Vinny Mac


  • #48
    Mr.Nice Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    smellmepower wrote:
    The Yes/No stuff really was lightning in a bottle for him,doubt he'd have come as far as he has if he hadn't stole it off that MMA lad.Not a knock on his ability,but the normal WWE audience weren't that into him before it.

    The beard and the Kane skits really put his character over the top and established him too.

    I agree with you on the Yes thing. I think this is what has got him where he is. It's been going on over a year now and fans are still doing it. I find it very entertaining myself and I don't think it will get old as the 'What' stuff did, but others might disagree on that.

    I think the fact that Hunter appears to have quite a bit more influence on Vince could also be a factor in wrestlers getting more credit, though maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

    I never would have thought he'd make it this far and I'm glad he proved me wrong on that score. I think the gimmick, though, has been a huge factor. In order to make it in WWE you need that 'E' element and I can't actually recall an entertaining promo he did in WWE besides the back and forth one with Michael Cole which I think was on NXT. The stuff with AJ when he had the belt didn't get him over, either. It was that Wrestlemania response before his 18 second match with Sheamus that made Vince sit up and take notice imo. That and the night after and all the fans doing the chanting.


  • #49
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    A clip from 2008 about Bryan Danielson's WWE tryout with two respected columnists Wade Keller and Bruce Mitchell:


    The ROH promo they briefly reference:



  • #50
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    I've never seen that retina-promo, and I have to say, it is extremely compelling stuff.


  • #51
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭cena


    I have never been a fan of brain.


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