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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Leftist wrote: »
    There was some sally on here a few weeks ago ballin over her handbag getting robbed from a parked car in Dublin city, scum this, scum that. No idea what scum is. Try needy, poor and marganilised.

    If you steal a handbag from a car you are a scumbag. Not 'needy, poor or marginalised' but . . .. Scumbag.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Leftist wrote: »
    Seems fair.

    The victim who was fully aware of the situation, who knows the full shtory, not some furious internet posters looking for a bogey man, one day it's the polish, the next it's gays, now it's the welfare class, any excuse to blame someone else and get outraged.

    There was some sally on here a few weeks ago ballin over her handbag getting robbed from a parked car in Dublin city, scum this, scum that. No idea what scum is. Try needy, poor and marganilised.
    Welfare Class dripping with jewellery and new clothes carrying six packs and taking everything they can.Overweight full of Dirty habits cursing and swearing on the streets i have little sympathy for them..See them all the time in dublin City Centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭Corvo


    paddyandy wrote: »
    Welfare Class dripping with jewellery and new clothes carrying six packs and taking everything they can.Overweight full of Dirty habits cursing and swearing on the streets i have little sympathy for them..See them all the time in dublin City Centre.

    Now thats a description! ;)

    Throw in "inbred" though. Thats always a good'un when describing them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leftist wrote: »
    Seems fair.

    The victim who was fully aware of the situation, who knows the full shtory, not some furious internet posters looking for a bogey man, one day it's the polish, the next it's gays, now it's the welfare class, any excuse to blame someone else and get outraged.

    There was some sally on here a few weeks ago ballin over her handbag getting robbed from a parked car in Dublin city, scum this, scum that. No idea what scum is. Try needy, poor and marganilised.

    Ah! Im needy poor and marginalised so i need to trounce on someones head and kick all of his teeth in. Doesnt really matter that he is an old man and cant really fight back.... its the way i was brought up man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    listermint wrote: »
    Its Limerick.... Those little gob****es would be back around at his door. Or their families.


    Thats how it goes.

    Compassion my arse..



    Agreed, ...intimidation induced plea for compassion, makes me sick, scumbags probably had a couple of years before it got to court to drill into him that they'd torture him and anyone connected with him if they went down. That is how it works.....can't these fcuking judges read between the lines.

    Should've given the bstards 10 years each, and made the families pay for the ould fellas new accommodation elsewhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Feckin Limerick, why can't it be more like the sprawling peaceful metropolis of Dublin :rolleyes:
    that's how what goes? you have personal experience with this kind of situation do you?

    and it's limerick city that has a reputation, this is limerick county, but sure let's just make assumptions all over the place shall we.
    The lads are both early 20's, the teenagers were witnesses.

    Do you read what gets you irate or are you just set off by keywords like "Limerick"?

    Limerick has nothing to do with it really. I was making a jest on the fact that limerick has a reputation. But other posters are clambering to this rather than looking at the real issue are hand.

    These 2 jaws are known thugs locally, Why the hell would an OAP go up against them after they already kicked the face off him.

    Its clear that anyone involved with the case felt intimidated limerick or not. These 2 tools could have been from the bog of allen for all i care, Whatever the old man said in court shouldnt stand and the judge should have dealt with them properly.

    Typical though you see them strolling up to court hard jaws sticking their fingers up at everyone and laughing all they way back out again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Morlar wrote: »
    If you steal a handbag from a car you are a scumbag. Not 'needy, poor or marginalised' but . . .. Scumbag.

    Nah, it's only a purse, up to people not to be leaving valuables in sights.

    Thiefs aren't scum. Rapists are scum. Bit of realism here please, infact it's more obscene the more I think about it.
    paddyandy wrote: »
    Welfare Class dripping with jewellery and new clothes carrying six packs and taking everything they can.Overweight full of Dirty habits cursing and swearing on the streets i have little sympathy for them..See them all the time in dublin City Centre.

    Major generalisation there but what do you expect from the daily mail brigade. 'they're all the same' and 'what about us poor middle class white people?' is the slogan around here it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, it's only a purse, up to people not to be leaving valuables in sights.

    Thiefs aren't scum. Rapists are scum.

    I am surprised Rapists are not just 'romantically disadvantaged' according to your fcuked up in the head twisted world view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Leftist wrote: »
    Seems fair.

    The victim who was fully aware of the situation, who knows the full shtory, not some furious internet posters looking for a bogey man, one day it's the polish, the next it's gays, now it's the welfare class, any excuse to blame someone else and get outraged.

    Polish and gays aren't going around beating up vulnerable old people to get their jollies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Morlar wrote: »
    I am surprised Rapists are not just 'romantically disadvantaged' according to your fcuked up in the head twisted world view.

    Romantically disadvantaged is quite good. Fair play.

    If you categorise thiefs and rapists as scum you are basically categorising them in the same bracket.

    It's ridiculous and ignorant. A rape is one of the most vile crimes commitable if not the vilest, robbing some clown's purse from a car to buy heroin to stop yourself from being sick is slightly different.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭leggit


    What sort of message is this?

    Kick an old man half to death and walk away scot free??? It shouldn't matter that the old man said to be lenient. These scumbags should be punished severely and the parents of the witnesses should be ashamed of themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, it's only a purse, up to people not to be leaving valuables in sights.

    Thiefs aren't scum. Rapists are scum. Bit of realism here please, infact it's more obscene the more I think about it.



    Major generalisation there but what do you expect from the daily mail brigade. 'they're all the same' and 'what about us poor middle class white people?' is the slogan around here it seems.

    Sorry mate but anyone who goes around purposefully to make another persons life worse of is a scumbag.

    Whos to know that purse didnt have someones months pay in it. SCUMBAG. just because someone leaves something unattended its free game is it ?

    We have social welfare for these people the highest social welfare in Europe and yet you say its okay to steal because they are marginalised. Get real.

    Its about morality or the lack there off. Scumbags dont have it and have no conscience either .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    listermint wrote: »
    Sorry mate but anyone who goes around purposefully to make another persons life worse of is a scumbag.

    Whos to know that purse didnt have someones months pay in it. SCUMBAG. just because someone leaves something unattended its free game is it ?

    We have social welfare for these people the highest social welfare in Europe and yet you say its okay to steal because they are marginalised. Get real.

    Its about morality or the lack there off. Scumbags dont have it and have no conscience either .

    He obviously wants a scumbag grading system of 1 to 10, but there's no point in anyone wasting valuable time on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    listermint wrote: »
    Sorry mate but anyone who goes around purposefully to make another persons life worse of is a scumbag.

    Whos to know that purse didnt have someones months pay in it. SCUMBAG. just because someone leaves something unattended its free game is it ?

    We have social welfare for these people the highest social welfare in Europe and yet you say its okay to steal because they are marginalised. Get real.

    Its about morality or the lack there off. Scumbags dont have it and have no conscience either .
    Nah, disagree with that thesis tbh. If you want to clasify everyone who commits a crime as scumbag then that's your buzz. Couldn't be less arsed trying to change it. Refusing to understand something won't make it go away and only frustrates you.

    Robbing someone's purse is not going out of their way to make someone's else life worse either, it's a means to gain quick cash in order to pay off a debt or pay for drugs, most like that he thief is physically addicted to.
    I'd ganer most of the thiefs like this are addicts, the only solution to addicts is long term social regeneration. Not 'locking them all up'. :D sorry, just laughing at the stupidity of the notion tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, disagree with that thesis tbh. If you want to clasify everyone who commits a crime as scumbag then that's your buzz. Couldn't be less arsed trying to change it. Refusing to understand something won't make it go away and only frustrates you.

    Robbing someone's purse is not going out of their way to make someone's else life worse either, it's a means to gain quick cash in order to pay off a debt or pay for drugs, most like that he thief is physically addicted to.
    I'd ganer most of the thiefs like this are addicts, the only solution to addicts is long term social regeneration. Not 'locking them all up'. :D sorry, just laughing at the stupidity of the notion tbh.

    So if one comes up to your vehicle and takes your stereo and phone say, you realise its a crime, but you dont blame them, you actually understand why they did it? You wouldnt call them a scumbag?

    I'm trying to understand what your saying, but its very hard when I (like many others here I'd bet) have been subject to such behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leftist wrote: »
    Nah, disagree with that thesis tbh. If you want to clasify everyone who commits a crime as scumbag then that's your buzz. Couldn't be less arsed trying to change it. Refusing to understand something won't make it go away and only frustrates you.

    Robbing someone's purse is not going out of their way to make someone's else life worse either, it's a means to gain quick cash in order to pay off a debt or pay for drugs, most like that he thief is physically addicted to.
    I'd ganer most of the thiefs like this are addicts, the only solution to addicts is long term social regeneration. Not 'locking them all up'. :D sorry, just laughing at the stupidity of the notion tbh.

    Right so back to the original case in the first post, These lads kicked the head in of this oul lad for what exactly? Drugs? - Em no Money ? - Em no. Marginally disaffected? - Em no.

    Because he gave out to them for throwing bangers at passing cars. They decided to kick his head in.

    What would YOU call them ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    So if one comes up to your vehicle and takes your stereo and phone say, you realise its a crime, but you dont blame them, you actually understand why they did it? You wouldnt call them a scumbag?

    I'm trying to understand what your saying, but its very hard when I (like many others here I'd bet) have been subject to such behaviour.

    Yeah I'd understand why they did it. Obvious really. Doesn't mean I like them but I'm not up for labelling everyone who's commited a crime as scum. Seems daft really.

    Oh he's pure scum, he downloads films.

    Where does it stop?

    I've seen those addicts in town, they cycle about looking in cars, seen them hundreds of times, desperate people. They never just break up cars for no reason. That's more for stupid kids. So you shouldn't be leaving purses in sight. In the middle of north dublin city. bit obv really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    listermint wrote: »
    Right so back to the original case in the first post, These lads kicked the head in of this oul lad for what exactly? Drugs? - Em no Money ? - Em no. Marginally disaffected? - Em no.

    Because he gave out to them for throwing bangers at passing cars. They decided to kick his head in.

    What would YOU call them ????
    Scumbags to be fair. Battering auld lads is just not kosher but we don't know the whole story. Maybe the auld lad came in windmilling. Thought age = strength.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leftist wrote: »
    Scumbags to be fair. Battering auld lads is just not kosher but we don't know the whole story. Maybe the auld ladscame in windmilling. Thought age = strength.

    The whole story? are you for real? I cant tell at this stage.

    There was 1 OAP. Windmilling ? What movies are you watching.

    x2 Early twenties hard jaws attacked an OAP and kicked his teeth in leaving him in hospital for weeks when he was just picking his OAP wife from Bingo. She dies within the year of the incident. And your making excuses for them.

    Beggars belief mate. You have a sadistic grading system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Leftist wrote:
    So you shouldn't be leaving purses in sight. In the middle of north dublin city. bit obv really.

    I suppose you also think the old man shouldn't have let himself be seen outside the bingo hall?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Stark wrote: »
    I suppose you also think the old man shouldn't have let himself be seen outside the bingo hall?


    Did you not hear...he was windmilling! Death to him! Blast him with piss!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    listermint wrote: »
    The whole story? are you for real? I cant tell at this stage.

    There was 1 OAP. Windmilling ? What movies are you watching.

    x2 Early twenties hard jaws attacked an OAP and kicked his teeth in leaving him in hospital for weeks when he was just picking his OAP wife from Bingo. She dies within the year of the incident. And your making excuses for them.

    Beggars belief mate. You have a sadistic grading system.
    Stark wrote: »
    I suppose you also think the old man shouldn't have let himself be seen outside the bingo hall?
    Two auld ones here getting outraged for sheer buzz it gives.

    Nobody is denying that the kids are scumbags if they battered the auld lad for no reason.

    When I was a teenager years ago, I mean years ago, we were hanging about one friday night. one of the lads was taking the piss out of another in good humour (he was diong the reverse silence of the lambs) . Some auld lad marches over fists in the air ready to swing, immediatly goes for one of the young fellas, boom boom, the auld lad is dropped like a toilet seat.

    Who's to blame there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leftist wrote: »
    Two auld ones here getting outraged for sheer buzz it gives.

    Nobody is denying that the kids are scumbags if they battered the auld lad for no reason.

    When I was a teenager years ago, I mean years ago, we were hanging about one friday night. one of the lads was taking the piss out of another in good humour (he was diong the reverse silence of the lambs) . Some auld lad marches over fists in the air ready to swing, immediatly goes for one of the young fellas, boom boom, the auld lad is dropped like a toilet seat.

    Who's to blame there?

    Em... Yer Maaad You Are! Maaaadd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Leftist wrote: »

    If you categorise thiefs and rapists as scum you are basically categorising them in the same bracket.

    That's not true at all mate.

    Rapists are scum.

    Hitler was scum.

    But there's no way you can infer from that that I'm saying that rapists are as bad as Hitler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    listermint wrote: »
    Em... Yer Maaad You Are! Maaaadd
    Dodge the dilemma now is it? sad to see.

    bobbysands, What do you think about people who put bombs in public places and kill children? scum? worse than raping hitler?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,229 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    Leftist wrote: »

    bobbysands, What do you think about people who put bombs in public places and kill children?

    I fail to see the relevance of your question... but for the sake of any ambiguiety I think they're scum.

    Try learning to play the ball not the man mate, you're losing the argument when you make it personal.

    Now what do you think of my analogy above seeing as that's the substantive issue here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,676 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Leftist wrote: »
    Dodge the dilemma now is it? sad to see.

    bobbysands, What do you think about people who put bombs in public places and kill children? scum? worse than raping hitler?

    Dodge the question?

    You havent given me very much detail to go on. Between your colloquial uses of the english language and made up terms for the physical actions of people within your story I am not sure what went on.

    But it appears you take great pride in these stories and the fact that some ould lad got knocked out.

    Maybe if you were clearer on what happened i could answer your question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    listermint wrote: »
    Dodge the question?

    You havent given me very much detail to go on. Between your colloquial uses of the english language and made up terms for the physical actions of people within your story I am not sure what went on.

    But it appears you take great pride in these stories and the fact that some ould lad got knocked out.

    Maybe if you were clearer on what happened i could answer your question.

    Check it.

    Hanging out with some home dogs one Friday night, pub closing time, one of them is making a joke at another's expense, teasing you know? we all laugh.

    the old codger, bless his socks, takes offense to this in a drunken paranoid frenzy and motions to strike a youth, the youth strikes back, the old man is down.

    In this instance, who is the scumbag?

    A) the young man
    B) the old man
    C) bobby sands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Now what do you think of my analogy above seeing as that's the substantive issue here?

    You were saying that hitler was worse than rapists yeah?

    Good question.

    Because the crime of theft is almost as substantial.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    biko wrote: »
    They should give Garda army free reins for a months to clean up Limerick and Dublin, no questions asked.

    Range practice ;)


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