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  • 13-10-2011 01:09PM
    #1
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭


    This happens everyday here,

    The victim in this instance pleaded for leniency on the attackers. (probably afraid they would come back again. Little Runts

    As you can see from the photos in the article the little runts obviously dont give a flying f*


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/pensioner-pictured-after-beating-by-two-men-as-60-teenagers-stood-by-2904454.html
    THIS is the horrifically battered face of a grandfather who was viciously assaulted by two men as sixty teenagers watched.

    The attack they witnessed occurred when Michael Leech (71) waited to collect his wife from bingo.

    But many of their parents refused to allow the children to speak to gardai or identify the culprits who attacked Mr Leech outside the community centre in Athea, Co Limerick.

    Garda Gerard Griffin, who investigated the attack on Mr Leech in 2008, said that in his 32 years of service he had never come across anything like what he encountered following the assault.

    He had to visit the homes of some of the 60 witnesses five or six times to establish the truth as their parents refused to allow their children talk to him.

    The victim's wife, Kit, died a year after the assault and Mr Leech's family believe the assault on her husband accelerated her death.

    Commended

    Passing sentence on three of the young men involved in the incident in Limerick Circuit Criminal Court yesterday, Judge Carroll Moran praised the officers who investigated the attack.

    The judge said they had to be commended for a "very thorough investigation" in the circumstances where they were given very little co-operation and faced a stone wall from many who were present.

    Charlie Murphy (22), of Hillside Drive, Athea, Co Limerick, and Mark Murphy (21), of Lisselton, Co Kerry, avoided a jail sentence after their victim pleaded for leniency.

    Mr Leech, who moved to Athea 32 years ago from London, said he did not want to see them imprisoned. Both men -- who are not related -- pleaded guilty to assault causing harm to Mr Leech on October 31, 2008, and received suspended prison sentences of two years.

    A third man, Nigel Brouder (21), of Coole West, Athea, received the probation act after he admitted engaging in threatening and abusive behaviour during the same incident.

    Mr Leech received a broken nose, black eyes, bruising and lacerations to his face and lost teeth after he confronted teenagers throwing bangers at cars in Athea on the Halloween night.

    The judge said he was "badly beaten" in a street melee involving 60 youths on a dark night. He said the victim endured a serious beating and suffered serious consequential injuries, which could be seen from the photographs.

    He commended Mr Leech for his "extraordinary charitable position" to his assailants.

    Both attackers shook hands with their victim before leaving court.


    Good Job Judge! Good Job. What about imposing a sentence anyway.

    'Ah no its cool man we shook his hand n all' .......................


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  • #2
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Another point in the case for vigilantism! Hurrah! Maybe...........


  • #3
    godscop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭godscop


    Scumbags can do what they like in this country, just like the rich can. Ordinary Joe is the one who gets screwed by the system.


  • #4
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    listermint wrote: »
    This happens everyday here,

    The victim in this instance pleaded for leniency on the attackers. (probably afraid they would come back again. Little Runts

    As you can see from the photos in the article the little runts obviously dont give a flying f*

    Good Job Judge! Good Job. What about imposing a sentence anyway.

    'Ah no its cool man we shook his hand n all' .......................

    :confused: he asked the judge to go easy, why would you assume it's out of fear? it's his choice.


  • #5
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    godscop wrote: »
    Scumbags can do what they like in this country, just like the rich can. Ordinary Joe is the one who gets screwed by the system.


    Talk to Joe.........


  • #6
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Garda Gerard Griffin, who investigated the attack on Mr Leech in 2008, said that in his 32 years of service he had never come across anything like what he encountered following the assault.

    He had to visit the homes of some of the 60 witnesses five or six times to establish the truth as their parents refused to allow their children talk to him
    .

    Shame on the people in this community. They come across as a pack of cowards. I feel for the decent people in the area who are forced to put up with them.


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  • #7
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    The garda must be wondering why he even bothered
    All that work and little achieved


  • #8
    godscop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭godscop


    Fishooks12 wrote: »
    Talk to Joe.........

    im talking to your ould one


  • #9
    lastlaugh
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    Fair play to the Auld lad for showing some compassion.

    The two litlle Bastids could learn something from him.


  • #10
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    stupidusername wrote: »
    :confused: he asked the judge to go easy, why would you assume it's out of fear? it's his choice.

    Its Limerick.... Those little gob****es would be back around at his door. Or their families.


    Thats how it goes.

    Compassion my arse..


  • #11
    Monty Burnz
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    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Fair play to the Auld lad for showing some compassion.

    The two litlle Bastids could learn something from him.

    I doubt they will though. :(

    Their friends have all learned you can beat the tar out of vulnerable man and even if they manage to catch you, and then manage to convict you, you still walk away.


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  • #12
    vibe666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Rented Mule wrote: »
    .

    Shame on the people in this community. They come across as a pack of cowards. I feel for the decent people in the area who are forced to put up with them.
    i wouldn't worry about it, it doesn't sound like there are many (if any) 'decent' people in that area from the trouble the garda had finding out the truth of what happened.

    bring on the flaming torches and pitchforks.


  • #13
    Brendog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    Absolutely disgusting. Just another breed of scumbag.
    The investigating Gard was brilliant, the parents should be ashamed of themselves.


  • #14
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    listermint wrote: »
    Its Limerick.... Those little gob****es would be back around at his door. Or their families.


    Thats how it goes.

    Compassion my arse..


    Feckin Limerick, why can't it be more like the sprawling peaceful metropolis of Dublin :rolleyes:


  • #15
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    listermint wrote: »
    Its Limerick.... Those little gob****es would be back around at his door. Or their families.

    Thats how it goes.

    that's how what goes? you have personal experience with this kind of situation do you?

    and it's limerick city that has a reputation, this is limerick county, but sure let's just make assumptions all over the place shall we.


  • #16
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    listermint wrote: »
    Its Limerick.... Those little gob****es would be back around at his door. Or their families.


    Thats how it goes.

    Compassion my arse..

    The lads are both early 20's, the teenagers were witnesses.

    Do you read what gets you irate or are you just set off by keywords like "Limerick"?


  • #17
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Fair play to the Auld lad for showing some compassion.

    The two litlle Bastids could learn something from him.

    No, all they learn is they can beat the f*ck out of someone and get away with little consequence, free to do it again the next time someone confronts them.
    I'm no fan of the gardaí but I feel for them when they go through all the rigmarole of putting a charge to these c*nts only for it to lead to suspended sentences.
    This isn't an isolated case either...suspended sentences in assault cases are all too common... you get more time for crime agianst property (theft burglarly etc) as far as I can see...


  • #18
    joseph brand
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    godscop wrote: »
    Scumbags can do what they like in this country, just like the rich can. Ordinary Joe is the one who gets screwed by the system.

    The bottom and top levels of society are where the real scum are. (Not tarring them all with one brush). You wanna keep yourself in the middle. That's where it's at! :D

    From Robinson Crusoe:
    My father, a wise and grave man, gave me serious and excellent counsel against what he foresaw was my design. He called me one morning into his chamber, where he was confined by the gout, and expostulated very warmly with me upon this subject. He asked me what reasons, more than a mere wandering inclination, I had for leaving father's house and my native country, where I might be well introduced, and had a prospect of raising my fortune by application and industry, with a life of ease and pleasure. He told me it was men of desperate fortunes on one hand, or of aspiring, superior fortunes on the other, who went abroad upon adventures, to rise by enterprise, and make themselves famous in undertakings of a nature out of the common road; that these things were all either too far above me or too far below me; that mine was the middle state, or what might be called the upper station of low life, which he had found, by long experience, was the best state in the world, the most suited to human happiness, not exposed to the miseries and hardships, the labour and sufferings of the mechanic part of mankind, and not embarrassed with the pride, luxury, ambition, and envy of the upper part of mankind. He told me I might judge of the happiness of this state by this one thing-viz. that this was the state of life which all other people envied; that kings have frequently lamented the miserable consequence of being born to great things, and wished they had been placed in the middle of the two extremes, between the mean and the great; that the wise man gave his testimony to this, as the standard of felicity, when he prayed to have neither poverty nor riches.

    He bade me observe it, and I should always find that the calamities of life were shared among the upper and lower part of mankind, but that the middle station had the fewest disasters, and was not exposed to so many vicissitudes as the higher or lower part of mankind; nay, they were not subjected to so many distempers and uneasinesses, either of body or mind, as those were who, by vicious living, luxury, and extravagances on the one hand, or by hard labour, want of necessaries, and mean or insufficient diet on the other hand, bring distemper upon themselves by the natural consequences of their way of living; that the middle station of life was calculated for all kind of virtue and all kind of enjoyments; that peace and plenty were the handmaids of a middle fortune; that temperance, moderation, quietness, health, society, all agreeable diversions, and all desirable pleasures, were the blessings attending the middle station of life; that this way men went silently and smoothly through the world, and comfortably out of it, not embarrassed with the labours of the hands or of the head, not sold to a life of slavery for daily bread, nor harassed with perplexed circumstances, which rob the soul of peace and the body of rest, nor enraged with the passion of envy, or the secret burning lust of ambition for great things; but, in easy circumstances, sliding gently through the world, and sensibly tasting the sweets of living, without the bitter; feeling that they are happy, and learning by every day's experience to know it more sensibly,

    Can't argue with that!


  • #19
    Logical Fallacy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Wertz wrote: »
    No, all they learn is they can beat the f*ck out of someone and get away with little consequence, free to do it again the next time someone confronts them.
    I'm no fan of the gardaí but I feel for them when they go through all the rigmarole of putting a charge to these c*nts only for it to lead to suspended sentences.
    This isn't an isolated case either...suspended sentences in assault cases are all too common... you get more time for crime agianst property (theft burglarly etc) as far as I can see...

    Unfortunately the 2 guys may have violent reputations and parents of the witnesses may have worried for their kids safety.

    It's an unfortunate truth that an established criminal element in a community can have a lot of power over people.

    A judicial system that appears to be soft on assault isn't helping anything either.


  • #20
    biko
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    They should give Garda free reins for a months to clean up Limerick and Dublin, no questions asked.


  • #21
    lastlaugh
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    biko wrote: »
    They should give Garda free reins for a months to clean up Limerick and Dublin, no questions asked.

    Something like a 'Special Scumbag Snatch-squad unit'?

    You could be onto something there!


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  • #22
    Fishooks12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    biko wrote: »
    They should give Garda free reins for a months to clean up Limerick and Dublin, no questions asked.

    Yep, we can throw them into all the virtually empty prisons we have......oh........wait


  • #23
    Wertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Logical Fallacy wrote: »
    Unfortunately the 2 guys may have violent reputations and parents of the witnesses may have worried for their kids safety.

    It's an unfortunate truth that an established criminal element in a community can have a lot of power over people.

    A judicial system that appears to be soft on assault isn't helping anything either.

    Yeah I'm not going to roll in and criticise parents for not letting their teen make a statement...the threat of reprisal and intimidation means it's not worth it. Terrible but that's how it is in some places.

    But I'd be of the opinion here that the victim shouldn't have been allowed input into sentencing...that should be down to the judge IMO.
    Maybe the old fella got intimidated himself or regretted making initial statements...at that stage it was down to the DPP and the judge and should have been left to them.


  • #24
    Corvo
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    Least you can smile knowing they will probably end up dead before they are 30.


  • #25
    bobbysands81
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    If my kids beat up an old man or had any part in something like that then I'd march them to the Gardai myself, not a hope in hell would I protect them from the law.


  • #26
    Morlar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    It's kind of hard to balance this case (beat an OAP senseless - walk off scott free) with this :

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056415916

    I think people should remember both of these cases on referendum day.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0727/1224301448082.html


  • #27
    razorblunt
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    Who's Scot Free? maybe he was innocent the whole time! Well done scumbags!


  • #28
    the groutch
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    the legal system (Gardai and judges) just arent bothering any more, they know that once a scumbag, always a scumbag.


  • #29
    paddyandy
    Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    The Telly teaches it's good to be bad and the rest is superfluous commentary.


  • #30
    Chucky the tree
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    Morlar wrote: »
    It's kind of hard to balance this case (beat an OAP senseless - walk off scott free) with this :

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056415916

    I think people should remember both of these cases on referendum day.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0727/1224301448082.html


    What does this have to do with the referendum?


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  • #31
    Leftist
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    Both attackers shook hands with their victim before leaving court.

    Seems fair.

    The victim who was fully aware of the situation, who knows the full shtory, not some furious internet posters looking for a bogey man, one day it's the polish, the next it's gays, now it's the welfare class, any excuse to blame someone else and get outraged.

    There was some sally on here a few weeks ago ballin over her handbag getting robbed from a parked car in Dublin city, scum this, scum that. No idea what scum is. Try needy, poor and marganilised.


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