RTE news on the Dale Farm travellers

cookies221 · 12-10-2011 10:42PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

That's a bit daft, if I may say so.

Do you deny that modern humans originated in Africa? How do you define nationality? These travellers were born in the UK, are they therefore not British? The same way Gerry Adams aka the Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead, is British.

fran oconnor · 12-10-2011 10:54PM

Rawhead wrote: »

I think the travellers are our revenge on the English for Cromwell.
800 years of oppression vs dole cheats, thievery and unplanned housing.
I actually think we have gone to far with the revenge and am feeling slightly sorry for the English.

They can have a few more if they like, maybe they could take a few of them Romanian Gypsy's with them. Its bad enough we had our own without importing more..

mal1 · 12-10-2011 10:56PM

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Off the top of my head, of last night's starting team, Dunne, Given, Doyle, Duff, O'Dea, Whelan, Andrews and Kelly are all Irish born. 8/11. But don't let the facts stand in the way of a tired old joke, eh?

OT, gotta love how the media defines nationality to suit their agenda, with not a blink at their own hypocrasy.

yeah, it's an old joke. And it's after hours and not the soccer forum

ejmaztec · 12-10-2011 11:01PM

cookies221 wrote: »

Do you deny that modern humans originated in Africa? How do you define nationality? These travellers were born in the UK, are they therefore not British? The same way Gerry Adams aka the Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead, is British.

You were trying pin the African origin belief on the left, which is complete nonsense.

I was born in England of Irish parents, and I'm Irish, with the voting rights and the pass-port to go with it. If you don't agree that someone in the same position as myself is Irish, I don't give a toss, as you're perfectly entitled to whatever opinion you may have.

pragmatic1 · 12-10-2011 11:05PM

Nationality involves more than just being born in a certain country. Half my family were born in Britain. Try telling them they arent Irish.

Monty Burnz · 12-10-2011 11:07PM

fryup wrote: »

alot of people born in the UK of irish parentage ..would consider themselves irish

such as these travellers

But they aren't Irish - they are a different ethnic group AIUI.

fran oconnor · 12-10-2011 11:16PM

Lovely people are the travellers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drozvbGvJvU&feature=player_embedded#%21

fryup · 13-10-2011 10:13AM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

But they aren't Irish - they are a different ethnic group AIUI.

ah don't be fooling yourself, they are irish

we're only too quick to claim a talented footballer as irish (half irish soccer team)..its just because these people are travellers that we want to dissociate ourselves from them

Monty Burnz · 13-10-2011 10:23AM

fryup wrote: »

ah don't be fooling yourself, they are irish

It's not me saying it, it's the Traveller movement who are looking for recognition as an ethnic minority (entitling them to additional rights over us Irish schmucks).

fryup · 13-10-2011 10:27AM

but whether they are a different ethnic group or not

they're nationailty is irish

Monty Burnz · 13-10-2011 10:30AM

fryup wrote: »

but whether they are a different ethnic group or not

they're nationailty is irish

I don't understand how. If they are born and raised in Britain, their nationality is British as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps they are Irish-British, but I don't see how they are any more Irish than Irish-Americans.

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