Goodbye Christmas, Hello Winter Holidays

Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:01PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

I read the article twice, think i missed out the part about "the muslims" ordering this to be changed.

Like i said i heard it was because of the Islam religion from my friend who lived in england and she told me about how they were offended by the term "christmas" She also said bus stop adds and bilboards displaying addverts of scantly dressed women were vandalised and the women in the adds were given spray painted burkas etc!!

Haelium · 10-10-2011 10:02PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Like i said i heard it was because of the Islam religion from my friend who lived in england and she told me about how they were offended by the term "christmas" She also said bus stop adds and bilboards displaying addverts of scantly dressed women were vandalised and the women in the adds were given spray painted burkas etc!!

And my friend says that the Jews did 9/11.

noxqs · 10-10-2011 10:05PM

Christmas is originally a celebration of Winter Solstice. Fact.
Easter - also lines up perfectly with old pagan dates of celebration, and so on and so forth.

Quite frankly it was a bit hard to convince people back then to give up their joyous pagan rituals for this Christ guy, and so, the dates just happened to align. Why the hell do you think the old celtic/viking influenced areas got christmas trees (which wasn't originally called that of course) in the first place? Yule logs etc? It certainly has nothing, at all, do to with christ.

At all.

krudler · 10-10-2011 10:06PM

I wont have the true meaning of christmas sullied,anyway everyone knows what christmas is really about, its where our one lord and saviour John McClane saved all those souls in Nakatomi plaza and made good with Holly. but not before dropping Hans out a window.

amen.

Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:07PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

What aspects of Christmas are "OUR" culture exactly?

Christmas is a christian thing i know, But We have always used "christmas, easter, Saint Patricks day" anyway despite out religion! Why should we change be cause it offends a group of people(small group i should say) who have a different culture. Its not doing any harm we are not invading their culture! They chose life here, so!

My name is URL · 10-10-2011 10:09PM

Support the Agnosticism forum :pac:

Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:09PM

Haelium wrote: »

And my friend says that the Jews did 9/11.

If you wanna belive im racist or whatever, go ahead!!! Dont really care wot ya think!
I know im not anyway

Killer Pigeon · 10-10-2011 10:10PM

Well, they are the Winter Holidays, aren't they?

Haelium · 10-10-2011 10:11PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Christmas is a christian thing i know, But We have always used "christmas, easter, Saint Patricks day" anyway despite out religion! Why should we change be cause it offends a group of people(small group i should say) who have a different culture. Its not doing any harm we are not invading their culture! They chose life here, so!

But they were pagan holidays, they're changing the names just like the Christians did when they invaded.

Locker10a wrote: »

If you wanna belive im racist or whatever, go ahead!!! Dont really care wot ya think!
I know im not anyway

I was trying to point out how what "Friends" say is a little silly.

efb · 10-10-2011 10:11PM

Did Christians not just rob the pagan midwinter festival? Im celebrating Samhain this year!

General General · 10-10-2011 10:11PM

How about Happy Paganismus...? or... Happy Ye-gods-day?

InkSlinger67 · 10-10-2011 10:12PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

If that was restricted to one day, I'd have feck all to do for the rest of the year.:(

Airing of grievances in-person is much more fun tbh! Plus you have the added bonus of them not being allowed to respond before you're finished.....doesn't happen around here much nowadays!

Haelium · 10-10-2011 10:12PM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Well, they are the Winter Holidays, aren't they?

Not on the southern hemisphere.

efb · 10-10-2011 10:13PM

Haelium wrote: »

Not on the southern hemisphere.

Are we in the southern hemisphere now???

krudler · 10-10-2011 10:13PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Christmas is a christian thing i know, But We have always used "christmas, easter, Saint Patricks day" anyway despite out religion! Why should we change be cause it offends a group of people(small group i should say) who have a different culture. Its not doing any harm we are not invading their culture! They chose life here, so!

It was a "winter holiday" long before they put the christ in it.

efb · 10-10-2011 10:14PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Christmas is a christian thing i know, But We have always used "christmas, easter, Saint Patricks day" anyway despite out religion! Why should we change be cause it offends a group of people(small group i should say) who have a different culture. Its not doing any harm we are not invading their culture! They chose life here, so!

We always?

Since when?

Wertz · 10-10-2011 10:14PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

What aspects of Christmas are "OUR" culture exactly?

The drinking aspects.

Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:14PM

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Well, they are the Winter Holidays, aren't they?

Yup dey are! But i think it would be sad to loose "christmas"crackers,"christmas"trees, "christmas"presents,"christmas"dinner,"christmas"lights , And cards that said Merry"christmas".
I know this wont happen but its the fact people are trying to make it happen that erks me!!
What will we call easter eggs when"easter" is forbidden ???

efb · 10-10-2011 10:15PM

Locker10a wrote: »

If you wanna belive im racist or whatever, go ahead!!! Dont really care wot ya think!
I know im not anyway

Do you know what racist is?

Wertz · 10-10-2011 10:15PM

Locker10a wrote: »

What will we call easter eggs when"easter" is forbidden ???

Chocolate ovals.

krudler · 10-10-2011 10:15PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Yup dey are! But i think it would be sad to loose "christmas"crackers,"christmas"trees, "christmas"presents,"christmas"dinner,"christmas"lights , And cards that said Merry"christmas".
I know this wont happen but its the fact people are trying to make it happen that erks me!!
What will we call easter eggs when"easter" is forbidden ???

Happy Zombie Jew day, Hallmark better get on that.

efb · 10-10-2011 10:16PM

Wertz wrote: »

Chocolate ovals.

chocolate eggs?

Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:16PM

efb wrote: »

Did Christians not just rob the pagan midwinter festival? Im celebrating Samhain this year!

I belive they did yes!! haha

Haelium · 10-10-2011 10:17PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Yup dey are! But i think it would be sad to loose "christmas"crackers,"christmas"trees, "christmas"presents,"christmas"dinner,"christmas"lights , And cards that said Merry"christmas".
I know this wont happen but its the fact people are trying to make it happen that erks me!!
What will we call easter eggs when"easter" is forbidden ???

But the Trees, the presents and the merriment are all pagan traditions. All the Christians added was prayer.

So I don't think it would be a huge loss.

efb · 10-10-2011 10:17PM

Locker10a wrote: »

I belive they did yes!! haha

We the atheists have it now~! ha ha ha!

strobe · 10-10-2011 10:18PM

Locker10a wrote: »

But can you imagine the uproar [...]
Or if we went to India and started major beef and dairy production businesses!

India has a fairly substantial beef industry, they are the third largest exporter of beef in the world after Australia and Brazil and is the worlds largest producer of dairy products, they turn out ~74 trillion tonnes of milk a year. Both beef and dairy feature heavily in traditional Indian cuisine. Mmmm Beef Madras... So I don't think there would be that much of an uproar really.

Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:19PM

efb wrote: »

chocolate eggs?

But sure you can buy them all year round!!!! What would we call the special big ones we get every year around March/April/May time?

My name is URL · 10-10-2011 10:19PM

It's a load of bollox, and I for one look forward to the threads started which question why otherwise secular and strongly atheist people celebrate and defend their reasoning for doing so using vigorous fluffy logic. Cognitive dissonance at its best.

Ghost Buster · 10-10-2011 10:20PM

Locker10a wrote: »

Christmas is a christian thing i know, WRONG
But We have always used "christmas, easter, Saint Patricks day" anyway despite out religion! WHAT???
Why should we change be cause it offends a group of people(small group i should say) who have a different culture. Its not doing any harm we are not invading their culture! They chose life here, so! AGAIN WHAT?????

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Locker10a · 10-10-2011 10:20PM

strobe wrote: »

India has a fairly substantial beef industry, they are the third largest exporter of beef in the world after Australia and Brazil and is the worlds largest producer of dairy products, they turn out ~74 trillion tonnes of milk a year. Both beef and dairy feature heavily in traditional Indian cuisine. So I don't think there would be that much of an uproar really.

Sorry well i know lots of Hindu's worship the cow and thats a pretty big religion in India!:rolleyes:

Goodbye Christmas, Hello Winter Holidays

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