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Waterford is dying...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    And it could be conditional with maintaining it/ making it at least look attractive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Why don't they have a 'live above the shop' scheme? That would bring a bit of life back into the city centre?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Why don't they have a 'live above the shop' scheme? That would bring a bit of life back into the city centre?

    Don't they usually rent out the flats to tenants?

    Its horrible to live above a shop. People will disturb you in your home, even if the shop is closed, because they are 'stuck', and you have to smile and tell them its no trouble at all to give up your Sunday and help them out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Very true. Personally, I think that when they got rid of "red square" and pedestrianised the WHOLE area they actually lost a bit of the buzz and soul from Georges Street/Former Red Square area.

    It all looks very bland now with no individuality to it. I was in Glasgow a while ago and they have an almost identical water feature & paved area to John Roberts Square. The difference though is that Glasgow is such a bustling City it doesnt look bad there.

    I was thinking about this when this thread was started, but I'd turn the clock back even further to when Red Square (triangle) was just the Barronstrand - a big open space that filled with parked cars and everyone could be plonked right in the centre for shopping. It was a bit chaotic but also lively.

    Would I really want that back? Probably not but I hate the moonscape so much almost anything would be better. What were they thinking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Society has changed too. For example: a few years back teenagers would go into town at weekends to buy CDs, now they download everything.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Society has changed too. For example: a few years back teenagers would go into town at weekends to buy CDs, now they download everything.

    Back in my day there used to be a lot of teenage country folk from Kilmacow or Passage hanging around the Book Centre. I haven't noticed them in a while.

    Also, Broad St Shopping Centre used to be a shopping centre, which kept people around that area. And Egan's would have drawn a bit of a crowd. Less people pop into the Cathedral to light a candle or go to confession now too I'd say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,197 ✭✭✭daenerysstormborn3


    dayshah wrote: »
    Oh God, can we please think outside the British Isles :eek:

    Cause, that's all we a part of if we keep looking towards Old Blighty.

    There are lots of pretty cities in the world, Glasgow doesn't rank amongst them :(

    Interesting point about the De La Salle centre and cinema. There should be more to bring people into town than shopping, work, and beer. The cinema and De La Salle centre allowed for a more varied social scene in the city centre, and its sad they are gone.


    I agree with what you mean by us not being a big city like Dublin.

    I was just elaborating on a point somebody else made.

    I do think there are a lot of cities around the world that could be emulated but I also think that there is no need to get carried away with illusions of a well designed city suddenly meaning a bigger city just covered with people.

    One of the things that strikes me about Waterford is that if you're not from Waterford you have no way of knowing where to go. The likes of Next must really suffer being so far out, the cinema is also a bit away from the centre of activity. Shaws looks very run down outside and that is no reflection on what is inside (I'm talking about the likes of Dorothy Perkins and Warehouse), it just doesn't look very inviting.

    Something like a map near city square (it doesn't have to be interactive but that could be good too) setting out where everything is around the town might be a good idea for tourists?

    I just think that as things have gotten more expensive there's less of a pull for teenagers to go into town. Their parents are struggling and can't really afford even €10-€20 for their kids to pop into town on a Saturday/Sunday and hang around with their friends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dayshah


    Something like a map near city square (it doesn't have to be interactive but that could be good too) setting out where everything is around the town might be a good idea for tourists?

    I just think that as things have gotten more expensive there's less of a pull for teenagers to go into town. Their parents are struggling and can't really afford even €10-€20 for their kids to pop into town on a Saturday/Sunday and hang around with their friends.

    Yeah, a few maps around the place would be good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Shaws frontage is so of its time, its stunk the Quay out since day one, thing is it could easily be rehabilitated. If they translated the design elements of the older building across onto those slabs it would be improved no end.

    IMG00794-20091009-1651_medium.JPGIMG00795-20091009-1651_medium.JPG


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭Not The Real Scarecrow


    mike65 wrote: »
    Shaws frontage is so of its time, its stunk the Quay out since day one, thing is it could easily be rehabilitated. If they translated the design elements of the older building across onto those slabs it would be improved no end.

    IMG00794-20091009-1651_medium.JPGIMG00795-20091009-1651_medium.JPG

    From what I've heard Shaws mightn't be there for much longer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 414 ✭✭kkdela6


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Society has changed too. For example: a few years back teenagers would go into town at weekends to buy CDs, now they download everything.

    very true. When i was in secondary school before the ipod and downloading era, Our saturdays consisted of a trip to town with the only intention of buying a cd, and then we'd make a full day of it, having the craic around red square
    I just think that as things have gotten more expensive there's less of a pull for teenagers to go into town. Their parents are struggling and can't really afford even €10-€20 for their kids to pop into town on a Saturday/Sunday and hang around with their friends.

    yea, ten squid basically spent doing nothing. at least a few years ago there was gigs on for teenagers nearly every weekend in places like the bowery, electric avenue, the forum and many hotels around the city. 5 euro entry, and maybe enough for a bottle of coke or two, but you really got your moneys worth in entertainment.
    im not sure if there are still such events going on anymore


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