Gary Redmond

maygitchell · 04-10-2011 02:03PM #1

Irish Times

Top 50 Most Influential People in Education, Discuss.

maygitchell · 04-10-2011 02:04PM

Link:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/education/2011/1004/1224305196387.html?via=mr

PomBear · 04-10-2011 02:54PM

Gary's a careerist and nothing but, USI are really wasting our time and money as most their protests mean nothing and re strictly photo-opps. He came out and criticised students for the Dept of Finance debacle which reeked of hypocrisy. As long as Gary and the rest of the CV boosters are there, don't expect much of a fight against fees from them

Exhibit A:

maygitchell · 04-10-2011 02:55PM

PomBear wrote: »

Gary's a careerist and nothing but, USI are really wasting our time and money as most their protests mean nothing and re strictly photo-opps. He came out and criticised students for the Dept of Finance debacle which reeked of hypocrisy. As long as Gary and the rest of the CV boosters are there, don't expect much of a fight against fees from them

Exhibit A:

A FF'er? Your kidding right?

PomBear · 04-10-2011 03:21PM

maygitchell wrote: »

A FF'er? Your kidding right?

Make up your own mind I suppose, the evidence is there.

Also this photo was taken 6 months AFTER Fianna Fáil increased third level fees

maygitchell · 04-10-2011 03:23PM

PomBear wrote: »

Make up your own mind I suppose, the evidence is there.

Also this photo was taken 6 months AFTER Fianna Fáil increased third level fees

Voldemort and a gimp

Raging_Ninja · 04-10-2011 11:53PM

because nothing is ever accomplished by talking with the people in government....

the keen edge · 05-10-2011 09:42AM

Looks like a photo shoot for the Special Olympics.

Pandoras Twist · 05-10-2011 09:18PM

He's a miniature politician. Shamelessly self promoting, hypocritical and a spin master.

PomBear · 05-10-2011 10:29PM

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

because nothing is ever accomplished by talking with the people in government....

Micheal Martin isn't in Government

maygitchell · 06-10-2011 11:55PM

Im shamed that man (*insert species here*) represents the views of the student body

Raging_Ninja · 07-10-2011 01:23AM

PomBear wrote: »

Micheal Martin isn't in Government

He was a minister at the time the picture was taken.

Ficheall · 07-10-2011 09:40AM

maygitchell wrote: »

Im shamed that man (*insert species here*) represents the views of the student body

I'm curious as to how PomBear, who also, supposedly, is in a position which represents the views of the student body, would react if there were a similar thread lambasting him..

maygitchell · 07-10-2011 01:45PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I'm curious as to how PomBear, who also, supposedly, is in a position which represents the views of the student body, would react if there were a similar thread lambasting him..

Forgive my ignorance but im unaware of PomBears identity, or as you suggest, his/her position

Lockstep · 07-10-2011 01:58PM

PomBear wrote: »

Make up your own mind I suppose, the evidence is there.

Also this photo was taken 6 months AFTER Fianna Fáil increased third level fees

Dear lord, it's like a Portrait of Dorian Gray.

PomBear · 08-10-2011 02:27PM

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

He was a minister at the time the picture was taken.

No, he wasn't.

PomBear · 08-10-2011 02:28PM

Ficheall wrote: »

I'm curious as to how PomBear, who also, supposedly, is in a position which represents the views of the student body, would react if there were a similar thread lambasting him..

Work away....
Also, what position would I be in that takes on such responsibility?

Red_Wake · 08-10-2011 02:51PM

PomBear wrote: »

Work away....
Also, what position would I be in that takes on such responsibility?

I hear you're really Emmett Connolly.:rolleyes:

PomBear · 08-10-2011 03:07PM

Red_Wake wrote: »

I hear you're really Emmett Connolly.:rolleyes:

Afraid not!

murraykil · 08-10-2011 03:26PM

PomBear wrote: »

Make up your own mind I suppose, the evidence is there.

Also this photo was taken 6 months AFTER Fianna Fáil increased third level fees

Third level fees! :pac: The charges for third level education in Ireland are amongst the lowest in the world. So low in fact that the are negative in many cases; those who qualify for Government grant assistance get their e2k fees paid for them as well as support checks totalling up to thousands over the school year!

Skopzz · 08-10-2011 06:10PM

Stooping to a new low by aligning himself to a corrupt party that bankrupted Ireland.

the keen edge · 08-10-2011 06:20PM

murraykil wrote: »

Third level fees! :pac: The charges for third level education in Ireland are amongst the lowest in the world. So low in fact that the are negative in many cases; those who qualify for Government grant assistance get their e2k fees paid for them as well as support checks totalling up to thousands over the school year!

Complete bollix.

And you've spelt cheque incorrectly.

murraykil · 08-10-2011 09:23PM

the keen edge wrote: »

Complete bollix.

And you've spelt cheque incorrectly.

I am aware of the alternate spellings of many English words and since English is a secondary language for me, I don't feel tied to any particular version.

I am aware of the Student Grant Scheme which can pay students up to e6100 per school year, as well reimbursing up to e2000 of registration fees and also assisting with the cost of field trips.

I would appreciate a "thanks" for providing you with this piece of free supplementary education to go along with the many years of free education provided to you by the Irish tax payer via the Government.

And you spelled bollocks incorrectly! :pac:

The___________ · 08-10-2011 09:33PM

murraykil wrote: »

I am aware of the alternate spellings of many English words and since English is a secondary language for me, I don't feel tied to any particular version.

I am aware of the Student Grant Scheme which can pay students up to e6100 per school year, as well reimbursing up to e2000 of registration fees and also assisting with the cost of field trips.

I would appreciate a "thanks" for providing you with this piece of free supplementary education to go along with the many years of free education provided to you by the Irish tax payer via the Government.

And you spelled bollocks incorrectly! :pac:

You may well be aware that the government can 'pay' students e6100 per annum in grant subsidies but presumably you are not aware of the exceptional circumstances that must occur for a student to be illegible for such a large grant,

The vast majority of students receive no where near this level of support from the government

the keen edge · 08-10-2011 10:20PM

murraykil wrote: »

I am aware of the alternate spellings of many English words and since English is a secondary language for me, I don't feel tied to any particular version.

Fair enough, and now that you know the correct spelling in this context you wont make that mistake again. And no need to thank me, you yourself can have that bit of supplementary education for free.

murraykil wrote: »

I am aware of the Student Grant Scheme which can pay students up to e6100 per school year, as well reimbursing up to e2000 of registration fees and also assisting with the cost of field trips.

So are you also aware of the number of students who qualify for this level of grant?.
Your prior post was the typical broad sweeping statement that all students just have to turn up at some government office with their hand out when they need cash.
Are you now retracting your previous post that all students who qualify for the grant receive cheques totaling thousands of Euros?.

murraykil wrote: »

I would appreciate a "thanks" for providing you with this piece of free supplementary education to go along with the many years of free education provided to you by the Irish tax payer via the Government.

As in all your posts in this thread you are assuming an awful lot.

So, how do you know how much, if any indeed any, free education I've received, let alone many years of it?.
Also who said I'm not a tax payer myself?. If indeed I am a student, how does that mean I never paid tax before I came one. Or what about students who work part time, can they not be a current tax payer either?.
Enlighten me please.

murraykil wrote: »

And you spelled bollocks incorrectly! :pac:

I spelt it wrong out of politeness.

murraykil · 08-10-2011 10:32PM

The___________ wrote: »

You may well be aware that the government can 'pay' students e6100 per annum in grant subsidies but presumably you are not aware of the exceptional circumstances that must occur for a student to be illegible for such a large grant,

The vast majority of students receive no where near this level of support from the government

the keen edge wrote: »

Fair enough, and now that you know the correct spelling in this context you wont make that mistake again. And no need to thank me, you yourself can have that bit of supplementary education for free.

So are you also aware of the number of students who qualify for this level of grant?.
Your prior post was the typical broad sweeping statement that all students just have to turn up at some government office with their hand out when they need cash.
Are you now retracting your previous post that all students who qualify for the grant receive cheques totaling thousands of Euros?.

As in all your posts in this thread you are assuming an awful lot.

So, how do you know how much, if any indeed any, free education I've received, let alone many years of it?.
Also who said I'm not a tax payer myself?. If indeed I am a student, how does that mean I never paid tax before I came one. Or what about students who work part time, can they not be a current tax payer either?.
Enlighten me please.

I spelt it wrong out of politeness.

Apologies. How dare they charge ye e2k for a year of 3rd level education. And to add insult to injury, they won't even pay ye e6100 to go to classes.

Skopzz · 08-10-2011 11:15PM

the keen edge wrote: »

Complete bollix.

And you've spelt cheque incorrectly.

Actually, it is the truth. The country cannot afford it anymore so we must cut these generous benefits. They are cutting all other benefits for everyone as well.

The___________ · 08-10-2011 11:21PM

murraykil wrote: »

Apologies. How dare they charge ye e2k for a year of 3rd level education. And to add insult to injury, they won't even pay ye e6100 to go to classes.

Stop posting nonsensical rubbish, where in the previous posts did I or The Keen Edge suggest that the government should 'pay' students e6100?,

I have absolutely no problem with students and their families shouldering the cost of a third level education but only when the means of that family allow it, for those who are less well off why shouldn't the government help them to attend third level institutions?

Or do you advocate a return to the previous system where only the wealthy could afford to send their children to college/university without incurring large amounts of debt?

The___________ · 08-10-2011 11:24PM

Skopzz wrote: »

Actually, it is the truth. The country cannot afford it anymore so we must cut these generous benefits. They are cutting all other benefits for everyone as well.

They have been cut, a 4% reduction across the board last year with further cuts expected in the forthcoming budget, the student levy was also increased by e500 per head to e2000

murraykil · 08-10-2011 11:50PM

The___________ wrote: »

Stop posting nonsensical rubbish, where in the previous posts did I or The Keen Edge suggest that the government should 'pay' students e6100?,

I have absolutely no problem with students and their families shouldering the cost of a third level education but only when the means of that family allow it, for those who are less well off why shouldn't the government help them to attend third level institutions?

Or do you advocate a return to the previous system where only the wealthy could afford to send their children to college/university without incurring large amounts of debt?

Both of ye either did not read or did not understand my posts correctly so I didn't think your replies deserved a sensical reply.

I said "can pay students up to e6100" and you made a false assumption from this.

As for the other guy, I said "those who qualify for Government grant assistance" and "checks totalling up to thousands" which he later quoted as me having said "Are you now retracting your previous post that all students who qualify for the grant receive cheques totaling thousands of Euros?"

The cost of 3rd level education in Ireland is very cheap and is being complained about too much. The amount of money that NUIG has over the last few years, and is investing in their campus is huge and it is a wonderful place for those who are lucky enough get to go there. It is worth more than e2k a year. Those who paid e2k this year should consider themselves lucky, but prepare for more appropriate costs in the future.

Skopzz · 09-10-2011 12:06PM

All the socialists on here should consider this:

The country is living beyond its means and cannot afford to keep paying for people. The grants are just one thing that will be cut - they are also cutting social welfare, child benefit and so on. Lecturers salaries should be cut too.

Gary Redmond

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