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#Occupy Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Rabble rabble rabble cardboard sign rabble rabble rabble global economy rabble rabble rabble hang the bankers rabble rabble rabble evil corporations rabble rabble rabble tie me to a tree rabble rabble rabble no I'm actually a vegan rabble rabble rabble.

    Oh, another lazy cliché in After Hours directed at some of the few people in Irish society, and people who post here in favour of them, who make a stand against the state (and "capitalist" powers) shifting the burden of paying for their failed commercial gambles on to ordinary taxpayers - "socialise the losses; privatise the profits". What a surprise in After Hours. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    The mint is in Sandyford

    Thats why they aren't using it!:D

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Bloody non-conformists...
    ... oh wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Oh, another lazy cliché in After Hours directed at some of the few people in Irish society, and people who post here in favour of them, who make a stand against the state (and "capitalist" powers) shifting the burden of paying for their failed commercial gambles on to ordinary taxpayers. What a surprise in After Hours. :rolleyes:

    Nope. Was not my intent at all. It was a sweeping generalisation of the mentality of the rabble-rousers. A lot of energy lost in gathering in public places and f*cking up my Saturday. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    You're right, there's nothing wrong with the video as such but having looked at another one I'm just not interested in anything that person has to say/document.

    Sorry, you'll have to bear with me while I try to rap my head around this. You seem to agree that this is a fairly accurate documentation of a snippet of events, yet you're dismissing it summarily because you don't like the documentarian's views on other issues?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,292 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    God damn hippies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    Passed by today and again tonight. Decent amount currently at it - about 100, I'd say. But it's hard to see who's in and who is just passing by.

    They've a great spirit, but considering the vast majority of those in attendance are of the 'bearded, dreadlocked, african-jumper wearing, white middle-class boys' look, I can't see them winning many more people over. There seems to be few of the average men and women of Ireland there. Which is a pity, because this whole thing could be put down easy with it being referred to as a 'smelly hippies' thing.

    They've carpet laid, and tents and a gazeebo set up now. It's a bit ramshackle currently and I'm sure they'll be taken down when a health and safety officer gets around to them (they're tied to trees and have ropes running around the square at neck height), but sure why not make a go of it- they won't be doing anything else - They could be doing a helluva lot worse things with their time.

    I'm not sure how sound their knowledge on the financial markets currently are, though - one bloke told me if the banks failed, we'd be grand, because we'd just start up again tomorrow with a new bank. Another said we don't ever need banks. It's all a bit in the air and people attaching their own meanings to it currently, but you can't govern the minds of a random group of people's minds I suppose!

    Saturday night was getting going when I was leaving and they were already getting hassled by drunks and morons. On top of that they're in a fairly unsheltered and open area, so the temperature will drop fast tonight and they'll be hit with winds all night. There doesn't seem to be enough tents either, so if the rain comes, it could get fairly miserable.

    All in all, I'd be surprised if it lasts til Saturday, but I kinda hope it does. Just to see what happens.
    And in case they're reading (they've internet access) - good luck lads!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Fair play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Unfortunately, the Socialist Workers Party have taken over what would have been a worth while protest, yet again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭lamai


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Still doesn't achieve anything. It's a good show of force I agree, but rabble all the same.

    It's a start!!!

    Fair play to them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Benjamin the donkey in Animal Farm? :pac:

    Rabble

    1. A tumultuous crowd; a mob.
    2. The lowest or coarsest class of people. Often used with the.
    3. A group of persons regarded with contempt:



    If you use this term for the protesters. What word do you use to describe the people they are protesting against?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Millicent wrote: »
    Sorry, you'll have to bear with me while I try to rap my head around this. You seem to agree that this is a fairly accurate documentation of a snippet of events, yet you're dismissing it summarily because you don't like the documentarian's views on other issues?

    I can see why I may not be making any sense here. Absolutely. There's nothing wrong that THAT video, I just have an issue with the other one I viewed and I'm instantly not interested in watching anymore from them.

    Will we agree to leave it at that? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Daithi is the irish for...Dave .....OMG, I KNEW IT!

    OMG, like, alternatively, like, David is the English for, like, the Hebrew Dāwīḏ. Imagine that: all roads do not lead to English culture (like).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    mehfesto wrote: »
    Passed by today and again tonight. Decent amount currently at it - about 100, I'd say. But it's hard to see who's in and who is just passing by.

    They've a great spirit, but considering the vast majority of those in attendance are of the 'bearded, dreadlocked, african-jumper wearing, white middle-class boys' look, I can't see them winning many more people over. There seems to be few of the average men and women of Ireland there. Which is a pity, because this whole thing could be put down easy with it being referred to as a 'smelly hippies' thing. [Snipped]

    And in case they're reading (they've internet access) - good luck lads!

    Were you there long at all? I have to disagree on the turnout -- I was at the protest this afternoon (2-5) and I was actually surprised at the mix of people. Sure, there were the stereotypical dreadlocked hippies and posers, but I mingled with a few older people, younger people, varying nationalities, different classes etc.

    Would be nice to see an even greater blend, but it's early days yet. :)

    P.s. I'm neither smelly nor a hippy, though I have been a member of the liberal, pinko PC brigade a few times on AH. "Pinko" next to "liberal" always got me. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    I can see why I may not be making any sense here. Absolutely. There's nothing wrong that THAT video, I just have an issue with the other one I viewed and I'm instantly not interested in watching anymore from them.

    Will we agree to leave it at that? :pac:

    Ah, gotcha! Sorry, I get where you're coming from now. RTE had camera crew at it though, if you want a different perspective. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    orourkeda wrote: »
    What are they hoping to achieve exactly?

    to get more dole money :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Rabble

    1. A tumultuous crowd; a mob.
    2. The lowest or coarsest class of people. Often used with the.
    3. A group of persons regarded with contempt:



    If you use this term for the protesters. What word do you use to describe the people they are protesting against?

    My post would just be full of asterisks if I was. ^_^

    But of course when I use the term "rabble" I mean 1, not so the rest. Well maybe 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    chin_grin wrote: »
    My post would just be full of asterisks if I was. ^_^

    But of course when I use the term "rabble" I mean 1, not so the rest. Well maybe 3.


    So if you "maybe" regard the protesters with contempt how do you regard those who they are protesting against?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭mehfesto


    Millicent wrote: »
    Where you there long at all? I have to disagree on the turnout -- I was at the protest this afternoon (2-5) and I was actually surprised at the mix of people. Sure, there were the stereotypical dreadlocked hippies and posers, but I mingled with a few older people, younger people, varying nationalities, different classes etc.

    Would be nice to see an even greater blend, but it's early days yet. :)

    P.s. I'm neither smelly nor a hippy, though I have been a member of the liberal, pinko PC brigade a few times on AH. "Pinko" next to "liberal" always got me. :pac:

    I was there from 2-4 to see what was going on and for about 40 minutes after half 8 (because the gig I was supposed to be at was cack - and they were doling out jobs to do at this stage; security, house keeping, etc.). There was a greater mix earlier on in the day, but bar a few, it's mostly what you'd expect at this sort of thing now. As you say, early days yet. I wish them the best, but I can't see numbers swelling.

    I'm sure there will be more support during the day time though, and only the hardcore will stay the night, which is understandable. I'm of the opinion this won't grow. I can't see us lasting as long as the Spanish or Greeks - mostly due to climate and the location they chose. Somewhere more sheltered, nearer public toilets and cheaper food outlets would have been ideal. A lot of people seem very under-supplied for the days and nights ahead too - inappropriate clothing, insufficient water supplies etc.

    I think they're intentions are good, but that logistically, they're up against it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭Gee Bag


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    So if you "maybe" regard the protesters with contempt how do you regard those who they are protesting against?

    With reverence and awe


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    So if you "maybe" regard the protesters with contempt how do you regard those who they are protesting against?

    Jaysus you're worse than a politician with your "putting words in other peoples' mouths" sort of way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    mehfesto wrote: »
    Passed by today and again tonight. Decent amount currently at it - about 100, I'd say. But it's hard to see who's in and who is just passing by.

    They've a great spirit, but considering the vast majority of those in attendance are of the 'bearded, dreadlocked, african-jumper wearing, white middle-class boys' look, I can't see them winning many more people over. There seems to be few of the average men and women of Ireland there. Which is a pity, because this whole thing could be put down easy with it being referred to as a 'smelly hippies' thing.

    They've carpet laid, and tents and a gazeebo set up now. It's a bit ramshackle currently and I'm sure they'll be taken down when a health and safety officer gets around to them (they're tied to trees and have ropes running around the square at neck height), but sure why not make a go of it- they won't be doing anything else - They could be doing a helluva lot worse things with their time.

    I'm not sure how sound their knowledge on the financial markets currently are, though - one bloke told me if the banks failed, we'd be grand, because we'd just start up again tomorrow with a new bank. Another said we don't ever need banks. It's all a bit in the air and people attaching their own meanings to it currently, but you can't govern the minds of a random group of people's minds I suppose!

    Saturday night was getting going when I was leaving and they were already getting hassled by drunks and morons. On top of that they're in a fairly unsheltered and open area, so the temperature will drop fast tonight and they'll be hit with winds all night. There doesn't seem to be enough tents either, so if the rain comes, it could get fairly miserable.

    All in all, I'd be surprised if it lasts til Saturday, but I kinda hope it does. Just to see what happens.
    And in case they're reading (they've internet access) - good luck lads!

    I wonder how many of them are on the dole? the department should get in there and photograph them all and cut off any that are claiming jobseekers allowance because obviously they are not jobbseeking.

    Why are so many of these events organised by the same people with very english accents and a hippy commune look about them to go with their anarchist anti-establishment agenda? how many are actually Irish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    I wonder how many of them are on the dole? the department should get in there and photograph them all and cut off any that are claiming jobseekers allowance because obviously they are not jobbseeking.

    Why are so many of these events organised by the same people with very english accents and a hippy commune look about them to go with their anarchist anti-establishment agenda? how many are actually Irish?

    So they're not allowed Saturdays off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Gee Bag wrote: »
    With reverence and awe

    They are not protesting against "your ma".

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Millicent wrote: »
    So they're not allowed Saturdays off?
    Dole is paid for 6 days a week, You can have Sunday off:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Jaysus you're worse than a politician with your "putting words in other peoples' mouths" sort of way.

    Just asking a question. Don't answer if you don't want to.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭Da_Doc


    I dont particularly agree with them but fair play to them for standing up and trying to change things. As long as they dont hassle people going to and from their work places I have no objection to them making their voices heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    I wonder how many of them are on the dole? the department should get in there and photograph them all and cut off any that are claiming jobseekers allowance because obviously they are not jobbseeking.

    Why are so many of these events organised by the same people with very english accents and a hippy commune look about them to go with their anarchist anti-establishment agenda? how many are actually Irish?

    Yes put them on the trains, put them all on the trains.

    Arbeit Macht Frei.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Fairplay to them. Might go along myself tommorrow. If any good comes from it? Don't know until we try!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Fairplay to them. Might go along myself tommorrow. If any good comes from it? Don't know until we try!

    It's better than sitting around bitching at it, IMO.


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