#Occupy Ireland

Daithi 1

Fair play to these folks !! I'm a join them tomorrow for a few hours.

http://www.vimeo.com/30239170

phasers

Why did they choose Dame Street? Cos it's close to Starbucks?

chin_grin

Rabble rabble rabble cardboard sign rabble rabble rabble global economy rabble rabble rabble hang the bankers rabble rabble rabble evil corporations rabble rabble rabble tie me to a tree rabble rabble rabble no I'm actually a vegan rabble rabble rabble.

Millicent

phasers wrote: »

Why did they choose Dame Street? Cos it's close to Starbucks?

Central Bank.

Kintarō Hattori

chin_grin wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble cardboard sign rabble rabble rabble global economy rabble rabble rabble hang the bankers rabble rabble rabble evil corporations rabble rabble rabble tie me to a tree rabble rabble rabble no I'm actually a vegan rabble rabble rabble.

Just had a look at the persons other videos and came across the one below:

http://www.vimeo.com/16859818

Instantly not interested. Gardai while not perfect hardly have a penchant for violence.

Oddjob

Is that bloke a primary school teacher?

Millicent

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Just had a look at the persons other videos and came across the one below:

http://www.vimeo.com/16859818

Instantly not interested. Gardai while not perfect hardly have a penchant for violence.

So you're writing off the whole protest because of one person with a camera?!

Wolfe Tone

Its nearly always good to see people take to the streets to make a statement and to stand up for what they believe in.

Unfortunately there seems to be an opinion among the majority in Ireland that doing so is somehow wrong, something to be mocked and looked down on. Its that type of attitude which has let us be trampled on, don't make a fuss.

Fair play to these people for taking the time to get off their arses and actually try to change things, something the inevitable posters who will say that those who took part are unemployed tossers with nothing better to do, have probably never done, they are content to sneer at those who do, basking in a false sense of superiority, all the while getting shafted.

orourkeda

What are they hoping to achieve exactly?

Absurdum

leave Dame Edna The **** alone you smelly hippies

Kintarō Hattori

Millicent wrote: »

So you're writing off the whole protest because of one person with a camera?!

No I'm just saying I'm not interested in that particular persons video(s), their take on things.

the groutch

just wait til the street sweeping machines come along

Millicent

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

No I'm just saying I'm not interested in that particular persons video(s), their take on things.

Fair enough, but it's just documenting the protest. Surely it's useful on its own merits for that?

The Left Hand Of God

The tits on yer man......

joshrogan

It's bludgeoning time! To the Garda mobile!

Corsendonk

Are they there tonight? Should be fun when someone tries to take a slash against a tent!

phasers

Isn't the Central Bank closed on Saturdays anyway?

Kintarō Hattori

Millicent wrote: »

Fair enough, but it's just documenting the protest. Surely it's useful on its own merits for that?

To document stuff is always a great idea but how you present it is very important. Unfortunately as a result of their other video they wouldn't appear to be balanced and fair, therefore ruling out any interest on my part of their recordings.

Corsendonk

phasers wrote: »

Isn't the Central Bank closed on Saturdays anyway?

Protest started friday evening, teachers have weekends off, they be back at work monday.

chin_grin

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Its nearly always good to see people take to the streets to make a statement and to stand up for what they believe in.

Unfortunately there seems to be an opinion among the majority in Ireland that doing so is somehow wrong, something to be mocked and looked down on. Its that type of attitude which has let us be trampled on, don't make a fuss.

Fair play to these people for taking the time to get off their arses and actually try to change things, something the inevitable posters who will say that those who took part are unemployed tossers with nothing better to do, have probably never done, they are content to sneer at those who do, basking in a false sense of superiority, all the while getting shafted.

Still doesn't achieve anything. It's a good show of force I agree, but rabble all the same.

Daithi 1

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

To document stuff is always a great idea but how you present it is very important. Unfortunately as a result of their other video they wouldn't appear to be balanced and fair, therefore ruling out any interest on my part of their recordings.

But you have watched 2 already.

SafeSurfer

phasers wrote: »

Isn't the Central Bank closed on Saturdays anyway?

No they are on overtime at the moment. Working 24/7 printing the new punts.

SafeSurfer

chin_grin wrote: »

Still doesn't achieve anything. It's a good show of force I agree, but rabble all the same.

Now where did I hear that before?

TouchingVirus

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Fair play to these folks !! I'm a join them tomorrow for a few hours.

http://www.vimeo.com/30239170

Daithi is the irish for...Dave .....OMG, I KNEW IT!

Gee Bag

SafeSurfer wrote: »

No they are on overtime at the moment. Working 24/7 printing the new punts.

The mint is in Sandyford

Kintarō Hattori

Daithi 1 wrote: »

But you have watched 2 already.

One somewhat unwittingly and now I'll ignore the rest never to return.

Millicent

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

To document stuff is always a great idea but how you present it is very important. Unfortunately as a result of their other video they wouldn't appear to be balanced and fair, therefore ruling out any interest on my part of their recordings.

Have you watched it? It's literally straight documentation. No voiceover; no editing; no apparent bias--just a recording of one guy's speech. It's under two minutes long.

chin_grin

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Now where did I hear that before?

Benjamin the donkey in Animal Farm? :pac:

Gee Bag

joshrogan wrote: »

It's bludgeoning time! To the Garda mobile!

It's just like baby seal season in Canada. Good times buddy, good times.

Daithi 1

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

One somewhat unwittingly and now I'll ignore the rest never to return.

Well thanks for your participation and contribution.

Kintarō Hattori

Millicent wrote: »

Have you watched it? It's literally straight documentation. No voiceover; no editing; no apparent bias--just a recording of one guy's speech. It's under two minutes long.

You're right, there's nothing wrong with the video as such but having looked at another one I'm just not interested in anything that person has to say/document.

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Well thanks for your participation and contribution.

You're very welcome Daithi.

Dionysus

chin_grin wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble cardboard sign rabble rabble rabble global economy rabble rabble rabble hang the bankers rabble rabble rabble evil corporations rabble rabble rabble tie me to a tree rabble rabble rabble no I'm actually a vegan rabble rabble rabble.

Oh, another lazy cliché in After Hours directed at some of the few people in Irish society, and people who post here in favour of them, who make a stand against the state (and "capitalist" powers) shifting the burden of paying for their failed commercial gambles on to ordinary taxpayers - "socialise the losses; privatise the profits". What a surprise in After Hours. :rolleyes:

SafeSurfer

Gee Bag wrote: »

The mint is in Sandyford

Thats why they aren't using it!:D

Killer Pigeon

Bloody non-conformists...
... oh wait.

chin_grin

Dionysus wrote: »

Oh, another lazy cliché in After Hours directed at some of the few people in Irish society, and people who post here in favour of them, who make a stand against the state (and "capitalist" powers) shifting the burden of paying for their failed commercial gambles on to ordinary taxpayers. What a surprise in After Hours. :rolleyes:

Nope. Was not my intent at all. It was a sweeping generalisation of the mentality of the rabble-rousers. A lot of energy lost in gathering in public places and f*cking up my Saturday. :pac:

Millicent

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

You're right, there's nothing wrong with the video as such but having looked at another one I'm just not interested in anything that person has to say/document.

Sorry, you'll have to bear with me while I try to rap my head around this. You seem to agree that this is a fairly accurate documentation of a snippet of events, yet you're dismissing it summarily because you don't like the documentarian's views on other issues?

Zamboni

God damn hippies.

mehfesto

Passed by today and again tonight. Decent amount currently at it - about 100, I'd say. But it's hard to see who's in and who is just passing by.

They've a great spirit, but considering the vast majority of those in attendance are of the 'bearded, dreadlocked, african-jumper wearing, white middle-class boys' look, I can't see them winning many more people over. There seems to be few of the average men and women of Ireland there. Which is a pity, because this whole thing could be put down easy with it being referred to as a 'smelly hippies' thing.

They've carpet laid, and tents and a gazeebo set up now. It's a bit ramshackle currently and I'm sure they'll be taken down when a health and safety officer gets around to them (they're tied to trees and have ropes running around the square at neck height), but sure why not make a go of it- they won't be doing anything else - They could be doing a helluva lot worse things with their time.

I'm not sure how sound their knowledge on the financial markets currently are, though - one bloke told me if the banks failed, we'd be grand, because we'd just start up again tomorrow with a new bank. Another said we don't ever need banks. It's all a bit in the air and people attaching their own meanings to it currently, but you can't govern the minds of a random group of people's minds I suppose!

Saturday night was getting going when I was leaving and they were already getting hassled by drunks and morons. On top of that they're in a fairly unsheltered and open area, so the temperature will drop fast tonight and they'll be hit with winds all night. There doesn't seem to be enough tents either, so if the rain comes, it could get fairly miserable.

All in all, I'd be surprised if it lasts til Saturday, but I kinda hope it does. Just to see what happens.
And in case they're reading (they've internet access) - good luck lads!

Chuck Stone

Fair play.

Killer Pigeon

Unfortunately, the Socialist Workers Party have taken over what would have been a worth while protest, yet again.

lamai

chin_grin wrote: »

Still doesn't achieve anything. It's a good show of force I agree, but rabble all the same.

It's a start!!!

Fair play to them

SafeSurfer

chin_grin wrote: »

Benjamin the donkey in Animal Farm? :pac:

Rabble

1. A tumultuous crowd; a mob.
2. The lowest or coarsest class of people. Often used with the.
3. A group of persons regarded with contempt:



If you use this term for the protesters. What word do you use to describe the people they are protesting against?

Kintarō Hattori

Millicent wrote: »

Sorry, you'll have to bear with me while I try to rap my head around this. You seem to agree that this is a fairly accurate documentation of a snippet of events, yet you're dismissing it summarily because you don't like the documentarian's views on other issues?

I can see why I may not be making any sense here. Absolutely. There's nothing wrong that THAT video, I just have an issue with the other one I viewed and I'm instantly not interested in watching anymore from them.

Will we agree to leave it at that? :pac:

Dionysus

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Daithi is the irish for...Dave .....OMG, I KNEW IT!

OMG, like, alternatively, like, David is the English for, like, the Hebrew Dāwīḏ. Imagine that: all roads do not lead to English culture (like).

Millicent

mehfesto wrote: »

Passed by today and again tonight. Decent amount currently at it - about 100, I'd say. But it's hard to see who's in and who is just passing by.

They've a great spirit, but considering the vast majority of those in attendance are of the 'bearded, dreadlocked, african-jumper wearing, white middle-class boys' look, I can't see them winning many more people over. There seems to be few of the average men and women of Ireland there. Which is a pity, because this whole thing could be put down easy with it being referred to as a 'smelly hippies' thing. [Snipped]

And in case they're reading (they've internet access) - good luck lads!

Were you there long at all? I have to disagree on the turnout -- I was at the protest this afternoon (2-5) and I was actually surprised at the mix of people. Sure, there were the stereotypical dreadlocked hippies and posers, but I mingled with a few older people, younger people, varying nationalities, different classes etc.

Would be nice to see an even greater blend, but it's early days yet.

P.s. I'm neither smelly nor a hippy, though I have been a member of the liberal, pinko PC brigade a few times on AH. "Pinko" next to "liberal" always got me. :pac:

Millicent

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

I can see why I may not be making any sense here. Absolutely. There's nothing wrong that THAT video, I just have an issue with the other one I viewed and I'm instantly not interested in watching anymore from them.

Will we agree to leave it at that? :pac:

Ah, gotcha! Sorry, I get where you're coming from now. RTE had camera crew at it though, if you want a different perspective.

the groutch

orourkeda wrote: »

What are they hoping to achieve exactly?

to get more dole money :pac:

chin_grin

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Rabble

1. A tumultuous crowd; a mob.
2. The lowest or coarsest class of people. Often used with the.
3. A group of persons regarded with contempt:



If you use this term for the protesters. What word do you use to describe the people they are protesting against?

My post would just be full of asterisks if I was. ^_^

But of course when I use the term "rabble" I mean 1, not so the rest. Well maybe 3.

SafeSurfer

chin_grin wrote: »

My post would just be full of asterisks if I was. ^_^

But of course when I use the term "rabble" I mean 1, not so the rest. Well maybe 3.

So if you "maybe" regard the protesters with contempt how do you regard those who they are protesting against?

mehfesto

Millicent wrote: »

Where you there long at all? I have to disagree on the turnout -- I was at the protest this afternoon (2-5) and I was actually surprised at the mix of people. Sure, there were the stereotypical dreadlocked hippies and posers, but I mingled with a few older people, younger people, varying nationalities, different classes etc.

Would be nice to see an even greater blend, but it's early days yet.

P.s. I'm neither smelly nor a hippy, though I have been a member of the liberal, pinko PC brigade a few times on AH. "Pinko" next to "liberal" always got me. :pac:

I was there from 2-4 to see what was going on and for about 40 minutes after half 8 (because the gig I was supposed to be at was cack - and they were doling out jobs to do at this stage; security, house keeping, etc.). There was a greater mix earlier on in the day, but bar a few, it's mostly what you'd expect at this sort of thing now. As you say, early days yet. I wish them the best, but I can't see numbers swelling.

I'm sure there will be more support during the day time though, and only the hardcore will stay the night, which is understandable. I'm of the opinion this won't grow. I can't see us lasting as long as the Spanish or Greeks - mostly due to climate and the location they chose. Somewhere more sheltered, nearer public toilets and cheaper food outlets would have been ideal. A lot of people seem very under-supplied for the days and nights ahead too - inappropriate clothing, insufficient water supplies etc.

I think they're intentions are good, but that logistically, they're up against it.

Gee Bag

SafeSurfer wrote: »

So if you "maybe" regard the protesters with contempt how do you regard those who they are protesting against?

With reverence and awe