People who are proud to be overweight and are happy to ignore all the health risks

b743k · 06-10-2011 11:30AM

bnt wrote: »

I get annoyed at people who ignore the concept of Body Mass Index (BMI) just because it's not perfect. They treat it as a yes/no question, when it's not. The discussion goes something like this:

Person 1: I did the calculations on a website and my BMI is 26. Am I overweight?
Person 2: Since the BMI guidelines say >25 is overweight, then yes, you're a bit overweight. Nothing serious.
Person 3: Hang on. BMI does not account for different body types, so 26 is not automatically overweight.
Person 1: So, BMI is useless, then?
Person 3: Yes, it's useless, it's just designed to alarm you and make you buy slimming products.
Person 2: So what's your BMI, then?
Person 3: Don't know. Don't care.
Person 2: It's over 30, isn't it?
Person 3: BMI is useless, it doesn't tell you anything.
Person 2: Yes, there is a margin of error, but if your BMI is well over 30, the only question is just how obese you are!
Person 1: I'm confused.
Person 2: BMI is just a rough guide to your healthy weight. A BMI of 26 is no cause for immediate panic. You can probably get your weight down a bit without going on a diet. But don't aim for a particular BMI such as 22 - that's not the point. The 20-25 you hear is a range of numbers with room for variation between different people.
Person 3: BMI is useless! It's not perfect!

I agree, it's not perfect but unless you are very short, very tall or very muscular it should be about right. I know of a very heavy guy who ignores it because 'sure the whole Irish rugby team would be overweight or obese with that thing'. The Irish rugby team is fit, healthy and muscular so it doesn't work for them but that doesn't mean it's sh1t.

Kadongy · 06-10-2011 11:30AM

I saw that too. Over 12k likes. Didn't read it properly.

Here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2545702521962.2154719.1235752135&type=3

I've been thinking about this a bit - the way overweight female celebrities are seen as heroines or something while underweight ones get slagged off and demonised. It's just because the fat ones make fat women feel better about themselves. Not as much better as losing some weight would - but whatever.

Guy:Incognito · 06-10-2011 11:34AM

Could be worse, they could be smokers.

coconut5 · 06-10-2011 11:38AM

ebixa82 wrote: »

If fat people didn't increase demands on the health system and the cost of running it (as a result of their associated health problems) I wouldn't care. But they do.

This is the most ridiculous argument you can have, in my opinion, as everyone places demands on the health system in some way. People that drive too fast and cause accidents, people that smoke, people that drink too much and end up in A and E, people that work too long in the office which causes stress and increases the risk of a whole range of diseases, I could go on.

Basically, everyone does things that are not ideal for their health or wellbeing, so why go on about one group of people that does this?

I understand that obesity is a problem and should be addressed, but I just don't buy into your argument that you wouldn't care if it wasn't for the health system.

FetchTheGin · 06-10-2011 11:38AM

b743k wrote: »

We women, we gain weight because we accumulate so much wisdom and knowledge that there isn't enough space in our heads, and it spreads all over our bodies.
We are not fat, we are greatly cultivated.
Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?!'

I can see it now, after the Irish Slutwalk we will have the Irish Women Fatwalk, "we are not fat, we are extremely knowledgeable!", the placards will say. :rolleyes:

Smyth · 06-10-2011 11:39AM

What a warped way of thinking

phelo2121 · 06-10-2011 11:42AM

Most ppl who are overweight have low self esteem issues and if they want to portray that their comfortable with that why not let as none of us are in their head and we don't know how they feel about it, we don't know anything that's going on with them wether their suffering from depression or if there's medical reasons behind it etc there's very few ppl with out a weakness wether it drinking smoking or eating and overeating can be classed as an eating disorder in some ppl would ye all be so hard on an anorexic, I'm not saying its ok to be overweight but its a persons choice as well and ppl shouldn't be so quick to presume a person is overweight cos their lazy and stuff their face!

TheZohanS · 06-10-2011 11:43AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Could be worse, they could be smokers.

Fat Nigerian smokers that are single mothers and on the dole.

Seachmall · 06-10-2011 11:44AM

phelo2121 wrote: »

ppl shouldn't be so quick to presume a person is overweight cos their lazy and stuff their face!

Most of them are.

It's not a coincidence you'll see more fat people in McDonalds than in a Gym.

FetchTheGin · 06-10-2011 11:44AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Fat Nigerian smokers that are single mothers and on the dole, while dey turk er jobs.

FYP.

bicardi19 · 06-10-2011 11:45AM

b743k wrote: »

Every time I see my curves in the mirror, I tell myself: "How amazing am I ?!' [/B]

How the hell can you tell yourself a question.
You mean you ask yourself!
You "tell" yourself because you know its all a load of bollocks and you're just fat!

reprazant · 06-10-2011 11:46AM

I like how on AH, its as if only women get fat.

I would hazard a guess that quite of few of the lads posting on this thread slagging off fat women are themselves overweight.

lamai · 06-10-2011 11:47AM

It's twats like gok wan who make people think it is ok to be obese

FetchTheGin · 06-10-2011 11:49AM

reprazant wrote: »

I like how on AH, its as if only women get fat.

I would hazard a guess that quite of few of the lads posting on this thread slagging off fat women are themselves overweight.

No, it's not slagging off women, before you fire off the auld gender bull****, it is people slagging the sheer denial of these idiots.

You aren't fat because you are whale with a social life, it is because you're eating too much, simple.

That and its after hours.

bicardi19 · 06-10-2011 11:50AM

reprazant wrote: »

I like how on AH, its as if only women get fat.

I would hazard a guess that quite of few of the lads posting on this thread slagging off fat women are themselves overweight.

In the text it referred to We Women......

Big Nasty · 06-10-2011 11:51AM

Say it once and say it loud: 'I'm fat and I'm proud!' :pac:

Hangballlouie · 06-10-2011 11:51AM

Remember fat people.

Guns don't kill people, rashers do!

reprazant · 06-10-2011 11:53AM

bicardi19 wrote: »

In the text it referred to We Women......

Fair enough, the title of the thread refers to everyone though.

I still think though that a fair percentage the lads slagging off fat people in this thread are themselves overweight.

Seachmall · 06-10-2011 11:53AM

reprazant wrote: »

I would hazard a guess that quite of few of the lads posting on this thread slagging off fat women are themselves overweight.

Almost guaranteed.

50% of men are overweight and 20% are obese.

After a quick Google I'm ~7kg/m2 overweight (~2kg/m2 of that makes me obese).

5'7" @ ~200lbs

Knew I was overweight, didn't realize I was obese.

Yay for me

b743k · 06-10-2011 11:54AM

bicardi19 wrote: »

In the text it referred to We Women......

The text was taken from a woman's facebook account and mentioned women but the thread is about the changing attitude of being overweight in general, both genders.

phelo2121 · 06-10-2011 11:54AM

God ye all must be perfect ppl, no one here with any bad habits at all!

Chuck Stone · 06-10-2011 12:01PM

Fat people need lovin' too.

6tf 1in 194lbs BMI 25.6

bicardi19 · 06-10-2011 12:01PM

reprazant wrote: »

Fair enough, the title of the thread refers to everyone though.

I still think though that a fair percentage the lads slagging off fat people in this thread are themselves overweight.

Women are capable of slagging of fat people to not just men!!!

phelo2121 · 06-10-2011 12:05PM

Seachmall wrote: »

phelo2121 wrote: »

ppl shouldn't be so quick to presume a person is overweight cos their lazy and stuff their face!

Most of them are.

It's not a coincidence you'll see more fat people in McDonalds than in a Gym.

Yeah and there's plenty of skinny ppl there to ppl just take more notice of the overweight person and maybe their not in the gym cos their working out at home cos the feel bad about themselves cost judgmental ppl like nearly everyone on this forum! I see plenty of overweight ppl in the gym I go to!

The King of Moo · 06-10-2011 12:12PM

reprazant wrote: »

I like how on AH, its as if only women get fat.

I would hazard a guess that quite of few of the lads posting on this thread slagging off fat women are themselves overweight.

I'm currently losing weight as I was carrying too much belly for my liking. I'm a man, and I don't think it's only women who get fat.

I'm sure there's an equal proportion of fat men, and I also don't like the common male justifications for not trying to lose weight: ie, it's hard (I've lost about 10kg in two months without starving myself and have noticeable lost weight- for most people it's not that hard) or to joke about your beer belly as a defence mechanism, or that it's somehow not manly to lose weight.

Bollocks.

Though I think perhaps men are less likely overall to post on facebook about how they're proud of being overweight, we have our own ways of not dealing with the problem.

The King of Moo · 06-10-2011 12:14PM

phelo2121 wrote: »

God ye all must be perfect ppl, no one here with any bad habits at all!

That's not the point.

I think most people posting here would be fine with someone who was overweight and accepted that.

It's the people who are in denial about it that are annoying.

I'm far from perfect but I don't pretend that I'm not or try to pretend that my faults are in fact virtues.

06-10-2011 12:19PM

Curvy is a size 10 with decent tits, not some fat lump of a thing, because lots of lads are willing to ride and marry big birds, fat yokes reckon they are hot.

I'm 16 stone btw.

phelo2121 · 06-10-2011 12:23PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

phelo2121 wrote: »

God ye all must be perfect ppl, no one here with any bad habits at all!

That's not the point.

I think most people posting here would be fine with someone who was overweight and accepted that.

It's the people who are in denial about it that are annoying.

I'm far from perfect but I don't pretend that I'm not or try to pretend that my faults are in fact virtues.

And its great u have the Confidence to admit ur not perfect but most ppl don't so does that mean we should judge them even more? So what if they put up a front if it makes them feel better, their the ones that have to deal with it not us!

Seachmall · 06-10-2011 12:24PM

phelo2121 wrote: »

And its great u have the Confidence to admit ur not perfect but most ppl don't so does that mean we should judge them even more? So what if they put up a front if it makes them feel better, their the ones that have to deal with it not us!

They can put up any front they want, but if they try and feed us BS lines about how fat = beautiful/good/whatever we're going to call them out on it.

Logical Fallacy · 06-10-2011 12:25PM

phelo2121 wrote: »

And its great u have the Confidence to admit ur not perfect but most ppl don't so does that mean we should judge them even more? So what if they put up a front if it makes them feel better, their the ones that have to deal with it not us!

Odd....because a couple of posts ago you were trying to make people posting in the thread feel bad about any flaws they might have.

Back track much?

People who are proud to be overweight and are happy to ignore all the health risks

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