Irish first policy for jobs

air assault · 03-10-2011 10:35AM #1

Some people may take offence to this but dont you think its time that we looked after our own people first, after all this is Ireland, the land of the Irish. Take applying for jobs for example i think we should bring in a law that says that Irish people should have first prefernce and only when the employer cannot find suitable candiates from the Irish people applying for that job, they can hire another national thats in the country already and not bring them in from abroad like what is happening at the moment in alot of the service industries.

Ickle Magoo · 03-10-2011 10:41AM

What about people from other countries who live in Ireland Vs Irish people who have just moved back? Or people from other countries who have been living/paying taxes here for years? Who gets preference there?

Think it's a fairly unworkable policy tbh...and one that would cause outrage here if implemented anywhere else that adversely affected irish people.

Iwannahurl · 03-10-2011 10:42AM

Two steps need to be completed first, IMO.

1. Ireland must leave the EU (which may mean repaying a lot of money).

2. All Irish emigrants must be repatriated (which would mean longer job applicant and dole queues).

Temptamperu · 03-10-2011 10:42AM

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!!!

Mr Benevolent · 03-10-2011 10:43AM

Experience and capability first is a much better approach.

Genghiz Cohen · 03-10-2011 10:43AM

DEY DURK ER DURRRRRR!!!

EDIT:

Temptamperu wrote: »

THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!!!!!

BASTARD!

sensibleken · 03-10-2011 10:44AM

No id rather work with the most competant people. If you implement such a policy most multinationals will up sticks and leave as they cant hire the best people

seamus · 03-10-2011 10:47AM

air assault wrote: »

Take applying for jobs for example i think we should bring in a law that says that Irish people should have first prefernce and only when the employer cannot find suitable candiates from the Irish people applying for that job, they can hire another national thats in the country already and not bring them in from abroad like what is happening at the moment in alot of the service industries.

How is this any different from how it operates at the moment?

People apply for jobs, the best candidate gets the job. Or are you trying to say that if Irish people apply for a job, then the employer has to give it to one of them, no matter how crap they are? If the best Irish candidate is crap, then he's not suitable for the job, so he gives it to someone else.

Should the employer not be allowed to pick the best candidate that's allowed to work here, regardless of nationality?

Forcing employers to accept poor quality employees isn't exactly going to be good for the economy.

hooradiation · 03-10-2011 10:48AM

air assault wrote: »

Some people may take offence to this but dont you think its time that we looked after our own people first, after all this is Ireland, the land of the Irish. Take applying for jobs for example i think we should bring in a law that says that Irish people should have first prefernce and only when the employer cannot find suitable candiates from the Irish people applying for that job, they can hire another national thats in the country already and not bring them in from abroad like what is happening at the moment in alot of the service industries.

So, your solution to the current unemployment levels is to limit the pool of people from which employers can reasonably hire?

Bravo, sir. Bra-fucking-vo.

Sergeant · 03-10-2011 10:49AM

I'd never visit a house of ill repute again.

The King of Moo · 03-10-2011 10:50AM

I'd prefer to know a competent person was doing the job.

If it was a choice between an Irish person and an immigrant who's been here for a while, integrated a bit and is slightly, I'd go for the non-national.

I'm also sure there are many sectors where employers would love to employ Irish workers but they're not out there in those sectors and they have to look abroad.

Kintarō Hattori · 03-10-2011 10:51AM

I'd rather the best person for the job.

goose2005 · 03-10-2011 10:55AM

Would violate a dozen laws, make next to no difference to unemployment.

Manach · 03-10-2011 11:00AM

This is a poor initial idea. Not only might it remove skilled workers from the country, it would jeopardise Irish employment opportunites abroad.

biko · 03-10-2011 11:13AM

I can work with anyone, as long as they have a Galway accent.

Sergeant · 03-10-2011 11:14AM

biko wrote: »

I can work with anyone, as long as they have a Galway accent.

Warty Nora?

biko · 03-10-2011 11:29AM

Sitting next to me in the office right now.

Paddy Cow · 03-10-2011 11:52AM

biko wrote: »

Sitting next to me in the office right now.

I had to help her put on her coat one day. I was leaving the post office and she was ahead of me. She grabbed my arm and shoved her jacket into it and made me hold it open so she could get her arms in. She stinks and I couldn't get out of there fast enough. I feel dirty just thinking about it

She used to come into the branch of Supermacs I worked in and we were forever chasing her out. She would sit down next to customers and start taking food off their plates at breakfast. Horrible woman *vomits*

Standard Toaster · 03-10-2011 11:58AM

They have this policy in Austraila and New Zealand already don't they?

Mena · 03-10-2011 12:02PM

Standard Toaster wrote: »

They have this policy in Austraila and New Zealand already don't they?

Probably, but then they're not part of the EU.

This policy is already in effect in Ireland for any non-EU people unless they have permanent residency already.

MidlandsM · 03-10-2011 04:55PM

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Two steps need to be completed first, IMO.

1. Ireland must leave the EU (which may mean repaying a lot of money).

2. All Irish emigrants must be repatriated (which would mean longer job applicant and dole queues).

what are you on about? We would have to repay fcuk all.

:D;)

mr.wiggle · 03-10-2011 06:21PM

air assault wrote: »

Some people may take offence to this but dont you think its time that we looked after our own people first, after all this is Ireland, the land of the Irish. Take applying for jobs for example i think we should bring in a law that says that Irish people should have first prefernce and only when the employer cannot find suitable candiates from the Irish people applying for that job, they can hire another national thats in the country already and not bring them in from abroad like what is happening at the moment in alot of the service industries.

Anyone else amazed that the AH community has not trolled the crap outta this ? Must have some merits then !

One flaw in this idea, is that employers in this environment are just looking for the cheapest labour they can find. Never mind about the qualifications. Sure , it might help to have previous experience and qualifications, but its all about the money, money..money !!!

Outkast_IRE · 03-10-2011 06:23PM

Well i hear policies such as this are doing wonders in south africa
:rolleyes:

mikemac · 03-10-2011 06:26PM

Iwannahurl wrote: »

Two steps need to be completed first, IMO.

2. All Irish emigrants must be repatriated (which would mean longer job applicant and dole queues).

People always bring this up

Irish people are working abroad therefore we cannot set new immigration policies here it seems. Every Irish emigrant must be back here before we can even look at it, such nonsense

Yes there are undocumented Irish in the USA. Let the USA sort their own issues out
How about other countries look after their policies and we will do the same here?

Oranage2 · 03-10-2011 06:28PM

I love the line they took our jobs but how many of those people actually applied?

Also its no secret at this stage but a person with a kid it twice better off on welfare than working for minimum wage!

Also the not so nationalistic secret is that Irish people are un reliable and lazy - I can see why somebody would hire somebody with basic english over Paddy Murphy who will most likely call in sick at least once a month and be late all the time!

Kev_ps3 · 03-10-2011 06:28PM

air assault wrote: »

Some people may take offence to this but dont you think its time that we looked after our own people first, after all this is Ireland, the land of the Irish. Take applying for jobs for example i think we should bring in a law that says that Irish people should have first prefernce and only when the employer cannot find suitable candiates from the Irish people applying for that job, they can hire another national thats in the country already and not bring them in from abroad like what is happening at the moment in alot of the service industries.

Sounds sensible to me, dont listen to the crazy broads liberals.

Pherekydes · 03-10-2011 06:29PM

Brilliant idea!

We can repatriate all those foreign doctors and replace them with locals off the dole queues.

mikemac · 03-10-2011 06:34PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Also the not so nationalistic secret is that Irish people are un reliable and lazy -

If you go abroad with no welfare and no backup you may value the job more then the local

Simple as that

Irish workers are no better or worse then any other nation. Every country has trojan workers and slackers

4leto · 03-10-2011 06:36PM

So this is what happens, when the going gets tough, we get xenophobic. What an ugly and very illegal policy to adopt.

The OP should read a bit of history as to were all this can lead.

mr.wiggle · 03-10-2011 06:53PM

4leto wrote: »

So this is what happens, when the going gets tough, we get xenophobic. What an ugly and very illegal policy to adopt.

The OP should read a bit of history as to were all this can lead.

In fairness to the OP 4leto, i don't think his post reads as xenophobic, its just a question asked really. I know its a scary topic to post about, as you can be quickly labelled a racist, but it is an interesting one.
I think the point about 'lazy paddies' is a typical reply, it just goes to show what we think of ourselves really. But are we just lazy, or is the social welfare situation so out of control that we can afford to not take available jobs? But thats another thread really!
I'll stick my neck out and say that I agree with the OP, but it's never going to happen as our politicians are too PC and afraid of the racist label.

Mr.W

air assault · 04-10-2011 11:22AM

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

What about people from other countries who live in Ireland Vs Irish people who have just moved back? Or people from other countries who have been living/paying taxes here for years? Who gets preference there?

Think it's a fairly unworkable policy tbh...and one that would cause outrage here if implemented anywhere else that adversely affected irish people.

people returning to ireland that are irish will have priority over others applying for the job. then if the employer cannot fins suitable irish people for the job other nationalities will get it

Irish first policy for jobs

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