Paul Kehoe - getting sacked in the morning?

slapbangwallop · 02-10-2011 04:17PM #1

Talk about asking to get sued. Not really the smartest of moves.

From his twitter

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Four hours ago he said - "Gay has MC Guinness under pressure on newstalk."

Fair play, giving your colleague a bit of support.

Then followed that with - "I wouldn`t trust martin MC Guinness to take my dog for a walk"

OK a little nasty - but always fair in love and war etc!

Then he ended with this ditty - "Why would you need your salary when you have the proceeds of the northern bank at your disposal" :eek:

Fuppin hell thats some accusation for a public official to b making, even if he believes it to be true.

A sackable offence or just claim your twitter was "hacked"?

LaFlammeRouge · 02-10-2011 04:20PM

Let McGuinness sue LOL

Richard tea · 02-10-2011 04:21PM

He should be sacked. He should know better. Party leaders should ban all members from twitter and social networks. They cant be trusted to behave themselves.

The Waltzing Consumer · 02-10-2011 04:21PM

Let him sue :pac:

Where To · 02-10-2011 04:24PM

What could McGuiness sue for?

ItsAWindUp · 02-10-2011 04:26PM

where do i go from here wrote: »

What could McGuiness sue for?

You are having a laugh? He accused him of having a hand in the Northern Bank robbery!

02-10-2011 04:26PM

Very unprofessional.

He'll need proof for accusations like that. Could be in big trouble.

charlemont · 02-10-2011 04:29PM

Serious accusation to make.

Reloc8 · 02-10-2011 04:32PM

Anyone seriously think Martin McGuinness will launch a court case which will throw open all of his behaviour in connection with potentially criminal activities ?

If anything the title to this thread is more likely to get boards.ie and the OP sued.

Seriously.

ilovelamp2000 · 02-10-2011 04:34PM

ItsAWindUp wrote: »

You are having a laugh? He accused him of having a hand in the Northern Bank robbery!

and ?

4leto · 02-10-2011 04:34PM

Ha Ha another twitter or tweet cock up

Twitter is muttering, its something you mutter to yourself, but like all mutterings they should be kept to yourself.

I am afraid if it was him who made the public allegation and publicised it, he is liable.

But how do you prove it was him, there are ways you can prove which IP address it came from, but that is not proof he made the tweet.

But if newstalk want a rep of a fair and unbiased media, the have to sack him, they don't need a real excuse to sack anyone, all they have to say he was doing a crap job.

The Waltzing Consumer · 02-10-2011 04:39PM

In order to plead fair comment, the publisher must be able to show that

the report was on a matter of public interest
the statement was a comment, rather than a fact and
the comment was fair, in that the belief was honestly held

Can people argue why any of these three cannot be used to defend the tweet? It is certainly a matter of public interest, it was a comment rather than a fact and the comment is fair because he would honestly hold that view.

4leto · 02-10-2011 04:43PM

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

In order to plead fair comment, the publisher must be able to show that

the report was on a matter of public interest
the statement was a comment, rather than a fact and
the comment was fair, in that the belief was honestly held

Can people argue why any of these three cannot be used to defend the tweet? It is certainly a matter of public interest, it was a comment rather than a fact and the comment is fair because he would honestly hold that view.

No it was not, it was never proven that Martin Mc Guinness had any part in that robbery.

I sincerely doubt he even knew about it at the time it took place, we was involved with the assembly at that time.

So it was not a fair comment. It was opinionated.

Biggins · 02-10-2011 04:44PM

I think Paul Kehoe has done himself no good career-wise for a while.
Sacked? I dunno but certainly not the best tweet he could have made.
He should have really known better. He let himself down.

ilovelamp2000 · 02-10-2011 04:45PM

4leto wrote: »

No it was not, it was never proven that Martin Mc Guinness had any part in that robbery.

I sincerely doubt he even knew about it at the time it took place, we was involved with the assembly at that time.

So it was not a fair comment. It was opinionated.

Does it diminish McGuinness' reputation ?

given his history it probably doesn't.

The Waltzing Consumer · 02-10-2011 04:46PM

4leto wrote: »

No it was not, it was never proven that Martin Mc Guinness had any part in that robbery.

I sincerely doubt he even knew about it at the time it took place, we was involved with the assembly at that time.

So it was not a fair comment. It was opinionated.

Yeah, you kinda just added to the second point, that it was not presented as a fact but as a comment.

The first point, public interest, of course, this is a man running for President so that argument will stand 100%.

You have argued but actually backed up the second point, that it is a comment not a fact.

The third point, well only the author can say he honestly believes that, but you can be sure they can argue that.

My name is URL · 02-10-2011 04:47PM

I don't see the point in any TD attacking any of the presidential candidates. On the very slight chance that McGuinness wins the election, the TD's who so aggressively decry him are going to be left with eggs on their faces when they have to work alongside him. At worst it makes a mockery of governance in this country when democratically elected representatives are able to use their bestowed position to interfere with another aspect of democratic will.

Political commentators and journalists are well able to manage on their own without TD's being vitriolic towards the candidates.

hondasam · 02-10-2011 04:50PM

4leto wrote: »

No it was not, it was never proven that Martin Mc Guinness had any part in that robbery.

I sincerely doubt he even knew about it at the time it took place, we was involved with the assembly at that time.

So it was not a fair comment. It was opinionated.

Most people think the Provisional IRA were responsible,If they were Martin McGuinness knew about it.

RachaelVO · 02-10-2011 04:50PM

A serious accusation to make, but I have to say, it's quiet funny!

That would be one civil suit you could sell tickets for!

4leto · 02-10-2011 04:54PM

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

Does it diminish McGuinness' reputation ?

given his history it probably doesn't.

No but it aids his campaign it means others can't imply other unproven comments which he probably has some guilt over, which seem to be bandied about the media about him.

Someone was eventually going to be pulled on one of them. That happens to be Paul Kehoe.

I THINK I may have heard one from V Brown, but largely I think he is not against M Mc Guinness.

4leto · 02-10-2011 04:56PM

hondasam wrote: »

Most people think the Provisional IRA were responsible,If they were Martin McGuinness knew about it.

Not necessarily, the IRA does have errant members and it was largely stepping down at that time.

But it doesn't matter what people think, it matters what can be proven.

cosanostra · 02-10-2011 04:57PM

I suppose when your own candidate is no good then you need to bring the opposition down by any means, even fabricating stories!

mikom · 02-10-2011 04:58PM

I await the "Paul Kehoe twitter account hacked" get-out clause.

hondasam · 02-10-2011 05:00PM

4leto wrote: »

Not necessarily, the IRA does have errant members and it was largely stepping down at that time.

But it doesn't matter what people think, it matters what can be proven.

True I suppose. Did you read his interview in the Daily Mail yesterday?
He still avoids answering the questions.

Biggins · 02-10-2011 05:02PM

mikom wrote: »

I await the "Paul Kehoe twitter account hacked" get-out clause.

They are possibly busy using that excuse at the moment for Fine Gael!
See: http://www.thejournal.ie/twitter-attack-on-mcguinness-launched-from-chief-whips-account-243201-Oct2011/

Mr Kehoe and co will have to wait in line.

CiaranMT · 02-10-2011 05:11PM

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Sir Oxman · 02-10-2011 05:12PM

Hogan's comments were just as bad - absolute rubbish spouted.
How about FG ministers campaign positively for their own candidate? Even one piece of positivity about why we should back Gay Mitchell?
Bit difficult for 'big' Phil seeing as he was prime mover behind Mr Cox in the FG presidential debacle!

I am seriously annoyed by FG in this election.
They are doing themselves absolutely no favours.

02-10-2011 05:19PM

gambiaman wrote: »

Hogan's comments were just as bad - absolute rubbish spouted.
How about FG ministers campaign positively for their own candidate? Even one piece of positivity about why we should back Gay Mitchell?
Bit difficult for 'big' Phil seeing as he was prime mover behind Mr Cox in the FG presidential debacle!

I am seriously annoyed by FG in this election.
They are doing themselves absolutely no favours.

They know Mitchell hasn't a hope.

wild_cat · 02-10-2011 05:22PM

This is what happens when you elect a farm boy.

I'm still waiting for his response to an email from before the last election where I asked him for his opinion on parish pump politics......

Biggins · 02-10-2011 05:23PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

They know Mitchell hasn't a hope.

True.
(And thank heavens!)

Sir Oxman · 02-10-2011 05:28PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

They know Mitchell hasn't a hope.

And so now they go for a negative campaign - senior state officials who will have to work with the next President who may or may not be the one they are attacking without one bit of thought amongst them.

By engaging in such absolute rubbish in todays S.Independent (no impeachment process, really 'Big' Phil? - US MNCs not investing in lowtax EU member Ireland because of a possible Pres McGuinness, really 'Big' Phil?), Hogan is showing himslef up as a complete eejit or he's relying on his lies to soak up a few more percentage points for anyone but McGuinness.

And he has the cheek to say if people democratically vote McG as President, Ireland will be seen as a Banana Republic!
Too late 'Big' Phil, way too late for that!

I know where my vote will not be going for sure.

Paul Kehoe - getting sacked in the morning?

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