Exams - drug testing beforehand?

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:22AM #1

I have noticed that a lot of people tend to take drugs like ritalin, kat, speed and other bogey junk in the run up to professional/college exams. Now, I am no genius, but does that not constitute some sort of cheating?

The solution: All students must pass a drug test for any illicit substances which extends back to at least 3 months. Just because your GPA is 4.0, that does not mitigate the fact you abuse performance drugs to maintain it. I would be more impressed if you could achieve that on your own.

Personally, this is currently the worst form of cheating in my opinion. Yet goes unchecked.

tvnutz · 26-09-2011 12:23AM

Get out.

Helix · 26-09-2011 12:23AM

have you any idea how much that would cost the state?

and lets be honest here, there aren't many drugs that would increase performance in an exam

Temptamperu · 26-09-2011 12:23AM

Whats a GPA

and can i have a 6.7?

Stained Class · 26-09-2011 12:25AM

What if you study real hard?

Or your parents happen to be bright?

Is that cheating too?

Hank_Jones · 26-09-2011 12:25AM

What sort of drugs would I be testing?

Aoifey! · 26-09-2011 12:26AM

I reeeally don't think Speed would help you in an exam.

Seachmall · 26-09-2011 12:26AM

Temptamperu wrote: »

Whats a GPA and can i have a 6.7?

Grade Point Average, max is 4.0.

OT, I don't see the harm in using a drug to study if it means your retain the information. It's not a competition. Of course if the drug caused you to only retain the information for the exam (thus nullifying the exam) I might consider it cheating. Although isn't that how exams work? Learning information to pass an exam, then forgetting it and then learning what you actually need to know on the job?

mackg · 26-09-2011 12:26AM

i take viagra before exams to make it harder.

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:27AM

mackg wrote: »

i take viagra before exams to make it harder.

Someone is quick.

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:29AM

Stained Class wrote: »

is that cheating too?

No. I would class the drug taking in the same catagory as cheat notes and the like.

Stained Class · 26-09-2011 12:29AM

Aoifey! wrote: »

I reeeally don't think Speed would help you in an exam.

Maybe not, but you'll be finished before everyone else.:pac:

Sid_Justice · 26-09-2011 12:29AM

do you know how much it would cost to do that. like millions.

jdooley28 · 26-09-2011 12:30AM

Ha brillaint speed before the exams! Test them for heroin too while you are at it.

Helix · 26-09-2011 12:31AM

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

No. I would class the drug taking in the same catagory as cheat notes and the like.

yeah, nothing like writing an exam while tripping balls and chewing the eyebrow off yourself. guaranteed A that

LH Pathe · 26-09-2011 12:31AM

Sid_Justice wrote: »

do you know how much it would cost to do that. like millions.

Sid Justice >>> Psycho Sid

harmoniums · 26-09-2011 12:31AM

Methamphetamines came up on a drug screening of one of my best employees.
Anybody dedicated enough to take extreme drugs like that to make me a buck is A-OK by me!
I wish all my employees were on speed!

on a serious note, Ritalin/Adderall are prescribed drugs, what of the folks with legitimate reason to use them?

Also OP, look into provigil

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:33AM

Seachmall wrote: »

It's not a competition.

Of course it is. I seen enough bull**** in my college days to suggest otherwise. Bit like the running man, but instead of the possibility of death as a motivator, increased job growth motivates people. Can't imagine many undergrads view it as anything more than:

Good GPA = Good Job prospects!

OT though

Helix · 26-09-2011 12:33AM

what about coffee before the exam? advantage over those who don't drink coffee and are tired after a night's studying right?

or the guy who has a smoke outside beforehand to settle his nerves compared to the non smoker who's bricking it

General General · 26-09-2011 12:38AM

Yiz can test whoever yiz like now boyzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I got my degree.

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:39AM

Helix wrote: »

what about coffee before the exam? advantage over those who don't drink coffee and are tired after a night's studying right?

or the guy who has a smoke outside beforehand to settle his nerves compared to the non smoker who's bricking it

Enforced limits on those drugs and an outright ban on crap like ritalin.

Bannasidhe · 26-09-2011 12:40AM

Aoifey! wrote: »

I reeeally don't think Speed would help you in an exam.

Only if you enclosed some for the poor corrector who had to try and read the billy whizz scrawl!

meoklmrk91 · 26-09-2011 12:45AM

I'm really not sure that these drugs have any real effects on the actual result of the exam, I think it mostly just gives people the thought that they have an edge so they should do better than they would have normally, the placebo effect if you will. However if you can prove otherwise... please do.

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:53AM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I'm really not sure that these drugs have any real effects on the actual result of the exam, I think it mostly just gives people the thought that they have an edge so they should do better than they would have normally, the placebo effect if you will. However if you can prove otherwise... please do.

I think it's common knowledge at this point that methamphetamines increase performance and retention. If they didn't, why would people be taking them? Sneaky too.

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 12:54AM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

the placebo effect if you will..

Overdose on Adderall and come back to me with "the placebo effect". It's basically cocaine under the guise of some requirement for a nonsensical "disease" like ADHD.

General General · 26-09-2011 12:56AM

I drop some LSD before my first year 1 Cultural Studies exam on Identity. I got a f.uc.king PhD for it.

Laisurg · 26-09-2011 12:57AM

Taking drugs to improve concentration and reduce anxiety in exams happens quite a bit in the states apparently but I've never heard of it happening over here.
It's nothing like speed though... I can't imagine that helping you much in an exam :pac:

Jev/N · 26-09-2011 12:59AM

With an idea like this, what the fuck have you been taking?!

TheyKnowMyIP · 26-09-2011 01:01AM

Jev/N wrote: »

With an idea like this, what the fuck have you been taking?!

I've been shooting up idealistic optimism. Reality tends to be a downer though.

Solair · 26-09-2011 01:02AM

They test for the use of steroids in sport because it increases muscle mass and tone.

However, no stimulant is going to improve your exam performance. If anything it would undermine your results and probably leave you writing manic, weird, crazy, rambling, rubbish that you thought was brilliant.

There'd be no point in testing anyone as nothing that you could take would enhance your mental performance. It's not weight lifting!

Also, the bigger concern would be that many students take performance degrading drugs anyway, particularly alcohol but also hash etc.

meoklmrk91 · 26-09-2011 01:05AM

TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »

I think it's common knowledge at this point that methamphetamines increase performance and retention. If they didn't, why would people be taking them? Sneaky too.

And this is scientifically proven?, I would have thought the only real plus to taking speed is the fact that you can stay awake for a very long time and not feel tired. Therefore being capable of spending more time studying therefore taking more in.

Exams - drug testing beforehand?

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