Arthur's Day is a load of bollix: Discuss

Feisar · 21-09-2011 11:02AM

I don't mind Arthur's Day because I like stouts but I'm not going to take a Friday off because of it.

The whole Guinness is intrinsically Irish thing is crap anyway.

A Couple of points:

Arthur Guinness was a Protestant Landlord
Stouts were invented in England
Arthur went to London and came back with a stout/porter recipe (previously Guinness brewed an ale)
Guinness wouldn't employ a Catholic in a management position until '72 when they were forced to

I'm not bashing England/Protestants, all I'm saying is Guinness isn't as Irish as they make out.

Also I'm not saying Protestants aren't Irish but at the time the landed gentry could hardly be considered Irish.

Oh and Guinness is a fairly unremarkable stout. Try Fullers London Porter, probably one of the best I've drank. Or Wasslers xxxx available in the Porter House. It's serious stuff.

EggsAckley · 21-09-2011 11:03AM

O'Hara's Leann Follain all the way

Logical Fallacy · 21-09-2011 11:04AM

The day is sad enough as it is...the whole "It's an excuse to have a drink" thing is just sadder.

If you want a ****ing pint just have on ffs.

Seachmall · 21-09-2011 11:06AM

Giselle wrote: »

Diageo are herding people into establishments that sell their product.

People are following orders, and seemingly not only doing as their told, but thanking them for the opportunity to make them money.

I suppose its a useful service if you are indeed the proverbial who literally can't organise a p1ss up in a brewery by yourself

I can organise a piss up but I can't organise a pub's atmosphere and with no atmosphere there's a risk of a ****e night. Diageo can organise an atmosphere and so there is little risk of a **** night.

It's not about the Guiness (I don't drink it), it's about the guaranteed atmosphere. That atmosphere prompts friends to attend who otherwise wouldn't and there you have the makings of a good night and that's all it's about; a good night.

The Scientician · 21-09-2011 11:06AM

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

If you don't like it, don't take part.

This country seems to be overstocked with nay-sayers. With people who want to suck the good out of everything. So what if it's a promotional tool? It'll bring some people a little fun, and at the end of the day, where's the harm in that?

Quit nay-saying me thread!

Captain Darling · 21-09-2011 11:07AM

EachSmallChime wrote: »

Ah see now you're going off topic. You can run around in circles arguing that the Irish drink too much. Bottom line is that we do and there is very little that can be done about it.

We've already tried complaining and that didnt work so dont bother.

The topic is here is specifically Guinness's marketing campaign "Arthur's Day" so i think your options are to walk around shop street, or plough through the piss and get over it

Err, no. The marketing of it is what entices people to go out and get full of beer. Therefore, in my opinion, i believe its a load of bollox.

Its pathetic that 'there is very little that can be done about it.' Are we a country of total fcuking idiots or something? The solution to that would be dont drink ten pints, drink five pints. Its a retarded view point.

upandcumming · 21-09-2011 11:08AM

EachSmallChime wrote: »

Theres no point in embracing it like its a national or religious holiday, but cheap drink, decent bands and an excuse for a night out!

Cant really complain about that! :D:D

Excuse for a night out. Do you have to ask someone to be let out or something? I don't understand.

Feisar · 21-09-2011 11:10AM

EggsAckley wrote: »

O'Hara's Leann Follain all the way

Been meaning to look this up.

FetchTheGin · 21-09-2011 11:10AM

I would say the Diageo marketing team are watching the festivities on camera and having a good laugh at us. Basically proving the stereotypes right.

Genius campaign though.

Seachmall · 21-09-2011 11:10AM

upandcumming wrote: »

Excuse for a night out. Do you have to ask someone to be let out or something? I don't understand.

Sometimes when people are in college or working going out can be problematic.

jimdeans · 21-09-2011 11:11AM

Seachmall wrote: »

I can organise a piss up but I can't organise a pub's atmosphere and with no atmosphere there's a risk of a ****e night. Diageo can organise an atmosphere and so there is little risk of a **** night.

It's not about the Guiness (I don't drink it), it's about the guaranteed atmosphere. That atmosphere prompts friends to attend who otherwise wouldn't and there you have the makings of a good night and that's all it's about; a good night.

It's very easy to find a crowded pub on a thursday,especially as the colleges are just back.

I'd just feel a bit embarrassed if the only way I can get all my mates out is because diageo tell them to go out. That's just my humbler, though.

NothingMan · 21-09-2011 11:12AM

jimdeans wrote: »

I'll be doubly ashamed for you when you think you're sticking it to me by engaging in Diagio PLC day.

I assure you my only intention is to go out and have a good evening. I won't be sticking it to you or anyone else, unless they're a willing good looking lady...

Minstrel27 · 21-09-2011 11:14AM

Might get a few cans of cider for tomorrow night.

Seachmall · 21-09-2011 11:17AM

jimdeans wrote: »

It's very easy to find a crowded pub on a thursday,especially as the colleges are just back.

Don't live in a college town and don't go to college, it's difficult to find a crowded pub around here on a Thursday.

I'd just feel a bit embarrassed if the only way I can get all my mates out is because diageo tell them to go out.

I work full time, I've mates in 5 different colleges in 3 different counties. A piss-up between all my mates on a week night can be problematic however on nights like Arthur's Day it gives a reason for people to hop on a bus and have a good night that otherwise we wouldn't have.

And stop implying things that have never been said but support your high-horse. Makes you sound like an ass.

listermint · 21-09-2011 11:19AM

jimdeans wrote: »

It's very easy to find a crowded pub on a thursday,especially as the colleges are just back.

I'd just feel a bit embarrassed if the only way I can get all my mates out is because diageo tell them to go out. That's just my humbler, though.

Well your mates must be ready to party 24-7 so, But my normal group of mates wont pop out to a pub to be bored by the crap atmosphere.

most pubs in this country arent a shadow of what they were 3 years ago. Youll not find a packed pub on a thursday unless its some mad drinks promotion or what not such as 3 euro pints somewhere in the city centre.

Feck it if a genius marketing organisation wants to organise the party for us then feck it ill attend and my mates will to, because we dont get everyone in the mood to meet up alot. Thats what happens when your an adult.

But hey enjoy your night at home, I dont give out about you for hating the masses. So dont give out about everyone else.

People are sheep its been proven, But il be a happy sheep on a thursday night . few drinks, good company, bit of music and everyone in good humour.

F-Stop · 21-09-2011 11:20AM

*Raises pint glass* "To Marketing!"

Giselle · 21-09-2011 11:20AM

Seachmall wrote: »

A piss-up between all my mates on a week night can be problematic however on nights like Arthur's Day it gives a reason for people to hop on a bus and have a good night that otherwise we wouldn't have.

So being told to go out by a company that makes drink to go out and buy drink is a good reason to get on a bus. Because otherwise you wouldn't.

Have a great night

kfallon · 21-09-2011 11:21AM

upandcumming wrote: »

Excuse for a night out. Do you have to ask someone to be let out or something? I don't understand.

He doesn't need Diageo telling him when it's right to have a pint either!

I won't be partaking in it but I have no problem with it either. I don't drink midweek anymore so I won't be breaking my habit for this. I shall return to the boozer on Saturday morning!

jimdeans · 21-09-2011 11:22AM

Seachmall wrote: »

Don't live in a college town and don't go to college, it's difficult to find a crowded pub around here on a Thursday.

I work full time, I've mates in 5 different colleges in 3 different counties. A piss-up between all my mates on a week night can be problematic however on nights like Arthur's Day it gives a reason for people to hop on a bus and have a good night that otherwise we wouldn't have.

And stop implying things that have never been said but support your high-horse. Makes you sound like an ass.

But it doesn't give them a reason that's any better than seeing their mates.

Amazing that you can only get your mates together on the say so of diageo.

danniemcq · 21-09-2011 11:23AM

Captain Darling wrote: »

I dont mind people 'enjoying' their pints, as long as they are not falling around the place. I walked through Eyre Square in Galaway last year at seven in the evening and there were a bunch of fcuking ejits stumbling around the place and pissing up against everything that stood upright. Its a fairly pathetic sight to be honest.

after a few years in galway that stuff kinds happens most nights though?

and i'm a Guinness drinker, if you aren't then you don't have to drink guinness on that day, in fact you don't have to go to the pub either. nobody is forcing you!

just wish they didn't insist of having it on thursdays every year. but i suppose Friday is a drinking day anyway!

listermint · 21-09-2011 11:25AM

jimdeans wrote: »

But it doesn't give them a reason that's any better than seeing their mates.

Amazing that you can only get your mates together on the say so of diageo.

As i said, your buddys must be ready to go 24-7 and they must have endless supplies of cash by your reckoning to get them all in the mood both financially and mentally for a night out.

Most normal people are saving / have more mundane jobs / no jobs. But thats ireland right now. Do you begrudge these folks a little bit of midweek smiles ?

Obviously you do it effects your life that adversely.

Seachmall · 21-09-2011 11:25AM

Giselle wrote: »

So being told to go out by a company that makes drink to go out and buy drink is a good reason to get on a bus. Because otherwise you wouldn't.

Have a great night

Ya, same with Paddie's day, 4/20, Rag week and any other excuse to have a mental pissup. Any regular Thursday night would be impossible but on Arthur's Night everyone is going out.

With a ****load of work we can't justify going out on a random night because if it's **** that's a night wasted. If you can guranatee a good night it makes it all easier.

jimdeans wrote:

But it doesn't give them a reason that's any better than seeing their mates.

A GUARANTEED ATMOSPHERE. That's 50% of a good night. Have you ever been to a pub that was dead with **** music playing? It's not fun. On this night, one of few in the year, you can guarantee that atmosphere.

ronan1986 · 21-09-2011 11:25AM

Jesus, some people really are miserable so and so's.

Lots of entertainment put on around the city and good atmosphere in most pubs, I really dont see what the problem is. Ok its essentially a well oiled marketing plan working well but I really dont care, so is everything else drink related. Every drink you have ever drank is a product of some sort of devious marketing plan, thats why most people drink heineken over amstel when essentially its the same ****ing beer. People need to get off their miserable high horse.

Fine, if you dont like the idea dont part-take, but stop being such a miserable person about it.

The point about people pissing in the street and getting sick is valid, but its also valid every weekend night of the year across most cities in the western world. Ok its not ideal, but it is what it is and is obviously a bit worse when a certain drinking event is on.

All I know is that myself and a few friends are gonna meet in town for a few after work pints of the black stuff, enjoy the mix of Irish and international music and have a bit of fun with anyone who is willing.

P.S I will be pissing in a toilet and not the street.

jimdeans · 21-09-2011 11:28AM

listermint wrote: »

As i said, your buddys must be ready to go 24-7 and they must have endless supplies of cash by your reckoning to get them all in the mood both financially and mentally for a night out.

Most normal people are saving / have more mundane jobs / no jobs. But thats ireland right now. Do you begrudge these folks a little bit of midweek smiles ?

Obviously you do it effects your life that adversely.

won't affect my life as I'm working in England at the time.

But when I come back home my friends will be delighted to see me, and I'll call them a week beforehand and arrange a night out.

I won't be going on about how times are tough, and then going out to blow my cash on a marketing campaign.

listermint · 21-09-2011 11:30AM

jimdeans wrote: »

won't affect my life as I'm working in England at the time.

But when I come back home my friends will be delighted to see me, and I'll call them a week beforehand and arrange a night out.

I won't be going on about how times are tough, and then going out to blow my cash on a marketing campaign.

You claim they will, but you sound like a barrel of hilarious laughs.

Wahey Jim is back in town Wahey.....

jimdeans · 21-09-2011 11:30AM

Seachmall wrote: »

hat's 50% of a good night. Have you ever been to a pub that was dead with **** music playing? It's not fun. On this night, one of few in the year, you can guarantee that atmosphere.

I think it's disingenuous to say that your friends have to travel from 5 colleges in 3 counties to get a decent atmosphere somewhere ona thursday night.

Why not just go out on a friday night?

FetchTheGin · 21-09-2011 11:31AM

ronan1986 wrote: »

Jesus, some people really are miserable so and so's.

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Some people are gullible, impressionable idiots too, what a world eh?

EggsAckley · 21-09-2011 11:31AM

Feisar wrote: »

Been meaning to look this up.

I see from your previous posts you like your stout so I'd wager you will not be disappointed.

jimdeans · 21-09-2011 11:32AM

listermint wrote: »

You claim they will, but you sound like a barrel of hilarious laughs.

Wahey Jim is back in town Wahey.....

Always this kind of waffle in Ireland when you say anything about something like Arthur's day.

This type of response is a much of a stereotype as the daft Irish allowing the beer manufacturers tell them when to socilise with their mates.

Giselle · 21-09-2011 11:32AM

Seachmall wrote: »

Ya, same with Paddie's day, 4/20, Rag week and any other excuse to have a mental pissup. .

Remind me again how St Patrick profits personally from St. Patricks Day?

I forgotted it

Arthur's Day is a load of bollix: Discuss

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