Topman makes a Top cock-up!

That's fairly ambiguous t-shirt. If it was a girls t-shirt then people would probably think it's a list of excuses for a argument/tantrum. The fact that people assume it's a reference to domestic violence says more about their prejudices than anything else

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The fact that this was withdrawn under sexism complaints is a disgrace.

Don't get me wrong, the clothes were absolutely disgusting. But in yet another modern example of "equality", these can still be sold anywhere without issues:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mindcircus/139278592/

I'm actually getting so sick of the number of aspects of life where people think it's ok to hold double standards. One set of rules for absolutely everyone I say. If it's not ok for the goose it's not ok for the gander, etc.

By all means ban the Topman stuff but for God's sake why is it ok for young boys to have to put up with taunts like that on girl's clothes and not the other way around?!

Men don't get rocks thrown at them...

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

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By all means ban the Topman stuff...

Ban them? Bit much, don't you think?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I double dare anyone here to draw a picture of a bruised girl and write "but she's a liar" under it and try not to wind up in court. And well you should land up in court, it's disgusting, but so should whoever made the original t shirt as well.

And on what grounds exactly would someone be bringing me to court for drawing that picture?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

By all means ban the Topman stuff but for God's sake why is it ok for young boys to have to put up with taunts like that on girl's clothes and not the other way around?!

Because us men have more class than to wear clothes with idiotic slogans.

This is insane!! Why did everyone presume the first top reffered to domestic violence?? I mean slogan t-shirts have had their day and are a bit naff now, but I don't really see anything wrong here.

I remember buying a top in penneys yeeears back that said "Coffee, Chocolate, Men...some things are better when they're rich" (or words to that effect), and there were loads of similar slogans around. Did men freak out and launch an online tirade? NO!! They took it with good grace and a sense of humour.

Shítstorms like this set the feminist movement back 20 years.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The fact that this was withdrawn under sexism complaints is a disgrace.

So what category should it have been withdrawn under, or do you think it shouldn't be, considering the t-shirt messages are quite obviously sexist in nature and seen as so by many, hence the protests?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, the clothes were absolutely disgusting. But in yet another modern example of "equality", these can still be sold anywhere without issues:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mindcircus/139278592/

I'm actually getting so sick of the number of aspects of life where people think it's ok to hold double standards. One set of rules for absolutely everyone I say. If it's not ok for the goose it's not ok for the gander, etc.

I agree there should be no such double standards as it is harmful to the cause of gender equality for both sexes and I personally would no more approve of misandrist slogans like that than I would misogynistic ones.

We should be furthering mutual understanding and respect in both sexes.
And actually the majority of mainstream feminists would agree with that sentiment I think because after all real feminism is about working for greater equality for both women and men.

Greentopia wrote: »

So what category should it have been withdrawn under, or do you think it shouldn't be, considering the t-shirt messages are quite obviously sexist in nature and seen as so by many, hence the protests?

Explain to me how the t-shirt is sexist? The message is so incredibly vague I don't see how you can make that comment

smash wrote: »

If you really want to see an offensive t-shirt so look at tshirthell.com

I don't think they're funny regardless of whether they're offensive or not.
And no thank's, I'm well past the age to go buying offensive t-shirts so I have no need to check out that site.

Greentopia wrote: »

Because at least in the case of the one with the tick boxes that state-"I'm so sorry, but … You provoked me; I was drunk; I was having a bad day; I hate you; I didn't mean it; I couldn't help it" the common link is that they are all classic excuses said by men to try to excuse or justify domestic violence against women.
Or is that just a remarkable coincidence in your view?

To me they all sound like excuses given by girlfriends who started a pointless row for no reason (I've heard at least half of those excuses for this). It didn't occur to me that it had anything to do with domestic violence until I read the article

dark crystal wrote: »

As far as I can see, it's the "You provoked me" line, which is the dodgy one. It's the most provocative and couldn't really be applied to any of the usual excuses you quoted above. Like, how can you provoke a man into leaving the toilet seat up?? Provoke is usually used in the context of fighting.

As for the "What breed is she?" slogan, it's in bad taste, sure, but not bannable, imo. Most women wouldn't be seen dead in the company of a man who would wear such a pri*kish t-shirt, anyhow.

I wonder how many were actually sold.....

Leaving the toilet seat up is a big issue for a lot of women! haha

You could easily see a situation were a bloke is constantly nagged about the toilet seat and as a result purposely leaves it up to annoy her back. Why? because he was provoked!

Am I missing something here?

Where on that T-shirt does it specificaly say it's about domestic abuse? From what I gather from it is that it's a general excuse tick-box that can be applied for any form of bad behaviour, like they're some sort of "wild" person.

I still wouldn't buy it, looks shìte.