Trinity or ucd. REASONABLE arguments please

Captain Darling · 09-09-2011 11:34AM

Yes.

smash · 09-09-2011 11:54AM

pancakes rule wrote: »

But I'm after getting my first choice in trinity in third round offers which was classical civilisations and modern Irish.

reminds me of.... http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2103/hipsterbaristamajoredin.jpg

Emiko · 09-09-2011 12:06PM

bluewolf wrote: »

they're both ugly campuses

Trinity is ugly?

Gedouddahere.

Orando Broom · 09-09-2011 12:08PM

Better GAA teams in UCD go there.

Duke Leonal Felmet · 09-09-2011 12:23PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

In terms of people and societies, they are both the exact same.

Nah, I went to both. UCD is jock city, it's like a parody of some 1980s American college tv show, except that it's real and the women are more orange and sound more American.

TCD has very sexy, classy women, mainly European accents. (op, just saw that you are a girl, the guys are more classy there also)

As unis, both are fairly equal on the arts front.

It depends what you are into.

later12 · 09-09-2011 12:28PM

pancakes rule wrote: »

I rejected my first cao offer and my plan was to take a gap year and apply for arts in ucd. I wanted to do a double major in English and Irish. But I'm after getting my first choice in trinity in third round offers which was classical civilisations and modern Irish. As much as I love English I can't deny that I would love to do classical civilisations just as much. I think I kinda want to pick the university I'd have more fun at at this stage. Any advice?

I wasn't aware that offers continued down the list if you reject your primary offer?

When did that start happening?

Duke Leonal Felmet · 09-09-2011 12:29PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

Better GAA teams in UCD go there.

Honestly, who cares?

later12 · 09-09-2011 05:08PM

...People who like GAA?

Sports facilities can be a perfectly valid contributing reason as to why one might or might not select a specific campus. UCD has tremendous sports facilities. Trinity doesn't. If I had gone to college in Ireland, it would definitely have impacted upon my choice.

seamus · 09-09-2011 05:10PM

The differences between them are only academic tbh

*ba dum tish*

Orando Broom · 09-09-2011 05:35PM

Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »

Honestly, who cares?

Real men and wimmin who like real men.

RMD · 09-09-2011 05:45PM

polkabunny wrote: »

Let's see, a giant factory (UCD), or a posh college full of twats (TCD)?

Clearly someone didn't get into either.

Duke Leonal Felmet · 09-09-2011 05:48PM

later10 wrote: »

...People who like GAA?

Sports facilities can be a perfectly valid contributing reason as to why one might or might not select a specific campus. UCD has tremendous sports facilities. Trinity doesn't. If I had gone to college in Ireland, it would definitely have impacted upon my choice.

Yeah, cause kicking a ball around for 4 years is more important than your future career.

Sums up jocks, alright.

Duke Leonal Felmet · 09-09-2011 05:48PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

Real men and wimmin who like real men.

Braindead jocks and orange-faced witless skanks.

Good to know.

prettygurrly · 09-09-2011 05:52PM

never heard good stuff about UCD. very big and impersonal. Trinity is smaller and cosier and I'm yet to see lots of strutting and high fives that I saw when working in the UCD Arts Block in 2000.
I'm doing a PhD in Trinity after being in NUI Galway and Queen's so if the choice is UCD v TCD then I'd choose TCD but of the other two, Queen's has one of the best reputations in the world for science but unsure of Arts. NUI Galway seems to let its Arts students through with only 2 weeks of cramming before the exams, it's a joke (well it was when I was there 2002-2006) so for quality I'd go somewhere else. But the craic was mighty and Galway is a great city to "come of age" and live away from home for the first time. Was for me anyway.
Best of luck in your choice, but tbh, you put ancient civilisations in TCD as your first choice for a reason....what was it? that has to be your answer

starlit · 09-09-2011 05:57PM

This youtube video might help make your choice between the two Uni's!? It's funny depending how you view the humour in it!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez7fKVukToI

Orando Broom · 09-09-2011 06:03PM

Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »

Braindead jocks and orange-faced witless skanks.

Good to know.

And no effeminate dandies flouncing around the campus with their trapper keepers of sordid memories under one arm and a sense of disconnect from their family of dairy farmers on the Tipp Limerick border.

Oh how they wistfully stare at the cricketers from the Pav wishing, craving for the familiar yet distant comfort of the sideline at the hurling field as the boys from Birdhill and Toomevara line out for UCD in the Fiztgibbon qualifier.

DermotOH · 09-09-2011 06:16PM

doovdela wrote: »

This youtube video might help make your choice between the two Uni's!? It's funny depending how you view the humour in it!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez7fKVukToI

already posted

Pride Fighter · 09-09-2011 06:18PM

prettygurrly wrote: »

never heard good stuff about UCD. very big and impersonal. Trinity is smaller and cosier and I'm yet to see lots of strutting and high fives that I saw when working in the UCD Arts Block in 2000.
I'm doing a PhD in Trinity after being in NUI Galway and Queen's so if the choice is UCD v TCD then I'd choose TCD but of the other two, Queen's has one of the best reputations in the world for science but unsure of Arts. NUI Galway seems to let its Arts students through with only 2 weeks of cramming before the exams, it's a joke (well it was when I was there 2002-2006) so for quality I'd go somewhere else. But the craic was mighty and Galway is a great city to "come of age" and live away from home for the first time. Was for me anyway.
Best of luck in your choice, but tbh, you put ancient civilisations in TCD as your first choice for a reason....what was it? that has to be your answer

Seems you've little actual experience of UCD. I went there, and made plenty of friends so I know the heads up. As for being big and impersonal, if the OP was to do Greek and Roman Civilisation and Irish she would be in small classes, cause not many do those. If she went for politics, history, economics, commerce or English I'd agree with you, but she is not. UCD's arts degree is only 3 years and is worth the exact same as a 4 year Trinity one. That was the deciding factor for me over Trinity, and I'm glad I made that choice.

Duke Leonal Felmet · 09-09-2011 08:28PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

And no effeminate dandies flouncing around the campus with their trapper keepers of sordid memories under one arm and a sense of disconnect from their family of dairy farmers on the Tipp Limerick border.

Oh how they wistfully stare at the cricketers from the Pav wishing, craving for the familiar yet distant comfort of the sideline at the hurling field as the boys from Birdhill and Toomevara line out for UCD in the Fiztgibbon qualifier.

I quite enjoyed the cricket. No mucksavagery or toothless simpletons with faces like red candle wax.

Like I said, TCD is for gentlemen, UCD is for thugs. I often reminisce chatting up beautiful french ladies in some JCR meeting, quaffing the free wine and nibbling on cheese, and later back to the dorm to give the french lady a taste of Irish pork.

I look back at UCD and all I remember is the ugliness of everything.

Did wonders for my grades, though.

El Siglo · 09-09-2011 10:10PM

At the end of the day college is what you make of it. Having gone to both places I can honestly say there isn't a whole lot that differs. Both have their good points and both have their bad points. I get annoyed when people go on about how 'ugly' or 'impersonal' UCD is, a building is a building and unless you're an architect it shouldn't matter what it looks like, and Trinity can be just as impersonal. TCD isn't full of knobs that like cricket either and it's great being so close to the city centre. All in all it's what you do with your degree that counts.

Duke Leonal Felmet · 09-09-2011 10:17PM

Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »

I quite enjoyed the cricket.

El Siglo wrote: »

At the end of the day college is what you make of it. Having gone to both places I can honestly say there isn't a whole lot that differs. Both have their good points and both have their bad points. I get annoyed when people go on about how 'ugly' or 'impersonal' UCD is, a building is a building and unless you're an architect it shouldn't matter what it looks like, and Trinity can be just as impersonal. TCD isn't full of knobs that like cricket either and it's great being so close to the city centre. All in all it's what you do with your degree that counts.

Nice indirect personal attack, I thought a mod should know better. Ah well.

I went to both. UCD has no atmosphere and very ugly buildings, full to the brim of brainless cretins whose only interests seem to be in sphere-like objects and running headfirst into each other. It is truly a depressing place, just like many parts of Eastern Bloc countries ravaged by Communist stupidity.

Good academically, but fails on all other levels. Unless you are a empty-headed sportsfreak.

longhalloween · 09-09-2011 10:21PM

The Saint wrote: »

Do a useful degree?

I REALLY have to agree with this guy.

I did an arts degree.

I now know my PPS number better than my student number.

For claiming dole and the like....

Dionysus · 09-09-2011 10:25PM

doovdela wrote: »

It's funny depending how you view the humour in it!?

Well, I think you've covered yourself there from all possible objections.

Fluorescence · 09-09-2011 10:35PM

*sigh* Nice to see the ugly UCD comments were brought out early on :pac:. UCD has a beautiful campus once you get away from the Quinn/Newman end. I loved the place when I studied there, and the benefit of getting your Arts degree in 3 years instead of 4 isn't to be sniffed at (1 year's less expenses!). I did French for 1st year and my friend does French in TCD. The teaching and subject matter seemed to be more or less the same. When it comes to Arts at least, both universities are excellent choices. UCD is only a 15-20 minute bus ride out of town too, so distance to travel isn't really a factor worth considering IMO.

If you declined arts in UCD already though you'd have to go with TCD if you want to go into education this year. If you want a gap year, go for UCD next year so it works out even time-wise?

Barrt2 · 09-09-2011 10:39PM

pancakes rule wrote: »

I actually want to point out that I don't actually have much money. I have a single mother who just got laid off cos of cuts and I have to take a gap year to try to get a job to earn money for college fees. And I don't care about the lack of jobs, I'd rather live on next to nothing doing something I love than having a bit of money from a job I hate. I'm used to being poor anyway, I just want some advice on which university would be more welcoming/ have better societies/ nicer people and which one is better for what I want to do.

would it not make more sense looking at those forums on boards and getting feedback from current/past students ? instead of posting to AH or even do your own research it shouldnt be too hard for you ...

bnt · 09-09-2011 11:12PM

Since few people would have done undergraduate degrees at both UCD and TCD, I don't see how this question would get a proper answer.

Though I will second the comments about UCD, where I went: there's far more to it than the Brutalist architecture of the Newman building and James Joyce Library. Richview is 10 minutes walk away, for anyone needing more a more Collegiate environment.

Besides: I've been to the horrid TCD Arts building for guest lectures, so I fail to see how any TCD Arts student gets to call UCD ugly.

cocoshovel · 09-09-2011 11:16PM

Head on down to W.I.T boi. some job!

Jess16 · 09-09-2011 11:24PM

I had a GREAT time at UCD -so great I had to go and do another degree afterwards! Which I was only to happy to do because my time at UCD made me realise that mortgages may be for life but college days are made to be capitalised on!

Bobby42 · 09-09-2011 11:41PM

I think UCD is what you make it really. If all you think of it is that it's a soul destroying concrete jungle then that's all it will be for you.
For the first couple of weeks I absolutely hated the place and wished I had taken up my Trinity offer.
But after a while it just develops a certain charm. You really do have to make the effort to meet people and get involved in things to get a good experience.
If you just go to lectures and never try to talk to people it can be one hell of an isolating place.
I went with UCD over trinity mainly because of choice of subjects. The course I got in trinity had the choice of studying law, russian, polish, or information studies along with the degree. In UCD you just have so much more choice. I did some really interesting psychology and politics modules in 1st year.
The faults that UCD has, and there's loads, just become things you love to hate! Be it the hacks running for SU and there over the top self indulgent speeches or the weird smell of feet in the student bar.
Once you stay on top of your course work, get involved in things, UCD can be a great play to go to college. This just takes more effort than it should, but it can be done!

Pherekydes · 09-09-2011 11:47PM

longhalloween wrote: »

I REALLY have to agree with this guy.

I did an arts degree.

I now know my PPS number better than my student number.

For claiming dole and the like....

That's your fault, not the fault of an Arts degree.

Trinity or ucd. REASONABLE arguments please

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