Outrage Joe! Talk talk staff given a months notice

Phill Ewinn · 08-09-2011 02:01PM #1

What's your view on the closure of talk talk? Can't believe the fuss that's being made over this one company in the media. Surely a month was enough notice to be given to the staff working there.

Aodan83 · 08-09-2011 02:05PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

What's your view on the closure of talk talk? Can't believe the fuss that's being made over this one company in the media. Surely a month was enough notice to be given to the staff working there.

Haven't heard anyone giving out about how much notice they had. 575 jobs is a lot though. Surely they could have had a bit more notice if that many jobs are going!

Wicklowrider · 08-09-2011 02:07PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

What's your view on the closure of talk talk? Can't believe the fuss that's being made over this one company in the media. Surely a month was enough notice to be given to the staff working there.

Is a month long enough for you to go a get a bit of empathy?

Put another way, whose side are you on? The money grabbing and petty politicos or decent human beings we saw on last nights news? How low will you go? Is there no one unfortunate enough to evade snide self serving remarks?

mikemac · 08-09-2011 02:07PM

I think you're a bit harsh OP

Lets hope for you similar doesn't happen in Wickla

newballsplease · 08-09-2011 02:08PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

What's your view on the closure of talk talk? Can't believe the fuss that's being made over this one company in the media. Surely a month was enough notice to be given to the staff working there.

You havent a clue what your talking about. 4 weeks? For the years people put in. As if a huge company like that, didnt have this planned months in advance.
Coming up to the christmas time.
This is the same company that closed the plant down in Sligo aswell.

Its a joke.

The media knew about this before some employees.

Classic sh1t from a sh1t company.

INEEDANID · 08-09-2011 02:10PM

Phill Ewinn wrote: »

What's your view on the closure of talk talk? Can't believe the fuss that's being made over this one company in the media. Surely a month was enough notice to be given to the staff working there.

Over 500 jobs is a lot to be gone. OP you should grown up!:mad:

seamus · 08-09-2011 02:11PM

Yes it is enough notice.

But for a town like Waterford to lose 600 jobs, it's a pretty big deal. After the loss of Waterford Crystal a couple of years back, it's another huge employer gone from the area.

To put it in context, about 1% of Waterford County's total workforce (~45,000 people) were employed by TalkTalk.

In scale/impact terms on the local area it would be like Intel shutting down their Leixlip plant with a month's notice and leaving 5,000 people unemployed.

LeixlipRed · 08-09-2011 02:13PM

Month's notice is grand time to find another job right? :rolleyes:

NothingMan · 08-09-2011 02:14PM

newballsplease wrote: »

Coming up to the christmas time.

Ah now, whatever about the closure etc... It's the start of September, it's not coming up to feckin xmas. Can I at least get my halloween over and done with before we start this.

Mental Mickey · 08-09-2011 02:15PM

OP - I think you've got a serious amount of egg on your face over this one.

Way to go.

stephendevlin · 08-09-2011 02:16PM

NothingMan wrote: »

Ah now, whatever about the closure etc... It's the start of September, it's not coming up to feckin xmas. Can I at least get my halloween over and done with before we start this.

Guaranteed you will see Christmas shops opening up before halloween this year

inforfun · 08-09-2011 02:19PM

LeixlipRed wrote: »

Month's notice is grand time to find another job right? :rolleyes:

With 450.000 out of a job i think a notice time of 5 years might be too short in a lot of cases.

neilthefunkeone · 08-09-2011 02:19PM

Think more people were p1ssed off that RTE announced it before any of the staff were told..

Its a lot of jobs to go in one area.. Feel sorry for the folks down there.. Not a position id like to be in right now..

Penn · 08-09-2011 02:21PM

The trouble isn't just those 575 jobs, it's the knock-on effect it has throughout that whole community. Not only will those people have less money to spend in local businesses, but what about businesses which relied on TalkTalk? For example, any stationary company which TalkTalk used now loses one of their biggest companies, any local delis or takeaways now lose a lot of their lunchtime trade.

A few months ago when a large company went under, they owed a lot of money to a company we do a lot of work for, which means work we were relying on had to be scaled back.

575 jobs gone in one place has a huge impact.

stevenmu · 08-09-2011 02:22PM

While there is a lot of fuss being made over some of the details that don't really matter, I think you have to realise that many of the staff will be quite shocked and won't be putting a lot of effort into objectively critiquing their arguments before making them.

Phill Ewinn · 08-09-2011 02:24PM

Worked in similar sized companies before (and larger). Do people honestly believe a huge company like this are going to give you more than you're entitlements? 600 jobs is big news for sure but the real anger and outrage people are showing talk talk is OTT.

vicwatson · 08-09-2011 02:26PM

It's sh1t for them and the rest of Waterford, the knock on effect will be massive.

Sure the Government will come out today or tomorrow and announce 50 jobs somwhere up the arse of the country to balance the media loss of 570 jobs :mad::mad:

Some people found out by logging into Facebook. I mean, come on

And remember they are Carphone Warehouse

newballsplease · 08-09-2011 02:27PM

NothingMan wrote: »

Ah now, whatever about the closure etc... It's the start of September, it's not coming up to feckin xmas. Can I at least get my halloween over and done with before we start this.

well ya? it will be late October when they are let go...so ya...coming upto Christmas is a fair point to make.:rolleyes:

sunflower27 · 08-09-2011 02:30PM

vicwatson wrote: »

Some people found out by logging into Facebook. I mean, come on

That is so bad, I am speechless.

Only hearing about this now. Bad news alright.

And OP - you should be ashamed of yourself. Let's hope you are never in a situation like this, hey.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 08-09-2011 02:31PM

Putting the humans behinds the jobs feelings behind,the contrast of running costs-
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/talk-talk-600-jobs-go-to-asia-where-wages-are-90-pc-lower-2870610.html

Their work will be switched to the Philippines and India, where customer service agents earn less than €2,400 a year.
Staff in the Waterford centre, which employs 575 people, have been earning up to €30,000 a year doing the same job.
This works out at an average difference of around €80 a day for each worker.

TheZohanS · 08-09-2011 02:32PM

They'll probably outsource the lot to Mumbai the same as 11850 directory enquiries did a few years ago.

Rhys Essien · 08-09-2011 02:36PM

Given that Talk Talk are a British company you can be sure that they were given a big incentive to 'move home'.On the other hand how would we feel if the ESB or Bord Gais had 600 people employed in a call centre in England given we are all fcuked for jobs.

PseudoFamous · 08-09-2011 02:37PM

mikemac wrote: »

Lets hope for you similar doesn't happen in Wickla

It has, and it happened on about four times this scale, and about two years before this recession talk, thanks.

Cuddlesworth · 08-09-2011 02:47PM

Emily Low Neuron wrote: »

Putting the humans behinds the jobs feelings behind,the contrast of running costs-
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/talk-talk-600-jobs-go-to-asia-where-wages-are-90-pc-lower-2870610.html

"Staff had recently been sent to train workers in foreign call centres -- before being told their own jobs were being cut."

They had far more then a months notice then. Even if it wasn't explicitly said.

Logical Fallacy · 08-09-2011 02:47PM

newballsplease wrote: »

You havent a clue what your talking about. 4 weeks? For the years people put in. As if a huge company like that, didnt have this planned months in advance.
Coming up to the christmas time.
This is the same company that closed the plant down in Sligo aswell.

Its a joke.

The media knew about this before some employees.

Classic sh1t from a sh1t company.

The employees will have a condition on the amount of notice they are due in the event of forced unemployment. If it says 8 weeks, and they only got 4, they will be paid for 8 weeks.

Plazaman · 08-09-2011 02:49PM

When they announced the closure of the Sligo operations in Nov 2009, 6 months notice was given and 160 jobs lost. Everyone thought that was short notice but to give 575 people a month is a spit in the face to their employees.

Of course you have Kenny and Gilmore feigning shock at the short notice saying the company didn't give the Government time to look at options. There's only so many ways you can scratch your hole Enda and do nothing. The fact that the company gave details to the Government yesterday morning about the announcement and some wannabe journalist/showoff in the Dept leaked it to the media so Staff heard about losing their jobs on the news before Management could tell them is another prime example of the "great job" the Government are doing on the jobs front.

Anyway OP, theres too much anger and outrage???? There's not nearly enough of it IMO.

ShooterSF · 08-09-2011 02:57PM

I don't know... If I was given a few months notice that I was been made redundant I don't know if I would still be as enthusiastic or as motivated to do my job. Maybe that was the employers concern. I don't think any level of notice would help in the current environment either.

Undercover_ · 08-09-2011 02:59PM

I feel so bad for all of the people working there. Ive never been in the situation thank god, but I know from growing up in Donegal the impact that such a big loss in a small community has on everyone.

I work in a call centre however and it wouldnt have been feasible to give more than a month's notice, the disgruntled (understandably) emplyees will be on the phones to the customers for the next month, and who could blame them for not doing their best during this time and potentially causing major problems to the company's reputation

Im suprised in fact that they didnt have the other operation all ready to go and paid them their month's notice rather than taking the risk of letting them loose on the customers during this difficult time.

The practicalities dont take away from the awful shock though- my thoughts go out to them all.

HellFireClub · 08-09-2011 03:02PM

At the end of the day, whether notice is 1 month or 6, the outcome is the same.

The problem is that the country is still expecting to get out of a recession without creating a single job. That isn't going to happen, so these kind of closures are going to continue.

Mountjoy Mugger · 08-09-2011 03:04PM

All the anger and rage doesn't matter an iota. Talk talk don't give a flying you know what.

mathie · 08-09-2011 03:22PM

HellFireClub wrote: »

At the end of the day, whether notice is 1 month or 6, the outcome is the same.

The problem is that the country is still expecting to get out of a recession without creating a single job. That isn't going to happen, so these kind of closures are going to continue.

The problem is also that our minimum wage is too high.
We're not competitive enough.

Outrage Joe! Talk talk staff given a months notice

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