How good would the LOI be with a €145,000,000 investment?

stovelid · 05-09-2011 12:46PM

plasmaguy wrote: »

A lot of LOI football isn't pretty to watch.

Do you watch Match of the Day regularly?

Crazy Horse 6 · 05-09-2011 12:49PM

mars bar wrote: »

A person who spends €800 on a trip to a PL match needs their head fúcking checked.
It can easily be done on €200.

Go over several times a year and i'd consider 200 quid to be expensive. Can be done for less if you plan right.

bohsman · 05-09-2011 12:50PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

if i need/want, food and beer, which has nothing to do with the football at all.

Makes up a decent part of clubs turnovers.

Crazy Horse 6 · 05-09-2011 12:51PM

popzmaster wrote: »

€149 - Go to one match (and this is considered cheap)
€100 - Go to 18 matches

Easy choice for people who like going to football matches

Yeah but a lot of the football played at LOI level is complete muck

bohsman · 05-09-2011 12:52PM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Yeah but a lot of the football played at LOI level is complete muck

A lot of the football played in the EPL is equally muck. Chicken and egg as far as the LOI goes, the more that go to games the higher the standard will become. Would also improve the national team in the long term.

overshoot · 05-09-2011 01:22PM

can we just leave out this LOI v EPL debate, barstoolers etc and try to give an answer for every LOI club if they got 6.9millions, beacuse lets face it, its all hypothetical anyway.
Harps could finally get their 6600 all seater stadium and practice pitches built with a bit left over instead of waiting for the 2million layers of red tape to be cut, it would give us the extra source if income as it can host other events unlike finn park, a long term strategy could be put in place rather than firefighting and if the club can move back towards the top of div1 for a start when the crowd would go from the current 500 a week to 1500 or more. a properly competive harps will pull 3000 or so. (and before someone slags those figures harps have been through this cycle a few times in the last decade alone)

stovelid · 05-09-2011 01:28PM

bohsman wrote: »

A lot of the football played in the EPL is equally muck. Chicken and egg as far as the LOI goes, the more that go to games the higher the standard will become. Would also improve the national team in the long term.

For anybody that supported English football in the 70s and 80s, it would have been hilarious to have had a glimpse of the football world post-1994 where solemn edicts were constantly issued on the superiority of the aesthetic product on offer. You would have choked on your pint.

Plus the edicts are still misplaced in a sense.

Iago · 05-09-2011 01:30PM

NotorietyH wrote: »

Because they're not. That's the average figure for the whole year.

Originally I thought that as well, but they're saying that €145 million is spent on 164,000 trips.

That's €885 per trip.

Ferris_Bueller · 05-09-2011 01:54PM

To answer the actual question, I'd imagine the LoI could do a hell of a lot with €149m. Advertising would be up considerably, they could put on a better highlights package every week (no disprespect to MNS), Improve facilities around the grounds, invest in youth structures across the country. No doubt the LoI would be a hell of a lot stronger with this money pumped into it, but it isn't a real possibility in fairness. Personally I think the league is slowly improving as it is, the quality of football now seems better now than it did 6/7 years ago, less hoofball on show, even recently on this I have noticed one or two people say they have started going to games or paying attention to the league. If we had of been able to keep hold of the players who left the league to go onto mediocre teams in England I have no doubt clubs such as Sligo and Pats would have done even better in Europe this year.

Sickening what Gav said really though, 1,000,000 watched the Champions League last year which show's that the interest is there.

stovelid · 05-09-2011 02:02PM

The single most pressing requirement in the league is facilities.

It will probably never happen now but something local authority investment in grounds (with the ground then hosting other sports and stuff like concerts to pay their way and the clubs paying a service fee or something) would transform the league in many ways. Also better media coverage.

So much of what is played in the top level of the league would look so much better in good stadia with decent coverage.

Ferris_Bueller · 05-09-2011 02:17PM

stovelid wrote: »

So much of what is played in the top level of the league would look so much better in good stadia with decent coverage.

Agree 100%. I reckon if the LoI had stadiums on par with say League 1 over in England, and got coverage even as good as the Championship or SPL, the standard would all of a sudden "be better". Sometimes I wonder when people say the league is rubbish, do they actually mean the football or are they fooled by the facilities and poor coverage.

stovelid · 05-09-2011 02:29PM

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder when people say the league is rubbish, do they actually mean the football or are they fooled by the facilities and poor coverage.

Think it's just shorthand for not La Liga or EPL.

Anybody with a half a brain in their head would be able to judge individual games on merit: that is, to tell the difference between top-level players playing poor football and lower-level players playing attractive football.

NotorietyH · 05-09-2011 03:03PM

Iago wrote: »

Originally I thought that as well, but they're saying that €145 million is spent on 164,000 trips.

That's €885 per trip.

That's kind of nuts then. Unless a lot of those trips are people who make a weekend of it and stay a few nights.

Gavin "shels" · 05-09-2011 04:11PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Could you imagine the traffic in Drom? :eek:

Would there be enough bouncy castles in the surrounding houses for all!?:D

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

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Sickening what Gav said really though, 1,000,000 watched the Champions League last year which show's that the interest is there.

Tis, but it proves once again that Irish sporting public are just event junkies!

Chucky the tree · 05-09-2011 04:18PM

Our maybe the interest is only there to watch much better quality of football?

bohsman · 05-09-2011 04:24PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Our maybe the interest is only there to watch much better quality of football?

Thought you were a Liverpool fan? Do you stop watching when they play poor quality football?

stovelid · 05-09-2011 05:23PM

bohsman wrote: »

Thought you were a Liverpool fan? Do you stop watching when they play poor quality football?

Ah come on.

They played alright ball in the mid 90s IIRC.

wandatowell · 07-09-2011 01:19AM

popzmaster wrote: »

€149 - Go to one match (and this is considered cheap)
€100 - Go to 18 matches

Easy choice for people who like going to football matches

Or I can go to my local team and watch all their games for nothing,

But guess what......... I dont, why????? Because tbh I dont wanna watch my local postman play football.

He's a good postman but a sh1t footballer

AgileMyth · 07-09-2011 01:35AM

If all the people who think they're football fans actually went to games of football we'd have a very strong league here. There are at least 20,000 'football fans' in my clubs catchment area but we struggle to get two thousand to the big league games.

But sure we'll all just support the team that won the English league when we were 10, isn't it Irish tradition?

applehunter · 07-09-2011 01:36AM

wandatowell wrote: »

Or I can go to my local team and watch all their games for nothing,

But guess what......... I dont, why????? Because tbh I dont wanna watch my local postman play football.

He's a good postman but a sh1t footballer

Won't have that.

Phil "Biscuits" Harrington was one of the best goalkeepers City ever had.

Never followed him on his postal round so can't comment on that.

Gavin "shels" · 07-09-2011 01:38AM

wandatowell wrote: »

He's a good postman but a sh1t footballer

Dean Delaney is a good postman and he's a damn good keeper.

stovelid · 07-09-2011 10:24AM

wandatowell wrote: »

Or I can go to my local team and watch all their games for nothing,

But guess what......... I dont, why????? Because tbh I dont wanna watch my local postman play football.

He's a good postman but a sh1t footballer

Have some respect for the lads on here that spend a fortune getting over to England to games and wish that they had got hooked on the LOI early as they are a real loss to the league here.

I doubt anybody in the LOI particularly cares what the Galactico Super Sunday Fanboys (with their superior product analysis) think, though.

It's like the modern version of football Top Trumps cards for grown-ups.

Beefy78 · 07-09-2011 02:43PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Why not? We are not in a position to stand idly by and see millions flow into the British economy and out of ours.

It's a two-way street though. You do know which country is the biggest single contributor to tourism in Ireland, I presume?

The figures simply have to be wrong, as has been said by others. Unless a lot of these are people taking in a game or two during a holiday in the UK, in which case the point is moot.

Chucky the tree · 07-09-2011 03:04PM

bohsman wrote: »

Thought you were a Liverpool fan? Do you stop watching when they play poor quality football?

No, but I support them. If I wanted to watch a a football match not involving Liverpool I wouldn't waste my time watching it played badly in the LOI and that's the point. A neutral football fan will watch the champions league because of the quality of it. Most people wouldn't want to subject themselves to the LOI.

premierstone · 07-09-2011 03:54PM

stovelid wrote: »

I doubt anybody in the LOI particularly cares what the Galactico Super Sunday Fanboys (with their superior product analysis) think, though.

But they quite clearly do care and thats why they never shut the fcuk up about it and we end up with a multitude of these threads that all end in the same way.

bohsman · 07-09-2011 04:34PM

A better question would be "how good would the national team be if there was 145m invested into the LOI"

I really don't care who people support but I would be happier if people didn't judge the league without having watched a game or come out with some ridiculous excuse like saying they would go to every game if there was a stadium in their back garden.

stovelid · 07-09-2011 04:37PM

premierstone wrote: »

But they quite clearly do care and thats why they never shut the fcuk up about it and we end up with a multitude of these threads that all end in the same way.

Maybe if the threads were not infested with mongos that know nothing about football (at whatever level), we could discuss things properly. As it stands, that's probably impossible.

Helix · 07-09-2011 04:41PM

who the hell spends 880 for a game??

when i had a season ticket for villa id go to 15 games a season and not even spend that

stovelid · 07-09-2011 04:45PM

Helix wrote: »

who the hell spends 880 for a game??

when i had a season ticket for villa id go to 15 games a season and not even spend that

I assume the figures might be skewed by corporate trips and the like?

Most people on here are clued up about cheap trips but maybe a lot of people go the package route which is expensive thought that said, hardly that expensive.

Raskolnikov · 07-09-2011 05:04PM

yosemite_sam wrote: »

Sad, I was on a ferry back in May. It was full of Irish Manu fans, like people possessed. You would have sworn that Manchester Utd were an Irish club, the way they were going on. We are going doing this and we are going to win that, the Club must be in fits of laughter seeing these mugs over week in week out

A bit like Olly Byrne must have been like during the glory days of Shelbourne FC when he was busy running the club into the ground?

How good would the LOI be with a €145,000,000 investment?

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