Are people on the dole too entitled?

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 02:39PM #1

I was talking to a girl at my college a while ago and she was showing me houses and apartments on daft. She was saying she would like a nice new house or big apartment.

I asked her if she had a job as well and if she had saved up a lot to buy it. She replied that no, she does not work, but the government would pay for it. They already pay for her current apartment, monthly dole, college, and everything else. She then said she was probably going to drop out of college because she wanted to start having babies.

I was absolutely sickened by her attitude. Its not enough that taxpayers foot the bill for her to be handed a free ride, shes not happy with it and wants an upgrade. And to add insult on top, she let us pay for 2 years of her college, only to drop out so she can start popping out babies and get even more money off the government. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not lay into her.

Why on earth should tax payers have to foot the bill for people like this? They just feel they are entitled to a free ride and have no plans to ever work or give back to society in any way. I honestly feel social benefits need a major reform in this country.

chin_grin · 07-09-2011 02:41PM

Oh look.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 07-09-2011 02:41PM

ANOTHER DOLE THREAD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9WjcGdxuM

telekon · 07-09-2011 02:42PM

Is she hot?

The King of Moo · 07-09-2011 02:42PM

Your title should be "Is this girl I know too entitled?"

I couldn't possibly make a statement on all people on the dole just based on her.

Still, it's nice to see people on AH finally tackling the issue of people on the dole.

It's an important issue and has been the elephant in the room around here for far too long.

:pac:

Lollipops23 · 07-09-2011 02:42PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

I honestly feel social benefits need a major reform in this country.

What about people who spent years paying in to the system? Are they not entitled to social welfare whould they find themselves out of work?

Types like the girl your mentioning should be clamped down on though. She was probably only in college to keep her welfare payments going. Now that she's going to have babies she'll have more payments to cover the loss.

Lovely.

Sunnyisland · 07-09-2011 02:42PM

:eek: A dole thread :eek: What is this very unfamiliar thread doing here :P

cosmicfart · 07-09-2011 02:44PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

I was talking to a girl at my college a while ago and she was showing me houses and apartments on daft. She was saying she would like a nice new house or big apartment.

I asked her if she had a job as well and if she had saved up a lot to buy it. She replied that no, she does not work, but the government would pay for it. They already pay for her current apartment, monthly dole, college, and everything else. She then said she was probably going to drop out of college because she wanted to start having babies.

I was absolutely sickened by her attitude. Its not enough that taxpayers foot the bill for her to be handed a free ride, shes not happy with it and wants an upgrade. And to add insult on top, she let us pay for 2 years of her college, only to drop out so she can start popping out babies and get even more money off the government. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not lay into her.

Why on earth should tax payers have to foot the bill for people like this? They just feel they are entitled to a free ride and have no plans to ever work or give back to society in any way. I honestly feel social benefits need a major reform in this country.

I didnt know the persons can get a free ride on the dole, is this a weekly free ride or monthly?? fook im quitting my job if its weeekly

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 02:44PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

I was talking to a girl at my college a while ago and she was showing me houses and apartments on daft. She was saying she would like a nice new house or big apartment.

I asked her if she had a job as well and if she had saved up a lot to buy it. She replied that no, she does not work, but the government would pay for it. They already pay for her current apartment, monthly dole, college, and everything else. She then said she was probably going to drop out of college because she wanted to start having babies.

I was absolutely sickened by her attitude. Its not enough that taxpayers foot the bill for her to be handed a free ride, shes not happy with it and wants an upgrade. And to add insult on top, she let us pay for 2 years of her college, only to drop out so she can start popping out babies and get even more money off the government. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not lay into her.

Why on earth should tax payers have to foot the bill for people like this? They just feel they are entitled to a free ride and have no plans to ever work or give back to society in any way. I honestly feel social benefits need a major reform in this country.

Yes, but you did keep your mouth shut...so to be honest you lost serious points.

Outraged enough to post a thread on boards bashing people on the dole but not outraged enough to actually take to task the one person you see to be abusing it.

Me thinks your story is bull****, if not you are a total puss puss.

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 02:46PM

Lollipops23 wrote: »

What about people who spent years paying in to the system? Are they not entitled to social welfare whould they find themselves out of work?

Types like the girl your mentioning should be clamped down on though. She was probably only in college to keep her welfare payments going. Now that she's going to have babies she'll have more payments to cover the loss.

Lovely.

There are absolutely people who deserve the benefits. And there are loads of people who abuse the system and milk it for all its worth.

And sorry for posting another dole thread. As someone who pays taxes, I was feeling pretty outraged by that situation, and I know quite a few more who are scamming the system.

MungBean · 07-09-2011 02:47PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

I was talking to a girl at my college a while ago and she was showing me houses and apartments on daft. She was saying she would like a nice new house or big apartment.

I asked her if she had a job as well and if she had saved up a lot to buy it. She replied that no, she does not work, but the government would pay for it. They already pay for her current apartment, monthly dole, college, and everything else. She then said she was probably going to drop out of college because she wanted to start having babies.

I was absolutely sickened by her attitude. Its not enough that taxpayers foot the bill for her to be handed a free ride, shes not happy with it and wants an upgrade. And to add insult on top, she let us pay for 2 years of her college, only to drop out so she can start popping out babies and get even more money off the government. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not lay into her.

Why on earth should tax payers have to foot the bill for people like this? They just feel they are entitled to a free ride and have no plans to ever work or give back to society in any way. I honestly feel social benefits need a major reform in this country.

Love the way ya say "We paid for her college and now she drops out". As if you have a say in how someone else lives their life. Pay your taxes and mind your business.

Wetai · 07-09-2011 02:47PM

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AnonoBoy · 07-09-2011 02:48PM

The dole pays for her apartment?

What rent does she pay?

There is a cap on the amount payable by rent allowance. And since she doesn't have kids then she's not getting any child benefit.

The government won't buy a house for her. They might contribute to her rent allowance but she won't be living in a brand new house that's bought specially for her as you would like us to believe.

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 02:49PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Yes, but you did keep your mouth shut...so to be honest you lost serious points.

Outraged enough to post a thread on boards bashing people on the dole but not outraged enough to actually take to task the one person you see to be abusing it.

Me thinks your story is bull****, if not you are a total puss puss.

Why on earth would you think my story is bull?

And one of the reasons I did not bash her is I did not want it to be perceived as a racist issue.

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 02:51PM

Skunkle wrote: »

Love the way ya say "We paid for her college and now she drops out". As if you have a say in how someone else lives their life. Pay your taxes and mind your business.

lol wow, ignorance at its best. im sure you would be best mates with all the corrupt politicians.

god forbid people would want taxes to be used wisely.

MungBean · 07-09-2011 02:51PM

AnonoBoy wrote: »

The dole pays for her apartment?

What rent does she pay?

There is a cap on the amount payable by rent allowance. And since she doesn't have kids then she's not getting any child benefit.

The government won't buy a house for her. They might contribute to her rent allowance but she won't be living in a brand new house that's bought specially for her as you would like us to believe.

You aslo cant keep your dole while getting a grant for college. I'm on the dole and looking to get to college (might aswell get an education rather than doin nothin and cant find work) and its no free ride. You get the allowance or a grant and neither are sufficient to cover everything. Without monies from elsewhere its almost impossible to do it.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 07-09-2011 02:52PM

is generous in contrast of the uk system op,but cost of living is higher here,and thanks to the last gov introducing the universal social charge,it has left some people financially better off staying on the dole,the fault is within the system and cost of living itself.

tfitzgerald · 07-09-2011 02:52PM

I think this girl was telling a few fibs here. Being on the dole is not something most people find that they want and if the could get off it they would and as for all these entitlements I think they are like fàs jobs plenty on paper but don't bother going looking for them.

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 02:54PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

Why on earth would you think my story is bull?

And one of the reasons I did not bash her is I did not want it to be perceived as a racist issue.

I gave you an option though, if you wish to maintain the accuracy of your tail then i am happy with my opinion that your a definitely a bit of a wuss.

And how would it be perceived as a racist issue? You would have been giving her **** for taking advantage of social welfare, not being from where ever she is from.

Deffo a bit of a wuss i'm afraid.

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 02:55PM

tfitzgerald wrote: »

I think this girl was telling a few fibs here. Being on the dole is not something most people find that they want and if the could get off it they would and as for all these entitlements I think they are like fàs jobs plenty on paper but don't bother going looking for them.

its quite possible she was, and i am not familiar with all the rules of what the gov will and wont provide. and its possible neither is she and it was just wishful thinking on her part.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 07-09-2011 02:55PM

tfitzgerald wrote: »

for all these entitlements I think they are like fàs jobs plenty on paper but don't bother going looking for them.

Some parts of society do,the med card for example is quiet generous for education/health needs.

MungBean · 07-09-2011 02:55PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

lol wow, ignorance at its best. im sure you would be best mates with all the corrupt politicians.

god forbid people would want taxes to be used wisely.

Thats rich you talking of ignorance after your OP. I've paid my taxed since I was 16. Why do you think I shouldnt go to college ? or get rent allowance ?

Your problem is you dont like that girls attitude. And because of that you dont want her or anyone else to have what they are entitled to. There are hundreds of thousand of people on the dole and you make up a bullshít story about a student dropping out of college as an example of where its all going wrong. Thats what I'd call ignorance.

scholar007 · 07-09-2011 02:58PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

She then said she was probably going to drop out of college because she wanted to start having babies.

It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not lay into her.

They just feel they are entitled to a free ride

:D:D:D:D:D

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 02:58PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I gave you an option though, if you wish to maintain the accuracy of your tail then i am happy with my opinion that your a definitely a bit of a wuss.

And how would it be perceived as a racist issue? You would have been giving her **** for taking advantage of social welfare, not being from where ever she is from.

Deffo a bit of a wuss i'm afraid.

often times people will twist the context of what you are saying and try to make it into something racist.

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 03:00PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

often times people will twist the context of what you are saying and try to make it into something racist.

I don't disagree, but the fact that just the possibility of such an occurrence stifled your tongue and caused you the clam up and not express yourself makes you a wuss in my opinion.

Stand up for what you believe in OP, better to die like a lion than live like a sheep.

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 03:02PM

Skunkle wrote: »

Thats rich you talking of ignorance after your OP. I've paid my taxed since I was 16. Why do you think I shouldnt go to college ? or get rent allowance ?

Your problem is you dont like that girls attitude. And because of that you dont want her or anyone else to have what they are entitled to. There are hundreds of thousand of people on the dole and you make up a bullshít story about a student getting too much assistance as an example of where its all going wrong. Thats what I'd call ignorance.

1. its not a bull**** story

2. i do not begrudge people benefits they deserve, as i stated in another reply.

3. if you honestly think there are not thousands upon thousands abusing the system, you might be smoking crack.

MungBean · 07-09-2011 03:04PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

1. its not a bull**** story

2. i do not begrudge people benefits they deserve, as i stated in another reply.

3. if you honestly think there are not thousands upon thousands abusing the system, you might be smoking crack.

Theres nothing in your OP about that girl abusing the system so why is that the crux of your argument if its welfare fraud your worried about?

MungBean · 07-09-2011 03:06PM

Or is your entire problem due to the fact that you were thick enough to believe the state was going to purchase that girl whatever house she wanted ?

Snakeblood · 07-09-2011 03:07PM

One simple word.

BRINGBACKBORSTAL.

MungBean · 07-09-2011 03:12PM

emul8ter25 wrote: »

I was talking to a girl at my college a while ago and she was showing me houses and apartments on daft. She was saying she would like a nice new house or big apartment.

Everyone would like a nice new house or big apartment. Nothing new or sickening here.

I asked her if she had a job as well and if she had saved up a lot to buy it. She replied that no, she does not work, but the government would pay for it. They already pay for her current apartment, monthly dole, college, and everything else. She then said she was probably going to drop out of college because she wanted to start having babies.

Government wont pay for nice new houses or big apartments. Impossible that they pay her rent allowance, dole, college and more. And she's a criminal for dropping out of college or having a child ?

I was absolutely sickened by her attitude. Its not enough that taxpayers foot the bill for her to be handed a free ride, shes not happy with it and wants an upgrade. And to add insult on top, she let us pay for 2 years of her college, only to drop out so she can start popping out babies and get even more money off the government. It was all I could do to keep my mouth shut and not lay into her.

I'm sickened by your attitude that you class college grants and rent allowance as free rides that shouldnt be given out and if they are the recipients should be forced through college and neutered so they dont have kids.

Why on earth should tax payers have to foot the bill for people like this? They just feel they are entitled to a free ride and have no plans to ever work or give back to society in any way. I honestly feel social benefits need a major reform in this country.

Why ? Because thats what taxes are used for. Social benefits might need reform but not because you dont like how someone is living their life.

emul8ter25 · 07-09-2011 03:14PM

Skunkle wrote: »

Or is your entire problem due to the fact that you were thick enough to believe the state was going to purchase that girl whatever house she wanted ?

you sound very offended. could it be you or your family is abusing the system as well?

and it never ceases to amaze me what the state will provide if stories are to be believe.

Are people on the dole too entitled?

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