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100% of the diplomatic cables have been released!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    what is this I don't even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    So Harney DID eat all the pies!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Why, oh why do they have to tack "-gate" onto the name of everything even mildly controversial?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Broads.ie wrote: »
    Wahey!

    Or has everybody forgotten about it?

    http://www.cablegatesearch.net/overview.php

    Frankly, yes. The "drip" was stupid, and 99.99% of it was utterly uninteresting.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    Thank crunchie it's friday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Broads.ie


    Frankly, yes. The "drip" was stupid, and 99.99% of it was utterly uninteresting.

    NTM

    You've read 99.9% of the cables? Wow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭Wossack


    dontcaregate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,665 ✭✭✭baldbear


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Why, oh why do they have to tack "-gate" onto the name of everything even mildly controversial?

    Tony Cascarino in holocaustgate shocker!:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Why, oh why do they have to tack "-gate" onto the name of everything even mildly controversial?

    There's a conspiracy theory behind that - it's known as "Mildly Controversialgate".

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    The official site has no updates for a few days?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Apparently, and for reasons unknown, Assange has released them unredacted. The prick.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-publishes-cache-unredacted-cables


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Former media partners condemn WikiLeaks' decision to make public documents identifying activists and whistleblowers

    Did he not learn from last time?
    How many informants in Afghanistan are now going to be taken by the Taliban and tortured to death

    Assange cares more about his fame and ego then lives lost and protecting sources


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mikemac wrote: »
    Did he not learn from last time?
    How many informants in Afghanistan are now going to be taken by the Taliban and tortured to death

    Assange cares more about his fame and ego then lives lost and protecting sources

    Well whatever doubts their might have been, the jury has certainly come back now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Alan b.


    they should just assassinate him and be done with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Nodin wrote: »
    Apparently, and for reasons unknown, Assange has released them unredacted. The prick.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-publishes-cache-unredacted-cables

    Yeah, that's bang out of order. They did well up until now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Yeah, that's bang out of order. They did well up until now.

    There didn't seem to be much new in the Irish section. Shannon, something about blocking a hezbollah tv channell (al-manar)....I just looked at the ones marked "secret" that were of interest. Might be something funny in "confidential" but I haven't the patience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    My ol' mate Julian trying to keep himself important at the expense of anyone/everyone else. Never saw that coming at all, at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 235 ✭✭Irish Slaves for Europe


    i cant find anything interesting in the irish section either, i guess any sensitive info would never be sent in cables


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Nodin wrote: »
    Apparently, and for reasons unknown, Assange has released them unredacted. The prick.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-publishes-cache-unredacted-cables
    There was a BBC program about him and Wikileaks a while ago and they interviewed former friends who went into detail about how much of a sociopath Assange was. And one of the editors of the Guardian spoke of the meeting where they wanted to go through the cables to redact any info that could bring harm onto people. Assange was reported to say "F*ck them. They're informers. They deserve to die." Sadly, the irony was lost on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    I'll stand over my comments of eight odd months ago.. Assange's personality traits were well known back then but many people chose to ignore the man in favour of wikileaks...

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=69428352&postcount=269

    Seems some of the thankers of that post have come round to see the man the same way I always saw him, interested only in himself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    He's a sick, twisted individual.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,902 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Broads.ie wrote: »

    You've read 99.9% of the cables? Wow.

    Didn't need to. The .1% which was interesting has been posted up on various boards or blog sites. I know how much was considered interesting enough to provoke discussion, so by extension, the rest was not.

    NTM


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    This one might cause some trouble: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/american-soldiers-executed-iraqi-children-wikileaks-2864993.html

    American soldiers executed Iraqi children - WikiLeaks
    More than five years after the US military denied claims that its troops had executed at least 10 Iraqi civilians in cold blood, new evidence has emerged in a WikiLeaks diplomatic cable casting serious doubt on the US version of events.

    A UN complaint contained in the latest batch of cables published by the whistle-blowing organisation suggests that in 2006 US troops killed at least 10 civilians, including five children and an elderly woman, in the central town of Ishaqi before ordering an air strike which destroyed the house where the alleged killings took place.

    The incident is raised in a letter from Philip Alston, the UN rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions. Mr Alston's letter to US officials, which went unanswered, challenges the American military version of events. It says that autopsies carried out in the nearby city of Tikrit showed the victims had been handcuffed and shot in the head. They included a woman in her 70s and a five-month-old.

    The US military had said that the troops seized an al-Qa'ida suspect from a first floor room after fierce fighting left the house in ruins. US officials originally said five people had been killed, although they later accepted a higher toll of 11.

    The leaked cable has been highlighted by the US-based McClatchy newspaper chain. Its reporters in Iraq at the time interviewed neighbours and Iraqi security officials, who gave similar accounts to those contained in Mr Alston's letter but which the US military insisted were unlikely to be true.

    Mr Alston sent a series of questions about the incident to the US embassy in Geneva, which passed them on to Washington. Although the US military announced an investigation into the incident, no known action was taken.

    Asked whether he had elicited any more information about what happened, Mr Alston told The Independent: "[The US] studiously avoided responding to any communications sent to it during this period. The tragedy is that this elaborate system of communications is in place but the [UN] Human Rights Council does nothing to follow-up when states ignore issues raised with them."

    The incident, in March 2006, occurred when large tracts of countryside were judged to be in the control of Sunni insurgents, many affiliated to al-Qa'ida in Iraq. Neighbours told the McClatchy reporters that troops had approached the house of a farmer, Faiz Harrat al-Majma'ee, at about 2.30am. There had been a 25-minute firefight, with someone apparently firing from the house, before the troops entered the building. The troops were backed up by helicopter gunships, they said.

    Mr Alston's concerns reflect those in the original report by Iraqi security officials at the local Joint Coordination Centre. Its report said: "The American forces gathered the family members in one room and executed 11 persons, including five children, four women and two men. Then they bombed the house, burned three vehicles and killed their animals."

    In his letter, Mr Alston – who names 10 victims –says "Iraqi TV stations broadcast from the scene and showed bodies of the victims (i.e. five children and four women) in the morgue of Tikrit". He adds that autopsies revealed that all corpses were shot in the head and handcuffed. There is no mention in the cable of any of the alleged shooting suspects being found or arrested at or near the house.

    McClatchy said the Pentagon did not respond to requests for comment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Why, oh why do they have to tack "-gate" onto the name of everything even mildly controversial?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Biggins wrote: »
    This one might cause some trouble: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/american-soldiers-executed-iraqi-children-wikileaks-2864993.html

    American soldiers executed Iraqi children - WikiLeaks


    What an absolute disgrace,wonder will this make the Fox news website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Biggins wrote: »
    This one might cause some trouble: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/american-soldiers-executed-iraqi-children-wikileaks-2864993.html

    American soldiers executed Iraqi children - WikiLeaks

    Fcuking hell.
    Worse than Hitler Ted.


  • Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nodin wrote: »
    Apparently, and for reasons unknown, Assange has released them unredacted. The prick.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/sep/02/wikileaks-publishes-cache-unredacted-cables

    What a C U Next Tuesday! Wonder how many people could potentially lose their lives or have their lives destroyed because of that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Sea Sharp wrote: »
    Fcuking hell.
    Worse than Hitler Ted.

    You're hilarious.....seriously, how did you honestly think that was a funny comment given the fact that you knew infants has been executed by soldiers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Biggins wrote: »
    This one might cause some trouble: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/middle-east/american-soldiers-executed-iraqi-children-wikileaks-2864993.html

    American soldiers executed Iraqi children - WikiLeaks

    Wikileaks just got interesting again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Yeah, that's bang out of order. They did well up until now.

    Why should only one side be held up to scrutiny and have everything about them put out?


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