Spoilers Series 6, Episode 8 - "Lets Kill Hitler"

Basq · 27-08-2011 10:01PM

My one major niggle was the lack of a German / Austrian accent on Adolf Hitler and his perfect grasp of English..

.. he sounded distinctly British too!

Aldebaran · 27-08-2011 10:02PM

So is Hitler still in the cupboard then?

Yahew · 27-08-2011 10:04PM

Basq wrote: »

My one major niggle was the lack of a German / Austrian accent on Adolf Hitler and his perfect grasp of English..

.. he sounded distinctly British too!

Really? Think about it. This is Dr. Who. There was a Tardis nearby.

Basq · 27-08-2011 10:04PM

Aldebaran wrote: »

So is Hitler still in the cupboard then?

Are you incinuating Hitler was in fact a homosexual?

Aldebaran · 27-08-2011 10:06PM

Basq wrote: »

My one major niggle was the lack of a German / Austrian accent on Adolf Hitler and his perfect grasp of English..

.. he sounded distinctly British too!

The Tardis translates and has trouble with accents, do keep up Basq!

Basq · 27-08-2011 10:08PM

Aldebaran wrote: »

The Tardis translates and has trouble with accents, do keep up Basq!

Oh balls... of course.. forgot about that!

What about before the TARDIS burst through the window into the room? Did we not hear him talk before that?

deconduo · 27-08-2011 10:15PM

Loved it

Das Kitty · 27-08-2011 10:38PM

Why couldn't the Doctor regenerate himself?

Craguls · 27-08-2011 10:50PM

Anyone else reckon the whole

River giving up her regenerations/giving her regenerations to the doctor

will be used to circumvent the amount of times the Doctor can regenerate rule soon enough?

Yahew · 27-08-2011 11:08PM

Can we do without spoiler tags in a thread with **Spoilers** in the title. I think Craguls' idea is good, but I dont want to quote a spoiler tag with a spoiler tag :-)

Aoi · 27-08-2011 11:23PM

Craguls wrote: »

Anyone else reckon the whole
River giving up her regenerations/giving her regenerations to the doctor
will be used to circumvent the amount of times the Doctor can regenerate rule soon enough?

Didn't we see him die as the current Doctor? Can they circumnavigate that? Somehow, I think they might manage that.. Bitta creative writing and all, or this could be the end :eek:

rockmongrel · 27-08-2011 11:49PM

Das Kitty wrote: »

Why couldn't the Doctor regenerate himself?

This.

Did I miss a line of dialogue or something, why didn't he regenerate?

ixoy · 27-08-2011 11:51PM

Good time-wrecking fun! When we met Mels first I took an instant dislike to her and I'm not sure if it's because it was too close to Mel (argh! Melanie Bush being the worst companion in the show). But then it turned out quite nicely...

So how does this all work out? When does Melody escape the Silence? How does she end back up on earth? How does she know to find Amy and Rory? Will they then never get her back as a baby despite the photos earlier in the season? If they do, why do they give her up again? Eek!

Loved the nice touches with River Song's diary at the end and this being their first meeting. They definitely seem to be preparing her story for closure. Oh and her line to the Nazis about attending "a gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled" was great

Oh and I believe that River's sacrifice could feed more regenerations into the Doctor, although there's plenty of time to sort that one out yet. Not sure why this poison prevents regenerating but it's a good enough reason to stop having random villains pop up every week as a different incarnation of River Song, which would get very tired very fast.

ixoy · 27-08-2011 11:52PM

Oh and I actually ate a Jammy Dodger while watching this

McLoughlin · 28-08-2011 12:24AM

If you were going to kill the Doc you would want something that would inable his ability to regenerate so I presume what ever toxin was in the lipstick was able to do this.

Daemos · 28-08-2011 01:35AM

Yeah the hologram-Amelia said the poison was stopping him from regenerating

Typical Moffat episode - make you think it's about one thing when it's actually another thing entirely. Must rewatch

BlitzKrieg · 28-08-2011 04:08AM

I enjoyed the guilt lines from the doctor when it was changing from different images for the hologram.

At first when it showed Rose I was terrified it was going to be a awful *wose is spwecial* bollocks we got from RTD all the time. But he jumped over it quickly enough. Would have liked some pre-neo who images. But it got a laugh from me.

mach1982 · 28-08-2011 11:12AM

Ones question that I kept thinking about was , who was taking care of Mels when she was a kid,. .She said she regenerated in to toddler in New York. Also how old is River?

Sudden Valley · 28-08-2011 12:10PM

Was quite a funny episode but i think they've made the river song origin story way too complicated. I was confused by why they had Amy smiling at the end of the episode? Are they no longer going to be looking for baby melody? have they accepted that at least they get to grow up with her as Mels and this is not supposed to be a downer ending?

Aoi · 28-08-2011 01:22PM

I'm curious as to what the big finish will be & if they are going to keep the story up throughout the series or just throw it in again at the end.

Doctor DooM · 28-08-2011 02:08PM

mach1982 wrote: »

Ones question that I kept thinking about was , who was taking care of Mels when she was a kid,. .She said she regenerated in to toddler in New York. Also how old is River?

She escaped from the kids home the silence had her in in the first episode of the series- in New York.

pixelburp · 28-08-2011 02:23PM

Gah, there was a huge continuity error in that episode that never got resolved - that new coat of the Doctor! He discarded it by the end (plus it seems by the trailer for next week's episode, he's back to the regular coat) but nobody even batted an eyelid! Spent the whole episode staring at the coat; though mostly wondering where I could get one.

So, to the episode itself. Someone here already wondered if these more-complex plots are going to make the kids turn off, and I'm inclined to wonder the same thing myself. Even I was head-scratching a little over the chronology & timeline of River. I've been fairly ambivalent about the River Song arc, so I hope at least this is it tied-up to something resembling completion.

In any case, an exciting and enjoyable return of Who, it's like the gang were never away; it's funny, but I find myself just automatically assuming the script / dialogue will crackle, and it still does. Although, increasingly I'm noticing that Rory's getting all the good lines these days:
"Can you even ride a motorbike?"
"I expect I can; it's been one of those days"

Doctor DooM · 28-08-2011 04:08PM

I like Rory is becoming a little more man-of-action. It makes sense considering everything the character has been through.

mach1982 · 28-08-2011 04:27PM

Doctor DooM wrote: »

She escaped from the kids home the silence had her in in the first episode of the series- in New York.

Yes . but Mels( before she regenerated in to River) was Amy and Rory's best friend they did not know she was their daughter , and it shows that they went to primary school and secondary school together. Who was looking after her , who went to parent and teacher meetings .

mach1982 · 28-08-2011 04:31PM

pixelburp wrote: »

Gah, there was a huge continuity error in that episode that never got resolved - that new coat of the Doctor! He discarded it by the end (plus it seems by the trailer for next week's episode, he's back to the regular coat) but nobody even batted an eyelid! Spent the whole episode staring at the coat; though mostly wondering where I could get one.

So, to the episode itself. Someone here already wondered if these more-complex plots are going to make the kids turn off, and I'm inclined to wonder the same thing myself. Even I was head-scratching a little over the chronology & timeline of River. I've been fairly ambivalent about the River Song arc, so I hope at least this is it tied-up to something resembling completion.

In any case, an exciting and enjoyable return of Who, it's like the gang were never away; it's funny, but I find myself just automatically assuming the script / dialogue will crackle, and it still does. Although, increasingly I'm noticing that Rory's getting all the good lines these days:
"Can you even ride a motorbike?"
"I expect I can; it's been one of those days"

Last time there was a major continuity error , it end up that it was doctor from the future " Crash of Bizatuim" , one minute he has no coat the next he has one .

Doctor DooM · 28-08-2011 04:55PM

mach1982 wrote: »

Yes . but Mels( before she regenerated in to River) was Amy and Rory's best friend they did not know she was their daughter , and it shows that they went to primary school and secondary school together. Who was looking after her , who went to parent and teacher meetings .

I dunno, like you're never going to know every single possible corner of a question, but one would assume she was adopted by English people.

Yahew · 28-08-2011 05:16PM

pixelburp wrote: »

Gah, there was a huge continuity error in that episode that never got resolved - that new coat of the Doctor! He discarded it by the end (plus it seems by the trailer for next week's episode, he's back to the regular coat) but nobody even batted an eyelid! Spent the whole episode staring at the coat; though mostly wondering where I could get one.

No continuity error. Time had passed from when the doctor was saved to when they were on the hospital with River. Previous to that the doctor was in a Tux.

pixelburp · 28-08-2011 05:22PM

Yahew wrote: »

No continuity error. Time had passed from when the doctor was saved to when they were on the hospital with River. Previous to that the doctor was in a Tux.

Uhm, I'm actually just joking, I wasn't really bothered - just thought it funny he waltzed about in a new, slighty-trendier green coat & no one batted an eyelid.

Yahew · 28-08-2011 05:39PM

Heres a real conundrum though - what about the custard and fish fingers line. What did that mean?

Mahatma coat · 28-08-2011 06:11PM

That was Great
Altho the moment a red Corvette Stingray made an appearance in the middle of a welsh cornfield I kinda knew it was River.

<nerd Alert>
BTW if we're picking up on glaring continuity errors, the episode was set in 1938, yet River enters the Resturaunt with 2 MP40's which as the name would suggest werent designed til 1940 And no they werent MP36's they were most certainly MP40's
</nerd>

Crackin episode tho, Rory is getin a lot of really really good lines

**Spoilers** Series 6, Episode 8 - "Lets Kill Hitler"

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Spoilers Series 6, Episode 8 - "Lets Kill Hitler"