Do you judge people who don't aim for high paid jobs?

IamtheWalrus · 21-08-2011 06:43PM #1

I do. The exception being people who have a trade, own their own business, making something of themselves, etc.

But I judge people who prefer not to go to college because they prefer to make money after school. People like receptionists. They must make very little in terms of salary. Why wouldn't they wait 3/4 years, get a degree and double their salary.

There's a girl in my group who never went to college. She works in admin and makes very litle money. She has admitted waiting on a man to come along and marry her. Isn't that a bit selfish? She basically wants him to provide for her.

I know some people don't go to college because they can't afored it but they are in the minority. I'm guessing most just want cash as soon as possible.

Am I harsh?

Wolfe Tone · 21-08-2011 06:45PM

I only have a little laugh to myself if said people where scumbag waster dickheads in school.

My name is URL · 21-08-2011 06:46PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

There's a girl in my group who never went to college. She works in admin and makes very litle money. She has admitted waiting on a man to come along and marry her. Isn't that a bit selfish? She basically wants him to provide for her.

What sort of group?

Am I harsh?

Yes

21-08-2011 06:47PM

who cares

UrbanSea · 21-08-2011 06:47PM

Good for you.

I know people who never even did their leaving cert and are more intelligent and hard working than people with some degrees.

Why would you look down on them? Unless you're an arrogant prick.

Chuck Stone · 21-08-2011 06:47PM

Just goes to show that college does not purge people of stupid prejudices like you have.

py2006 · 21-08-2011 06:47PM

Not everybody is academically inclined!

Gary4279 · 21-08-2011 06:48PM

Don't judge them as such. So long as they ain't sitting on their arses all day.

21-08-2011 06:48PM

What do you mean by 'college'? Because there is a world of difference between say Trinity, and for example Borris in Ossory IT.

ResearchWill · 21-08-2011 06:49PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

I do. The exception being people who have a trade, own their own business, making something of themselves, etc.

But I judge people who prefer not to go to college because they prefer to make money after school. People like receptionists. They must make very little in terms of salary. Why wouldn't they wait 3/4 years, get a degree and double their salary.

There's a girl in my group who never went to college. She works in admin and makes very litle money. She has admitted waiting on a man to come along and marry her. Isn't that a bit selfish? She basically wants him to provide for her.

I know some people don't go to college because they can't afored it but they are in the minority. I'm guessing most just want cash as soon as possible.

Am I harsh?

Yup a bit harsh, not everyone wants to go to college straight after leaving or at all. I know many people who left school say 5 to 10 years age became receptionists in solicitors now earning 30k a year, some of their friends who went to study law and do blackhall, can not get jobs as solicitors, or if the do they are earning 30k a year.

So each to their own, some just don't want to go to college, and it would be a very boring world if everyone did. Also thankfully in Ireland if you change your mind at any age you can then go to uni.

IamtheWalrus · 21-08-2011 06:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What do you mean by 'college'? Because there is a world of difference between say Trinity, and for example Borris in Ossory IT.

Get a degree or something similiar.

Mr. Manager · 21-08-2011 06:50PM

As posted in another thread recently, I never finished a year of college (tried 3 times) and I have a great job. Fantastic salary, amazing benefits and perks.

Plus it's relating to something I have a huge interest in.

College doesn't necessarily mean big salaries. My brother completed his Masters in Civil & Structural Engineering last year and now works behind the tills in Spar.

5 years of college for that? No thanks.

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Am I harsh?

Yes.

Eric Cartman · 21-08-2011 06:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What do you mean by 'college'? Because there is a world of difference between say Trinity, and for example Borris in Ossory IT.

yeah ones full of cúnts, the others in borris in ossory

Richard Hillman · 21-08-2011 06:52PM

I do yes. Its the 1st question i ask people even before their name. If they say no i wont bother with their name. I even ask people that sit beside me on the bus if they have gone to college. If they say no, they cant sit beside me.

Saila · 21-08-2011 06:53PM

no, only people who think money is everything

IamtheWalrus · 21-08-2011 06:54PM

I'm not talking about people who didn't go to college yet still get good jobs. That's just as good as not going. I'm talking about people who settle for a low paying job. If they only waited a few years they could be so much better off financially.

7sr2z3fely84g5 · 21-08-2011 06:55PM

Some people can't go to college because of family reasons at home or the financial reasons which leaves them in no-man land if they are above the threshold to get a grant or there's lack of part-time work out there to help them pay their way through college.

The introduction of fees is on the horizon which could push more people out of the system,leaving the well off not affected.

21-08-2011 06:55PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

yeah ones full of cúnts, the others in borris in ossory

Boom boom

locked_out · 21-08-2011 06:56PM

Barring some exceptions, College is merely a form of insurance for a potential employer. They really don't give a **** what you have learnt for the most part, just that you can jump through hoops and please your superiors. Who says you can't learn the subjects outside of their priestly enclaves?

21-08-2011 06:56PM

Well I think you've got things a bit confused.

Of course it's acceptable to think little of your friend, because she's basically killing time until she can use a relationship to make money. I wouldn't have much respect for someone whose plan A is to marry into money and stop working.

But to say that your problem with that situation is that she's not going to college? That's not just harsh, that's ridiculous. College education, or the lack of, is not the problem there.

Actually I think the assumption that college is the right move for everyone is a little dim/snobby.

IamtheWalrus · 21-08-2011 06:56PM

Ailani Strong Caterpillar wrote: »

Some people can't go to college because...

Again, not talking about those people. It's the ones who could have went but decided not to.

Niles · 21-08-2011 06:57PM

The need for college is way overrated. I mean, a lot of people do courses like Arts just for the sake of it (I'm an Arts grad myself so I'm not dissing people for doing Arts). One sees jobs listed that "require degrees" but when it comes down to it they could just as easily be done by someone just out of school. I think it's an artificial economy really, in the Celtic Tiger era more and more people started going to college, so more and more people on the job market had degrees, so degrees become a "requirement" even if what's learnt in them doesn't really qualify one for the job anymore than their Leaving Cert does. There is kind of an idea out there that "you need to go college", the whole education system is built around it (Leaving Cert points, etc). I think that more of an emphasis should be placed on practical work skills than academia for academia's sake.

So no, I don't look down on people who don't go to college.

21-08-2011 06:58PM

College is absolutely not for everyone. Judging someone who didn't go is pointless, just get on with your own life. And anway, a degree on its own is worth feck-all these days anyway

Logical Fallacy · 21-08-2011 06:58PM

I got a job that required a Degree and a Masters with neither qualification.

I felt sorry for the poor spanners who went through 5-6 years of college only to be beaten to the punch by a guy who did nothing more than show an ability to learn, do the job well and work hard. On the job training is the bizzle.

Pho rizzle.

dublin daz · 21-08-2011 06:58PM

College isn't for everyone.

If everyone wanted to go to college and no be 'receptionists' who would do these jobs?

Also, just because someone is a receptionist, does not mean they did not go to college.

As someone said their brother has a masters degree in civil engineering and work on a till.

I think we should judge ourselves before we judge others.

I don't think college gives anyone superiority.

Tonto86 · 21-08-2011 06:58PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Am I harsh?

Yes... and your a dick

21-08-2011 06:59PM

So you judge people not by the fact they're earning but how much they're earning?

I hate to break it to you, but the country is in the sh.itter and having a degree will not guarantee you a higer salary anymore. In fact I look down on you because you only have a degree...where's the masters, PhD, post-doc???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

c0rk3r · 21-08-2011 06:59PM

This says alot more about you know than anything else

Whats awaiting a graduate when they leave college anyway? Very low prospects for a job, government internships, further studies (paid phd or €5k masters) or emigration. I received a degree on don't hold them on any pedestal because they dont deserve one.

Da Shins Kelly · 21-08-2011 07:02PM

Not really, unless they're wasters who didn't go to college simply because they couldn't be bothered and want to sponge off the dole for the rest of their lives.

And to be honest, I feel like a lot of people judge people who go to college too, with this whole 'What are you gonna do with that degree?' and 'Why don't you get a job, sure aren't you just gonna finish college with a useless degree and have no job?' Some people like college, like some people don't. It seems a lot of people love taking down anyone who opts to get a degree with their naysaying about jobs and such. Fact is, when the time comes round again and we come out of recession (which we will), jobs for graduates are going to become more available and there'll be plenty of people who will be very grateful for their degrees. True, college isn't for some and I wouldn't knock anyone on that, but people shouldn't knock people who choose to go to college either.

IamtheWalrus · 21-08-2011 07:02PM

Starla_o0 wrote: »

I look down on you because you only have a degree...where's the masters, PhD, post-doc???:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm afraid you don't know my educational background.

Ficheall · 21-08-2011 07:03PM

I'm going into my eighth year in college... Seriously beginning to wonder at the pointlessness of it all...

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