Do The guards do their jobs anymore?

yoyo wrote: »

s20101938 wrote: »

This is what the "Gardee" (most ridiculous and internationally embarassing name of any police force on earth) do:

Stroll in to the Spar for a free roll.

The Gards get free lunches :eek::eek: . And is this paid for by the tax payer by any chance? I heard they get petrol free for the garda car, fair enough but thats ripping the piss :eek::eek:

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allibastor wrote: »

yes, i spoke to neighbours yesterday, before the party started as they were setting up and kept shouting itno the microphone, they just closed the door on me. my next door neighbour who is on the residence committee also had to call the guards as the lads jumped into thier back garden.

what do you mean by take responsibility? surely the responsible thing to do was to ring the guards instead of going out and leathering into a group of young lads.


also i know that a lot of guards are good at what they do, but a lot of times you are hearing more and more about thefts, etc that go un-answered or the like. i know the guards are very under resourced, like everything is at the moment, but is it not the right of a person to be able to access this resource and expect a bit of a result?

Think the thread should be called how to annoy your neighbours and ruin their party.

You called over before the party even started to complain about the noise, then you started calling the Gaurds from around 10pm on a Saturday night. Seriosuly 10 o clock on a Sat night for a once off birthday party? and you wonder why the neighbours didn't respond to you. Most normal people consider 11-11:30 the cut off point for noise not 10.

Samba wrote: »

Sigh..

Next time you leave a public licensed premises after a few drinks, you should call the Gards to come and arrest you immediately, because strictly speaking you're breaking the law.

And if you're making a nuisance of yourself they should.

allibastor wrote: »

actually i only asked if they could stop shouting into the mic for a while as i had a baby asleep. and if you read anything instead of just putting up stupid comments you would see that i only complained after they had gone around looking for fights.

Oh my mistake i just read the words you wrote in your very first post where you said you rang about the party. Thats my mistake for thinking "i rang about the party" means "i rang about them starting fights" I will try to read the hidden meaning in your posts. But from your confrontational reply i can see why the neighbours shut the door on you.

As i read it from the post you made YOU went to their house to confront them, YOU then rang the gaurds 3 times and YOU stood in the street talking to your neighbours about it, YOU went outside to confront them again.

That's 5 times YOU were the agitator i one short spell, also it doesn't sound like the kids were running around starting fights, it sounds like they where in high spirits out in the streets and YOU went out with your aggressive attitude to confront them thinking they would simply back down but they stood up to you. That sounds like you where going around all day trying to start fights with your neighbours to me.

allibastor wrote: »

rang the guards then about the party, said they would look into it. rang them again about an hour later and said the would look into it again, other neighbours also rang as was talking to them outside. rang again at around midnight, guards said they called up but the people didnt turn down the music. then said there was nothing they could do about it, nothing about the loud noise, the fact that 15-17 yr old were drinking, the fact they were running around the estate looking for fights

Me self and a few of the lads went to a friends party on sat evening and decided to go to to the local garage to get a few cans before it stopped selling beer. On the way back we were having a right laugh when the same oulwan that had been moaning about the music earlier in the day came out and started whinging about us laughing and being too loud. One of the lads was about to give her a piece of his mind and we told him she wasn't worth it so we went back to the party and enjoyed all the crappy karaoke singing and had a laugh......

The end

Yes they still do there jobs despite being seriously under resourced. Your OP mentioned that they were very helpful when your house was broke into. You also mentioned about the Gardaí who were in trouble for thefts etc in different parts of the country, and that is terrible but they wil meet there fate two, there is always a few bad apples.
But you never said about the Gardaí who do the good things and the difficult things, from the community garda calling into an elderly victim of crime and having a chat with her so she can feel somewhat safer,
or calling into schools, escpecially in areas where kids are brought up to hate gardaí, spit at Gardaí and tell them to f*** off even before they reach school going age. they go in to the schools so that garda can be seen in a positive light and are not always there to lock some one up.
or what about the Gardaí jumping into rivers or house fires risking there own lives.
what about the Gardaí meeting scumbag junkies in there own time, in there own car just so they can get information as to where a serious amount of drugs are hidden.
what about the gardaí that at 5: 30am in the morning, just before fininshing night duty and its pissing rain outside, get called to a serious or fatal road accident , where some 19 year old is mangled inside the car or half way down the road completly disfigured, they pick the body up, clean the road, and then go to that 19 year olds house and tell his parents that there son is dead and watch their world crumble apart.
what about the gardaí who go to a suicide where a wife and kids have discovered there husband and father after putting a shotgun to his head. the blood and brains dripping from the ceiling and the kids roaring.
they have a tough enough job, and they are still doing it.

allibastor wrote: »

yes grumppants, that exactly what i did. i waited all day in my nice house to see who makes a noise then go out to fight with them.

i asked during the day just to keep the shouting down as i have a baby sleeping. i dont really think that was too bad.

and i went out to them when they were outside my house shouting. i only called the guards after this confrontation, i was talking to my neighbours who were also outside and came over to me to talk, i do actually get on with most of my neighbours. so we must all be wrong if we all rang the guards. i suppose that woman who found the lads in her back garden was wrong also to ring her husband to come back from work also.

i onyl got confrontational because you make very helpless comments. would you just stay inside and say nothing if you had small children alseep and lads were outside your house shouting????

hell i even moved the two out of thier normal bedrooms at the back of the house to one at the front so i would not have to ask them to turn the mucis down, trying to have a proactive approach.

I would have just said "ah its one night in the year, its a birthday, i remember being young once, the kids are still asleep since i put them in the front room, there is no need for me to go stand in the street talking to the residence committee or confronting people about noise at 10pm on a sat". I would have realized that the whole world doesn't stop because i've decided to spawn some kids and i would have just watched some telly and gone to bed.

Grumpypants wrote: »

But he called over during the day before the party had even started to start complaining about the party ffs !

You make it sound like he picketed his neighbours the minute he heard they having a party. Do you not speak to your neighbours? Can you not envisage saying hello, and asking what might be happening later on? Is this such a strange concept?

Forest Master wrote: »

Maybe on a Saturday night they had more important things to be doing than looking into a non-violent, non-disruptive party? Probably thousands going on all around the country - drunk & noisy people, but not causing any significant disruption except to busy-bodies.
I have an 11 month-old baby - and IMO, Friday & Saturday nights are fair game for parties - my neighbours have had a few - I've just dealt with it. They're entitled to entertain their friends & have some fun. Singstar until 4am can be irritating, but it's fair game. As long as it isn't a work-night or a constant issue.

+1 well said!!! do have the odd party myself ,as do the neighbours, its not a weekly thing on either just the odd time, whats the harm..if you make a big deal of it they will prob have them more regular....... just forget it !!

bucketybuck wrote: »

You make it sound like he picketed his neighbours the minute he heard they having a party. Do you not speak to your neighbours? Can you not envisage saying hello, and asking what might be happening later on? Is this such a strange concept?

I do talk to all my neighbour's that's why if they where making some noise in the middle of the day i wouldn't go over demanding they stop as i had a baby asleep!!

They would also have called over a few days earlier to invite me and everyone else to the party.

We used to have a neighbour that would send around a newsletter telling people to be conscious of making noise in the evenings and to stop dogs barking as she had small kids! But if you came home after working a 12 hour night shift and went to bed at 9 am do you think she stopped her kids running around the streets shrieking all day outside peoples houses? No, did we complain? Hell no as that's what happens when you live in an estate people have lives and shops sell ear plugs.

senorwipesalot wrote: »

Last year I was involved in a minor collision with another car and the guards were called.The investigating ban garda agreed at the scene that the other party was at fault and this was agreed by the other driver.The bangarda asked us both to call to the station later to make a statement.
When I called to make my statement the bangarda greeted me with"Oh,Ive been speaking with my colleagues and we agreed it was 50/50" .
When I politely reminded her of her initial comments and your mans admission she completly denied it and started coming down heavy.
She "advised" me to drop it and sort out my own repairs.Now either the other party got a few strings pulled or that bitch couldnt be arsed doing her job.
WTF?
nyway ,its my only negative experience of the local gardai.

Have you had any positive experience?