Do The guards do their jobs anymore?

allibastor wrote: »

also, its not the whole profession i am dissing

Yes it is.

allibastor wrote: »

very helpful post. you must have used alot of energy thinking that one up

No need to insult me dude, you are dissing the whole Gard population, no matter how much you say you aren't. You are dissing all Gards because of one incident, one incident.

allibastor wrote: »

im not saying that they are complete rubbish, but at the same time it could be better.

In my opinion,too many of them do not do their jobs.People on this site seem to have a rose tinted view of our boys in blue.
I have worked with the gardai on a professional level and I can tell you too many of them are incompotent and shouldn't be in their jobs.
Too many are overweight.
Too many see the job as the safe,permanent,pensionable option and have no real interest or aptitude for the job.
Too many just do not want to know and I have witnessed guards actively avoid and walk away from trouble.
The OP has a legitimate complaint.Granted there seems to be little a guard can do about noise under existing legislation however the gardai have discretion in this area and if there are teenagers roaming around,trespassing and spiling for a fight and pissed then YES the gardai can and should do something.Otherwise what happens in these situations is that people like the OP do get involved and someone ends up getting stabbed.

The mission of the Gardai is "Working with Communities to Protect and Serve."

It states on their website some of their functions include.....
"working with communities to prevent anti-social behaviour"

Is keeping people awake all hours, fighting around the Estate and squaring up to people, lurking in gardens, etc. not covered under that description? It is where I live.


I posted a thread recently about a negative experience I had with a Garda. People automatically assumed that it was me who was in the wrong, it just could not have been the Garda

I really dont think it is up to the OP to knock at the door of the "parents of the child whose birthday party it was". You hear stories of people going to confront anti-social neighbours or gangs of kids and getting attacked and often stabbed to death. Safety first. Also it is up to the parents of the child whose birthday party it was to ensure their child and guests are behaving themselves, not the OP:rolleyes:

OP, your title is disrespectful to any hard working member of the Gardai of whom there are many, but your complaint is legitimate and I am sure one many people experience.

Instead of ranting about the OP - has anyone come up with a solution?

If you have a Residents Association, could you not ask them to approach your local Community Garda? Especially if the neighbours on your road have the same issues. The Community Garda may approach the neighbour in question and try and smooth things over. They are usually excellent and have the right manner so they get their point accross without rubbing people up the wrong way. Works in a lot of cases and is still seen as "having a word" without taking it too serious. Could nip it all in the bud.

Go to your local station and speak to the highest ranked officier on duty and lodge an official complaint.

Under age drinking, drunk and disorderly, disturbance of the peace are criminal matters.

allibastor wrote: »

well try and put up something helpful then.

In fairness, you weren't asking for something helpful, you were asking if other people thought the same as you do - that gards aren't doing their job.

i have never said all guards are useless or anything like that. it was just the thread name, which i cant change.

I still beg to differ, my previous post has a quote from you implying all Gards, and referring to the Gardai as 'it', which again implies all Gards. But I won't keep going on about it.

i just asked if they should be doing the job a small bit better.

Who? All Gards, some Gards, or more to the point - the Gards in your area - should they have done more for your particular situation? Yeah, personally I would like to have had more Gardai interaction if I was in your shoes that night.

allibastor wrote: »

hell my next door neighbour had to get her husband back from night work because two lads climbed into her back garden and then could not get out so ran over the side gate.

that's trespassing on private property....why should someone have to come back from WORK because his wife is in fear.

if I looked out my back garden and saw two lads there I would call the police immediately and tell them people are lurking around there.......not on

allibastor wrote: »

hi, yeah i agree with you, but short of putting up badge id i cant really distinguise between the guards. and as i said, most of the time the guards are good. i was burgled before and they were very helpful

Great to hear that you've had a good experience with them also.

Would it not be an idea to pop into a station and ask them what the correct protocol is for raising such issues in your hood? And if they say - call us, we'll pop over and check it out, you can say - well, I don't feel you did tbh, can I raise a complaint then?

Forest Master wrote: »

:rolleyes: More exaggerating... There was no fighting - and where did you even get "lurking" from? Why can't you just make your point using the facts that the OP provided? Is your point only valid when you use hyperbole?

Maybe if someone got stabbed that would be exaggerating....ah sure they were just tickling him with the knife.

Did Op not say people were squaring up and had to be physically pulled apart to stop a fight....that's fighting in my book and anti social behaviour.

And if someone has to return to work because two his wife is afraid of two people hanging round their back garden of their property in the dead of night, thats lurking about.

My points are valid because the mission of the Gardai is to protect communities from anti social behaviour.