Adult Shops - Do they have a place in society?

badabing106 · 21-08-2011 01:32AM

Ally Dick wrote: »

I don't think we should ever get like England with body parts on display on the top shelfs of general newsagents.

In every subway station in Germany there is a "beat house" where adults can go masterbate over thousands of videos of their choice, without recrimination and procrastianation. These outlets are in full view, not hidden away!

It amazes me out conservative people can be, and can only refer to "things" as "body parts".. penis and masterbation and vagina are not bad words!

Anne summers is a lingerie shop, nothing riske about it.

An Adult shop selling dvds/toys to over 18s= non riske /nothing to talk to joe about lol

Chuck Stone · 21-08-2011 01:33AM

Better to have it out in the open so it can be monitored by society. Outlawing it just drives it into the realm of scummers.

Biggins · 21-08-2011 01:34AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Bit of an issue when they have stuff in the window or posters stuck up outside.

I would totally agree with you there - but as the Summers shops or indeed as the shop jpeg above shows

krudler wrote: »

http://s3-media3.px.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/aRaZl0KZr3IKvcwOmeQq2A/l.jpg

of the other type shops do, they can be done nicely too without over doing it to the point of offence and/or over exposure.

stovelid · 21-08-2011 01:36AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Bit of an issue when they have stuff in the window or posters stuck up outside.

But they never do.

Bipolar Joe · 21-08-2011 01:37AM

badabing106 wrote: »

In every subway station in Germany there is a "beat house" where adults can go masterbate over thousands of videos of their choice, without recrimination and procrastianation. These outlets are in full view, not hidden away!

Ya what? I was only there two months ago, fairly confident I didn't spot any dudes whacking one out any place.

Wolfe Tone · 21-08-2011 01:38AM

Biggins wrote: »

The windows were indeed completely frosted up and showed absolutely nothing outside or as to contents - and was in fact around the corner slightly further down a wide alleyway (disco at the bottom of it and apartments).
Young minds I suggest even by passing in close proximity, would have known little or nothing to its inner contents, just even in passing.

Would you object if it wasn't so "reserved"? I distinctly remember once upon a time there being posters outside and a little sign thing detailing what was on offer.

I don't have a major objection to the content of these shops, I've been in a few myself, I dislike the "in your face" aspects some have and their general seediness, and I don't think its good for kids to be exposed. Not in my town I say, or at least out of sight.

Sure everything is cheaper on the internet!

jive · 21-08-2011 01:40AM

K-9 wrote: »

Anne Summers is like the McDonalds of sex shops. Over priced, commercialised crap.

McDonalds is over priced?? They sell burgers for a €1....

My name is URL · 21-08-2011 01:40AM

I remember seeing one in Dundlak which was close to a head-shop and across the road from a cash converters and a 'RA-head bar, lol.

Don't see a problem with them in a normal commercial setting, but when they're in places where other somewhat questionable shit goes on then it doesn't do their image much good.

K-9 · 21-08-2011 01:43AM

jive wrote: »

McDonalds is over priced?? They sell burgers for a €1....

I did have a full stop after the comparison.

badabing106 · 21-08-2011 01:44AM

Anyone who has lived in any european country for more than a week would be more open minded than some people on this thread

Biggins · 21-08-2011 01:45AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Would you object if it wasn't so "reserved"? I distinctly remember once upon a time there being posters outside and a little sign thing detailing what was on offer.

I honestly don't remember that, and I used the taxi office right next door to it almost daily (- still do).
I never seen any posters in their large windows - never mind exposing their wares - and I know the Taxi company owner (a good friend) wouldn't have stood for it either if that was the prolonged case.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I don't have a major objection to the content of these shops, I've been in a few myself, I dislike the "in your face" aspects some have and their general seediness, and I don't think its good for kids to be exposed. Not in my town I say, or at least out of sight.

I see where your coming from (no pun intended!

) but I think they do have a right to exist along with other shops - even if only to some degree within guidelines of local/national by-laws, etc.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

...Sure everything is cheaper on the internet!

Very true but sometimes as with clothing, etc, a two inch monitor picture is not adequate as to be able to judge the quality of a supposed stated product.
Sometimes the personal ability to assess an item at close quarters before purchase is still advisable and useful too.

starbelgrade · 21-08-2011 01:49AM

Biggins wrote: »

I assume there is in every town, regulations as to what can be displayed or that the decor of a shop frontage, has to be within local (and maybe national?) guidelines.
So "tasteful" in frontage so that no one is offended as they pass by and don't enter - if you know what I mean.

Every shop front or change to a shop front, needs planning permission. The problem in Ireland is that the department who enforces planning ie., Building Control, are vastly understaffed, which is why you see so many garish looking shop fronts popping up all over the place. Most of them without any planning permission whatsoever.

Biggins · 21-08-2011 01:50AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Every shop front or change to a shop front, needs planning permission. The problem in Ireland is that the department who enforces planning ie., Building Control, are vastly understaffed, which is why you see so many garish looking shop fronts popping up all over the place. Most of them without any planning permission whatsoever.

Possibly very true.
(I don't know myself but will take your good word on it.)

I do know my home town do have strict guidelines and they are often enforced.

Da Shins Kelly · 21-08-2011 01:52AM

I have no problem with their existence, myself and my friends get a great laugh out of them when we pop in now and again. However, I still think that people are trying to get used to the idea of them, so they're still a little bit sordid-looking and located in strange places (in some parts of Ireland) that are kind of out of the way so it all seems very seedy.

starbelgrade · 21-08-2011 01:54AM

Biggins wrote: »

Possibly very true.
(I don't know myself but will take your good word on it.)

I do know my home town do have strict guidelines and they are often enforced.

It's definitely true. The enforcement comes down to how vigilant each local authority is & what resources they have available to them. There's also the not so small matter of political pressure, which is sadly, still a huge factor when it comes to planning & enforcement.

The Val Falvey effect is still pretty much alive in many towns & villages across Ireland.

Biggins · 21-08-2011 01:55AM

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I have no problem with their existence, myself and my friends get a great laugh out of them when we pop in now and again. However, I still think that people are trying to get used to the idea of them, so they're still a little bit sordid-looking and located in strange places (in some parts of Ireland) that are kind of out of the way so it all seems very seedy.

I could be wrong but I feel part of the problem is that, as long as they are seen to be shoved away in darkened alley corners or spots sometimes, they will forever be seen as such 'seedy' places.
Its a double edged sword, their locations can be.

Biggins · 21-08-2011 01:56AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

...The Val Falvey effect is still pretty much alive in many towns & villages across Ireland.

*Goes on a Google search*

starbelgrade · 21-08-2011 02:06AM

Ireland can be quite a backward island when it comes to things of a sexual nature. Stringfellows in Dublin was basically shut down by a load of locals who didn't want "sex on their doorstep".

That despite the fact that the capital probably has more knocking shops that Amsterdam.

As long as people maintain their democratic right to be fucking idiots & as long as Joe Duffy is still around to give them a voice, then the herd mentalilty will sadly win out more often than not.

Having said that, I still think Peter Stringfellow is a twat & I really wasn't that sad to see one of his businesses fail.

Jimoslimos · 21-08-2011 02:08AM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Biggins that shop was located right beside the library, which as you know is frequented by lots of kids.

Kids these days go to the library?

Bipolar Joe · 21-08-2011 02:09AM

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ireland can be quite a backward island when it comes to things of a sexual nature. Stringfellows in Dublin was basically shut down by a load of locals who didn't want "sex on their doorstep".

That despite the fact that the capital probably has more knocking shops that Amsterdam.

As long as people maintain their democratic right to be fucking idiots & as long as Joe Duffy is still around to give them a voice, then the herd mentalilty will sadly win out more often than not.

Having said that, I still think Peter Stringfellow is a twat & I really wasn't that sad to see one of his businesses fail.

Yeah, even his hair makes me want to punch him. He has that effect (Intense, seething jealousy).

iguana · 21-08-2011 02:35AM

stovelid wrote: »

I saw one once in Prague called EROTIC CITY.

Did you go to the sex museum in Prague? I saw a fair few things in there that you wouldn't be getting in an Ann Summers. I especially liked the the dildo-see-saw. Though I'd prefer a non-wooden version, because of the splinters!:eek:

Like this, http://www.flickr.com/photos/roonie/36719269/

teol · 21-08-2011 02:36AM

Ann Summers does a roaring trade. My GF loves the place.

starbelgrade · 21-08-2011 02:38AM

iguana wrote: »

Did you go to the sex museum in Prague? I saw a fair few things in there that you wouldn't be getting in an Ann Summers. I especially liked the the dildo-see-saw. Though I'd prefer a non-wooden version, because of the splinters!:eek:

Like this, http://www.flickr.com/photos/roonie/36719269/

I wonder if that's where the Coen brothers got the idea for the sex chair that George Clooney built in "Burn After Reading"?!!

jimmycrackcorm · 21-08-2011 02:39AM

How did so many people only get as far as option a without reading option b? I blame sec for that.

Da Shins Kelly · 21-08-2011 02:41AM

Biggins wrote: »

I could be wrong but I feel part of the problem is that, as long as they are seen to be shoved away in darkened alley corners or spots sometimes, they will forever be seen as such 'seedy' places.
Its a double edged sword, their locations can be.

Tis. People are going to complain if it's all out there in the open ('someone think of the children!', etc.), but they're gonna continue to be seen as places for dirty old men or whatever if they're pushed away. So, I dunno. On one hand, I get it when people say that maybe having shops with dildos and horrible DVDs (have you seen the titles, not to mention the pictures on these DVDs? I'm of age and find this stuff quite hilarious, but even I was slightly disgusted at some of them) and such out there on the main street is not great with kids running around, but at the same time I don't think they should be relegated to dark, narrow alleys either.

10green bottles · 21-08-2011 02:50AM

My name is URL wrote: »

I remember seeing one in Dundlak which was close to a head-shop and across the road from a cash converters and a 'RA-head bar, lol.

Don't see a problem with them in a normal commercial setting, but when they're in places where other somewhat questionable shit goes on then it doesn't do their image much good.

That was just a lingerie shop.There is one(an adult shop) further up the street(in Bridge st.) that is directly accross the road from St.Nicholas church.Signage and promo stuff has too be kept to the mimium to stay within the licensing law.

iguana · 21-08-2011 02:51AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

How did so many people only get as far as option a without reading option b? I blame sec for that.

I debated between "a" and "b" but chose "a" as I don't think sex shops are any more acceptable because couples can use their wares together. It's not as if the goods they provide to single people, serial monogamists, orgy lovers, etc are only valid if respectable married couples also benefit from them.

later12 · 21-08-2011 03:00AM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

How did so many people only get as far as option a without reading option b? I blame sec for that.

I chose A over B, because the survival of a romantic or marital relationship is not the concern of the state or of society.

We ought to have moved past the stage of governing people with the intention of prolonging their marriage. Sex shops are acceptable because there is no logical reason to restrict individual freedoms in opposing them. Nothing to do with keeping people together.

Chuck Stone · 21-08-2011 03:06AM

Is there any Sex Shop where one can actually purchase sex?

Sir Gallagher · 21-08-2011 03:15AM

I think this is a bit of a non issue to be honest.

Adult Shops - Do they have a place in society?

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