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Adult Shops - Do they have a place in society?

Biggins

I was asking elsewhere on the forum just about a location of Adult Shops and one opinion offered was that their town was better without "that type of shop".

So I ask the lads and lassies here if I may, whats your attitude to adult shops?
* Do they have a place and role in society?
* Does anyone have a problem with their existence as a shop or would they prefer the old (some could say outdated) ways of everything handled "under the counter" as such and spoken about in hushed voices attitude - or is it time some moved on with the times and treated such shops with the respect, service and acknowledgement they deserve today?

Myself, I feel its time that some of the old attitudes of "its not the dine thing" or "we all know these places exist but not on my street" need to be thrown out with the ways of the past that have become outdated and frankly crass.
I feel its time some old "behind closed doors" subjects need more so to be faced and maybe we then wouldn't have to much sexual frustration that might had in the past led to evil people, taking their inner frustrations out onto others in bad and often illegal ways.

Adult shops for me offer for me in todays society, a way not to damage a partnership or is indeed bad - but offer instead more ways to enhance the life of the one you love, be it man or woman - and its about time we should not be ashamed for wanting to do just that with a little help sometimes from facilities available from adult shops - such as Ann Summers and such like.

The poll question for the forum is this:

If done tastefully right, would an Ann Summers style shop be acceptable to you in existence within your own town?

Poll question should say "within"
(Maybe a mod can edit it?)

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badabing106

Ally Dick wrote: »

I don't think we should ever get like England with body parts on display on the top shelfs of general newsagents.

In every subway station in Germany there is a "beat house" where adults can go masterbate over thousands of videos of their choice, without recrimination and procrastianation. These outlets are in full view, not hidden away!

It amazes me out conservative people can be, and can only refer to "things" as "body parts".. penis and masterbation and vagina are not bad words!

Anne summers is a lingerie shop, nothing riske about it.

An Adult shop selling dvds/toys to over 18s= non riske /nothing to talk to joe about lol

Chuck Stone

Better to have it out in the open so it can be monitored by society. Outlawing it just drives it into the realm of scummers.

Biggins

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Bit of an issue when they have stuff in the window or posters stuck up outside.

I would totally agree with you there - but as the Summers shops or indeed as the shop jpeg above shows

krudler wrote: »

http://s3-media3.px.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/aRaZl0KZr3IKvcwOmeQq2A/l.jpg

of the other type shops do, they can be done nicely too without over doing it to the point of offence and/or over exposure.

stovelid

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Bit of an issue when they have stuff in the window or posters stuck up outside.

But they never do.

Bipolar Joe

badabing106 wrote: »

In every subway station in Germany there is a "beat house" where adults can go masterbate over thousands of videos of their choice, without recrimination and procrastianation. These outlets are in full view, not hidden away!

Ya what? I was only there two months ago, fairly confident I didn't spot any dudes whacking one out any place.

Wolfe Tone

Biggins wrote: »

The windows were indeed completely frosted up and showed absolutely nothing outside or as to contents - and was in fact around the corner slightly further down a wide alleyway (disco at the bottom of it and apartments).
Young minds I suggest even by passing in close proximity, would have known little or nothing to its inner contents, just even in passing.

Would you object if it wasn't so "reserved"? I distinctly remember once upon a time there being posters outside and a little sign thing detailing what was on offer.

I don't have a major objection to the content of these shops, I've been in a few myself, I dislike the "in your face" aspects some have and their general seediness, and I don't think its good for kids to be exposed. Not in my town I say, or at least out of sight.

Sure everything is cheaper on the internet!

jive

K-9 wrote: »

Anne Summers is like the McDonalds of sex shops. Over priced, commercialised crap.

McDonalds is over priced?? They sell burgers for a €1....

My name is URL

I remember seeing one in Dundlak which was close to a head-shop and across the road from a cash converters and a 'RA-head bar, lol.

Don't see a problem with them in a normal commercial setting, but when they're in places where other somewhat questionable shit goes on then it doesn't do their image much good.

K-9

jive wrote: »

McDonalds is over priced?? They sell burgers for a €1....

I did have a full stop after the comparison.

badabing106

Anyone who has lived in any european country for more than a week would be more open minded than some people on this thread

Biggins

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Would you object if it wasn't so "reserved"? I distinctly remember once upon a time there being posters outside and a little sign thing detailing what was on offer.

I honestly don't remember that, and I used the taxi office right next door to it almost daily (- still do).
I never seen any posters in their large windows - never mind exposing their wares - and I know the Taxi company owner (a good friend) wouldn't have stood for it either if that was the prolonged case.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I don't have a major objection to the content of these shops, I've been in a few myself, I dislike the "in your face" aspects some have and their general seediness, and I don't think its good for kids to be exposed. Not in my town I say, or at least out of sight.

I see where your coming from (no pun intended!

) but I think they do have a right to exist along with other shops - even if only to some degree within guidelines of local/national by-laws, etc.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

...Sure everything is cheaper on the internet!

Very true but sometimes as with clothing, etc, a two inch monitor picture is not adequate as to be able to judge the quality of a supposed stated product.
Sometimes the personal ability to assess an item at close quarters before purchase is still advisable and useful too.

starbelgrade

Biggins wrote: »

I assume there is in every town, regulations as to what can be displayed or that the decor of a shop frontage, has to be within local (and maybe national?) guidelines.
So "tasteful" in frontage so that no one is offended as they pass by and don't enter - if you know what I mean.

Every shop front or change to a shop front, needs planning permission. The problem in Ireland is that the department who enforces planning ie., Building Control, are vastly understaffed, which is why you see so many garish looking shop fronts popping up all over the place. Most of them without any planning permission whatsoever.

Biggins

starbelgrade wrote: »

Every shop front or change to a shop front, needs planning permission. The problem in Ireland is that the department who enforces planning ie., Building Control, are vastly understaffed, which is why you see so many garish looking shop fronts popping up all over the place. Most of them without any planning permission whatsoever.

Possibly very true.
(I don't know myself but will take your good word on it.)

I do know my home town do have strict guidelines and they are often enforced.

Da Shins Kelly

I have no problem with their existence, myself and my friends get a great laugh out of them when we pop in now and again. However, I still think that people are trying to get used to the idea of them, so they're still a little bit sordid-looking and located in strange places (in some parts of Ireland) that are kind of out of the way so it all seems very seedy.

starbelgrade

Biggins wrote: »

Possibly very true.
(I don't know myself but will take your good word on it.)

I do know my home town do have strict guidelines and they are often enforced.

It's definitely true. The enforcement comes down to how vigilant each local authority is & what resources they have available to them. There's also the not so small matter of political pressure, which is sadly, still a huge factor when it comes to planning & enforcement.

The Val Falvey effect is still pretty much alive in many towns & villages across Ireland.

Biggins

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I have no problem with their existence, myself and my friends get a great laugh out of them when we pop in now and again. However, I still think that people are trying to get used to the idea of them, so they're still a little bit sordid-looking and located in strange places (in some parts of Ireland) that are kind of out of the way so it all seems very seedy.

I could be wrong but I feel part of the problem is that, as long as they are seen to be shoved away in darkened alley corners or spots sometimes, they will forever be seen as such 'seedy' places.
Its a double edged sword, their locations can be.

Biggins

starbelgrade wrote: »

...The Val Falvey effect is still pretty much alive in many towns & villages across Ireland.

*Goes on a Google search*

starbelgrade

Ireland can be quite a backward island when it comes to things of a sexual nature. Stringfellows in Dublin was basically shut down by a load of locals who didn't want "sex on their doorstep".

That despite the fact that the capital probably has more knocking shops that Amsterdam.

As long as people maintain their democratic right to be fucking idiots & as long as Joe Duffy is still around to give them a voice, then the herd mentalilty will sadly win out more often than not.

Having said that, I still think Peter Stringfellow is a twat & I really wasn't that sad to see one of his businesses fail.

Jimoslimos

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Biggins that shop was located right beside the library, which as you know is frequented by lots of kids.

Kids these days go to the library?

Bipolar Joe

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ireland can be quite a backward island when it comes to things of a sexual nature. Stringfellows in Dublin was basically shut down by a load of locals who didn't want "sex on their doorstep".

That despite the fact that the capital probably has more knocking shops that Amsterdam.

As long as people maintain their democratic right to be fucking idiots & as long as Joe Duffy is still around to give them a voice, then the herd mentalilty will sadly win out more often than not.

Having said that, I still think Peter Stringfellow is a twat & I really wasn't that sad to see one of his businesses fail.

Yeah, even his hair makes me want to punch him. He has that effect (Intense, seething jealousy).

iguana

stovelid wrote: »

I saw one once in Prague called EROTIC CITY.

Did you go to the sex museum in Prague? I saw a fair few things in there that you wouldn't be getting in an Ann Summers. I especially liked the the dildo-see-saw. Though I'd prefer a non-wooden version, because of the splinters!:eek:

Like this, http://www.flickr.com/photos/roonie/36719269/

teol

Ann Summers does a roaring trade. My GF loves the place.

starbelgrade

iguana wrote: »

Did you go to the sex museum in Prague? I saw a fair few things in there that you wouldn't be getting in an Ann Summers. I especially liked the the dildo-see-saw. Though I'd prefer a non-wooden version, because of the splinters!:eek:

Like this, http://www.flickr.com/photos/roonie/36719269/

I wonder if that's where the Coen brothers got the idea for the sex chair that George Clooney built in "Burn After Reading"?!!

jimmycrackcorm

How did so many people only get as far as option a without reading option b? I blame sec for that.

Da Shins Kelly

Biggins wrote: »

I could be wrong but I feel part of the problem is that, as long as they are seen to be shoved away in darkened alley corners or spots sometimes, they will forever be seen as such 'seedy' places.
Its a double edged sword, their locations can be.

Tis. People are going to complain if it's all out there in the open ('someone think of the children!', etc.), but they're gonna continue to be seen as places for dirty old men or whatever if they're pushed away. So, I dunno. On one hand, I get it when people say that maybe having shops with dildos and horrible DVDs (have you seen the titles, not to mention the pictures on these DVDs? I'm of age and find this stuff quite hilarious, but even I was slightly disgusted at some of them) and such out there on the main street is not great with kids running around, but at the same time I don't think they should be relegated to dark, narrow alleys either.

10green bottles

My name is URL wrote: »

I remember seeing one in Dundlak which was close to a head-shop and across the road from a cash converters and a 'RA-head bar, lol.

Don't see a problem with them in a normal commercial setting, but when they're in places where other somewhat questionable shit goes on then it doesn't do their image much good.

That was just a lingerie shop.There is one(an adult shop) further up the street(in Bridge st.) that is directly accross the road from St.Nicholas church.Signage and promo stuff has too be kept to the mimium to stay within the licensing law.

iguana

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

How did so many people only get as far as option a without reading option b? I blame sec for that.

I debated between "a" and "b" but chose "a" as I don't think sex shops are any more acceptable because couples can use their wares together. It's not as if the goods they provide to single people, serial monogamists, orgy lovers, etc are only valid if respectable married couples also benefit from them.

later12

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

How did so many people only get as far as option a without reading option b? I blame sec for that.

I chose A over B, because the survival of a romantic or marital relationship is not the concern of the state or of society.

We ought to have moved past the stage of governing people with the intention of prolonging their marriage. Sex shops are acceptable because there is no logical reason to restrict individual freedoms in opposing them. Nothing to do with keeping people together.

Chuck Stone

Is there any Sex Shop where one can actually purchase sex?

Sir Gallagher

I think this is a bit of a non issue to be honest.