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Two Irish women murdered in Turkey!

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  • #32
    pickarooney
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    How does a 17 year old lure two women in their 50s into the woods? :confused:


  • #33
    lastlaugh
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    How does a 17 year old lure two women in their 50s into the woods? :confused:

    Were they meant to be at Boating trip and the daughter called the Police after they didn't return?

    If the 17yo was putting pressure on to try and marry the 15yo girl, chances are the father was encouraging him. He has been arrested along with a Taxi driver.

    The young fella looks like a right sleaze bag.


  • #34
    hightower1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭hightower1


    Well being a muslim country where religious and social rights of women are lesser of that than males I would imagine that would have had a contributing factor in this one persons view on these two people - of lack there of.



    - I am not pigeon holing muslims as murderers but its a fact that women have a lesser social standing than men in muslim countries and we know as fact that in the mind of a killer it is easier for them to dehumanize / harm someone they view to be weaker or of less social standing. See sharia law for factual information on females role / standing in their culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia


  • #35
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Getting back to Turkey, its as safe as any other country

    I know more than a few people who would disagree with that.


  • #36
    7sr2z3fely84g5
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    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Did anybody see that documentery a few years ago about the women in their fifties going over to Turkey and hooking up with younger men? It was extremely cringeworthy.

    turkish wives club-
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4605430147418210671


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  • #37
    lastlaugh
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    hightower1 wrote: »
    Well being a muslim country where religious and social rights of women are lesser of that than males I would imagine that would have had a contributing factor in this one persons view on these two people - of lack there of.



    - I am not pigeon holing muslims as murderers but its a fact that women have a lesser social standing than men in muslim countries and we know as fact that in the mind of a killer it is easier for them to dehumanize / harm someone they view to be weaker or of less social standing. See sharia law for factual information on females role / standing in their culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

    I would imagine that these two women were very different in character than the local women the men are used to dealing with.
    Perhaps the Mother told the sleaze bags Father to F*ck Off in no uncertain terms, and he didn't take it too well. If they are used to being the 'boss', I'm sure dealing with a loud assertive women would be a serious issue for them.


  • #38
    lastlaugh
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    Livia Cool Amphibian wrote: »
    turkish wives club-
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4605430147418210671

    Absolutley appaling watching.
    It's obvious the main Aul one's husband couldn't give a Sh!te about her. She seems either blind to it or doesn't care.
    And she's asking him will he look after her when she's older and stuff.
    Dreadful.


  • #39
    7sr2z3fely84g5
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    lastlaugh wrote: »
    Absolutley appaling watching.
    It's obvious the main Aul one's husband couldn't give a Sh!te about her. She seems either blind to it or doesn't care.
    And she's asking him will he look after her when she's older and stuff.
    Dreadful.
    Agreed,but the same happens here i think,or love is blind.


  • #40
    lastlaugh
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    Livia Cool Amphibian wrote: »
    Agreed,but the same happens here i think,or love is blind.

    I not sure if it does though.
    They were going over specifically to see if they could find 'love'. I suppose if that's what they want to do, they are old enough to make up their own minds...


  • #41
    7sr2z3fely84g5
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    lastlaugh wrote: »
    I not sure if it does though.
    i think it does,i often seen very ugly sorts pushing buggies with non national fathers,i think some where to gain citizenship,even recently the gov was concerned with amount of "sham marriages" taking place.


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  • #42
    Bodhisopha
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    hightower1 wrote: »
    Well being a muslim country where religious and social rights of women are lesser of that than males I would imagine that would have had a contributing factor in this one persons view on these two people - of lack there of.



    - I am not pigeon holing muslims as murderers but its a fact that women have a lesser social standing than men in muslim countries and we know as fact that in the mind of a killer it is easier for them to dehumanize / harm someone they view to be weaker or of less social standing. See sharia law for factual information on females role / standing in their culture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

    It's a secular country where the social rights of women, as far as i have seen in my experience in the country, is pretty much equal to that of men.

    It's not Saudi Arabia.


  • #43
    lastlaugh
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    Livia Cool Amphibian wrote: »
    i think it does,i often seen very ugly sorts pushing buggies with non national fathers,i think some where to gain citizenship,even recently the gov was concerned with amount of "sham marriages" taking place.

    You're right, I used to wonder if Black fellas preferred big fat ugly white women until I realised they must be something else going on.
    (Ok, I'm gonna get slated for that)


  • #44
    Bodhisopha
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    lastlaugh wrote: »
    You're right, I used to wonder if Black fellas preferred big fat ugly white women until I realised they must be something else going on.
    (Ok, I'm gonna get slated for that)


    Big fat ugly white women prefer big black willies. That's a fact.


  • #45
    Steodonn
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    Lets follow this turk into the woods what could possibly go wrong

    Dont seem the smartest too women :confused:


  • #46
    lastlaugh
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    Steodonn wrote: »
    Lets follow this turk into the woods what could possibly go wrong

    Dont seem the smartest too women :confused:

    Your write.


  • #47
    mccarthy37
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    What a tragic story RIP. Turkey is a very dangerous country if you have a disagreement with someone from there they like to boast about it. I had a bad experience in Kusadasi after being ripped off with money exchange. Stay away from this country they seem friendly on the surface until something goes wrong then you will see another side that is far from friendly. God help their families they taught they were safe there sadly the truth is far different. What a hard lesson in life for such a young girl.


  • #48
    MagicSean
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    Whenever i think how ****ed up this country is a story like this makes me see how fortunate we are. Muslim countries with their archaic rules and laws, South America with it's drug wars and corruption, communist China, mob-ruled Russia, Africa in general. We don't even have to worry about natural disasters.


  • #49
    Saila
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    what the hell are some people banging on about in this thread. Its all there in black and white. The killer was one of the womens daughters-boyfiend who was told he couldnt ask the daughter to mary him after he asked the mother....then he killed her and her friend, what has that got to do with sharia law or any of that stuff, drop it! :confused:

    and just lock it, nothing but speculation here and anyone else can thank an RIP post


  • #50
    MagicSean
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    Saila wrote: »
    what the hell are some people banging on about in this thread. Its all there in black and white. The killer was one of the womens daughters-boyfiend who was told he couldnt ask the daughter to mary him after he asked the mother....then he killed her and her friend, what has that got to do with sharia law or any of that stuff, drop it! :confused:

    and just lock it, nothing but speculation here and anyone else can thank an RIP post

    It's indicative of the attitude towards women in muslim countries as a result of religious law.


  • #51
    Sonics2k
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    I do love how this thread has descended into some kinda bizarre anti-islam-all-turks-are-evil-sharia murderers- with no respect for women.

    It's a straight up simple case, psycho kid kills two innocent women.

    R.I.P. to both victims.


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  • #52
    stovelid
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    RIP

    I've rendered my RIP in a vivid crimson to give my public mourning a competitive edge.


  • #53
    Sonics2k
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    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    It's indicative of the attitude towards women in muslim countries as a result of religious law.

    How the hell is it?

    Just because the guy happens to be Muslim, it's an indication to how all Muslims treat women and the affects of the Law?

    Tell me, would your views apply if it was a Christian or Jew who killed them?


  • #54
    Hootanany
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    And how did the ugly fat ones marrying black fellas come in to it.

    Also RIP to the 2 ladies.


  • #55
    sunflower27
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    Horrific story. RIP.

    My heart goes out to the daughter - as others have said, how is she ever going to deal with this?

    I've never been to Turkey, but friends have and several said they wouldn't go back as the men can be totally overbearing and forward.


  • #56
    milkycoffey
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    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    It's indicative of the attitude towards women in muslim countries as a result of religious law.

    So everytime a murder occurs in a Christian European country, it is indicative of the attitude of Christians towards a human life?


  • #57
    gosuckonalemon
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    Earthday wrote: »
    RIP :(

    Is this common in Turkey?

    Very common, it happens every Tuesday and Thursday and the second last Saturday of every month,


  • #58
    Sooopie
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    stovelid wrote: »
    RIP

    I've rendered my RIP in a vivid crimson to give my public mourning a competitive edge.


    *mad impressed*


  • #59
    UngratefulWhelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭UngratefulWhelp


    There are some serious gobdaw know-it-alls on this thread. I've been to Turkey twice, and the western part of it is quite European in attitude.

    You do get a bit more pestered by shopkeepers, but that's about it. To decry it as "dangerous" on the basis of a random murder carried out by some maniac is simply moronic.

    Note to the deluded: stay at home and have your holidays in rainy Mayo or somewhere. Then we'll be all be better off and won't even have to listen to you moan about how burgers and chips weren't up to Irish standards.


  • #60
    old_aussie
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    Sonics2k wrote: »

    Just because the guy happens to be Muslim, it's an indication to how all Muslims treat women and the affects of the Law?

    Wanted to marry 15 yo, that's pretty much a muslim thing.


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  • #61
    UngratefulWhelp
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    old_aussie wrote: »
    Sonics2k wrote: »

    Just because the guy happens to be Muslim, it's an indication to how all Muslims treat women and the affects of the Law?

    QUOTE]

    Wanted to marry 15 yo, that's pretty much a muslim thing.

    That'd be why Mohammed Ward and all the rest of the lads are regularly seen rocking up to the local mosque in their Hiace.


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