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SmackDown is.... Mizark Henry!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    My biggest gripe with Rey his his moves cant really sell against bigger opponents


    Anyways i thought of a little character change for Henry..PREPARE FOR LONG POST!!!!

    Henry goes on over the next few weeks beating Sheamus,Barrett & Kane before beating Christian in a no.1 contenders match... After each victory the lights go out and a giant Skull like face appears on the titantron accompanied with an eeriee screech/laugh...Anyways after Orton defeats him at the following PPV,The lights go out.The skull appears and 8 hooded characters come to the ring and take Henry out of the arena shoulder high on a stretcher.

    Two or so months later after Orton beats Barrett or whoever at a PPV..The lights go out and Papa Shongo appears on the ramp with The Silver back..He has his face painted like Shongo and long dreads..He destroys Orton in the ring and beats him on the following SmackDown for a 5/6 month title reign..

    The plus for this angle would be to reinvent Henry,Give him a solid character he can work with for the rest of his career,Give him Papa Shongo as a manager to work his promo's and give SmackDown a proper heel to work with..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Realistic World's Strongest Man gimmick replaced by Hulkamania Era goofy Papa Shango remake.....


    ....no.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    Realistic World's Strongest Man gimmick replaced by Hulkamania Era goofy Papa Shango remake.....


    ....no.....

    do you just disagree with everything i say??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Prop Joe wrote: »
    My biggest gripe with Rey his his moves cant really sell against bigger opponents


    Anyways i thought of a little character change for Henry..PREPARE FOR LONG POST!!!!

    Henry goes on over the next few weeks beating Sheamus,Barrett & Kane before beating Christian in a no.1 contenders match... After each victory the lights go out and a giant Skull like face appears on the titantron accompanied with an eeriee screech/laugh...Anyways after Orton defeats him at the following PPV,The lights go out.The skull appears and 8 hooded characters come to the ring and take Henry out of the arena shoulder high on a stretcher.

    Two or so months later after Orton beats Barrett or whoever at a PPV..The lights go out and Papa Shongo appears on the ramp with The Silver back..He has his face painted like Shongo and long dreads..He destroys Orton in the ring and beats him on the following SmackDown for a 5/6 month title reign..

    The plus for this angle would be to reinvent Henry,Give him a solid character he can work with for the rest of his career,Give him Papa Shongo as a manager to work his promo's and give SmackDown a proper heel to work with..

    I like your style. I could see the old slime down the face gimmick working well on someone like Rey Mysterio, where you see the slime filling up his mask like water balloon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Prop Joe wrote: »
    Henry has been pushed but with terrible storylines,I just wish he was givin a proper go,Im sayin Mysterio has very little talent and has became a huge star

    Mysterio has been a dull as hell face for years but he still pulls off great matches, go back to the early 2000's and he was having amazing matches, try find his match with Angle at Summerslam 2002, one of the best opening ppv matches ever imo.

    Henry has always been a pissbreak/channel surfing wrestler for me, seriously how many failed pushes can one guy get, he's never been properly over, ever. when a 15 year veteran (thats mad! he's been around what, 6 years less than Taker?) cant get a reaction and is mostly remembered for being a bit of a fiend for some granny arse you know somethings gone wrong with a career. Provided Taker with his last crappy Mania match at 22, an absolute snoozefest of a casket match, compared with the matches he's had with Batista,Edge,Shawn and HHH since. says a lot when Taker cant drag a good match out of you on the biggest card of the year, if thats not motivation I dunno what it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I couldn't care less about his strongman gimmick (bending frying pans on TV is not impressive - years of worked props (eg cynder blocks) have made me distrusting of any 'feats' in wrestling, even if it's real) so i'd like to see where this Papa Shango is going! :) couldn't be any worse than having the same character he's had for 10 years.

    i worry it might turn out to be a winter/angelina love botch tho...worth a try.

    If Ron Simmons wasn't over with the 'damn' thing, I'd have him as manager. Sure just turn him heel and have him do the scary promos with Henry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Prop Joe wrote: »
    do you just disagree with everything i say??
    I've had to so far. I don't agree with you at all about Rey Mysterio or how to book Mark Henry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Prop Joe wrote: »
    Give him Papa Shongo as a manager to work his promo's and give SmackDown a proper heel to work with..
    jaykhunter wrote: »
    If Ron Simmons wasn't over with the 'damn' thing, I'd have him as manager. Sure just turn him heel and have him do the scary promos with Henry.

    A Nation of Domination reformation confirmation would be an ideal situation - with Survivor Series around the corner (And Rocky Maivia is confirmed for Survivor Series!)

    Dunno about Papa Shango as Henrys manager, would have to be a total change in Henrys character, which actually might be a good thing though.

    A manager could be something refreshing for him, although didn't he have Tony Atlas as his manager a couple years ago and that didn't last very long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Charisteas wrote: »
    A Nation of Domination reformation confirmation
    You did that on purpose ಠ_ಠ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Came across this on Reddit



    I mentioned it on the other thread that I've always liked Mark Henry. He was/is legitimately the World's Strongest Man. He's gotten a lot of pushes but never went right to the top. He had the ECW title for a while but sure feck that.

    I wouldn't have thought I'd want him to get the title becuase I never really saw the appeal of it, and then I came across the vid.

    Feel free to merge this with Mizark Henry if you want, but I'd like to see what people think about Mark Henry being given the title at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Are you a proponent for Ted Arcidi and Dino Bravo as well? :pac: He was never world's strongest man, but did great in the Arnold Strongman Classic and with bicep curls. But tbh these 'outside' credentials mean nothing in sports-entertainment, look at Ken Patera! It's what you do week to week that matters.

    So many failed pushes over the last 15 years; he needs a fresh gimmick, or at least a mouthpiece or something to say 'this is a new day, we're serious about pushing henry as the main guy'. I can't get behind him in his current same-y form but if WWE actually get behind him (ala JBL) then I might.

    But for me he's just a steady hand, steak and stripclubs!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert



    I posted it a couple of days ago....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Mark Henry is probably my least favourite wrestler of all time. I truly dread watching the man.

    Also the earlier mentions of casual racism are ridiculous. Fans don't take to him because he is a lumbering, useless, boring goon. The era of black wrestlers being held back purely because they are black is thankfully long gone as The Rock, Booker T, R-Truth etc show.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    The era of black wrestlers being held back purely because they are black

    Your middle name isnt "P.S." by chance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    rovert wrote: »
    Your middle name isnt "P.S." by chance?

    I think the rest of my sentence proves that to be a giant NO.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Are you a proponent for Ted Arcidi and Dino Bravo as well? :pac: He was never world's strongest man, but did great in the Arnold Strongman Classic and with bicep curls. But tbh these 'outside' credentials mean nothing in sports-entertainment, look at Ken Patera! It's what you do week to week that matters.

    I think the line in bold needs to be pointed out more often!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    I think the line in bold needs to be pointed out more often!

    Yup Wrestling promotions should be called out for embellishing things :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    In other embellishing news, the Undertaker does not actually harvest souls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    rovert wrote: »
    Yup Wrestling promotions should be called out for embellishing things :pac:

    Last time I checked people in this thread calling him the world's strongest man are not wrestling promotions. In other words:

    Vince McMahon calling him the world's strongest man=Fine
    Boardsies=Stupid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    Just wanted to chime in here to point out for the Henry fans, that we've got a big feature on the man in the next FSM, so look out for it. There's also quite a few facts and tidbits that detractors might a little eye-opening.

    In terms of the moniker, "world's strongest man", it may suprise some people to learn how many people in weight-lifting and power-lifting would consider Henry as having had a legitimate claim to that title.

    I think Henry's been on terrific form the past few months, and has a real presence about him.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    has a real presence about him.

    What makes you say that?

    henryusojoca.gif

    smellc7ch.gif

    :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    In other embellishing news, the Undertaker does not actually harvest souls.

    Source?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    rovert wrote: »
    What makes you say that?

    henryusojoca.gif

    smellc7ch.gif

    :P

    Just not the same without the usual canned Heat in front of a disinterested crowd.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I've read the 15 years thing a few times in this thread.

    Why hold what he has done in the past against him like that?

    The only thing that matters in Wrestling is what you are capable of doing today. Is Mark Henry capable of playing a credible monster, a credible threat to the WHC? Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Holding his previous gimmicks and actions against him isn't fair.

    Thats like holding Mean Mark Callous against The Undertaker and Rocky Maivia agsint The Rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭charlieharper


    I stopped watching WWE 4 years ago as it was just getting worse & worse but i'd follow it every now & then. So I log onto the website I see Mark Henry win a 20 man battle royal. I mean Mark Henry was NEVER any good, he has never got over, his most famous moment was fathering a rubber hand with Mae Young.

    Does anyone actually rate him?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    I stopped watching WWE 4 years ago as it was just getting worse & worse but i'd follow it every now & then. So I log onto the website I see Mark Henry win a 20 man battle royal. I mean Mark Henry was NEVER any good, he has never got over, his most famous moment was fathering a rubber hand with Mae Young.

    Does anyone actually rate him?

    Yes

    And in here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056359904


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Judging by the amount of discussion about him recently, Mark is a draw:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    I stopped watching WWE 4 years ago as it was just getting worse & worse but i'd follow it every now & then. So I log onto the website I see Mark Henry win a 20 man battle royal. I mean Mark Henry was NEVER any good, he has never got over, his most famous moment was fathering a rubber hand with Mae Young.

    Does anyone actually rate him?

    4 years ago when you stopped watching, the roster was probably better. Since 2007 WWE have lost Shawn Michaels, Batista, Ric Flair, Chris Benoit, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Edge, Jericho, Booker T, RVD, Umaga, Ken Anderson, and Undertaker and Triple H rarely wrestle anymore.

    They are trying to make new stars the last 18 months with The Miz, Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, Wade Barrett and Sheamus, but compare these names to the ones in the above paragraph and they aren't at the same level yet.

    Thus Mark Henry's status on the roster has risen merely by default, despite him not really being any better now than he was in 2007.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Thus Mark Henry's status on the roster has risen merely by default, despite him not really being any better now than he was in 2007.

    Wait hold on what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    rovert wrote: »
    Wait hold on what?

    He's closer to winning the WHC title now than he was in 2007, but largely in part due to the amount of main event talent that have left WWE since 2007 and not really been replaced.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Charisteas wrote: »
    He's closer to winning the WHC title now than he was in 2007, but largely in part due to the amount of main event talent that have left WWE since 2007 and not really been replaced.

    Erm he had main event title programs prior to 2007.

    Secondly he greatly improved as an act during his 2008-9 ECW title run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    rovert wrote: »
    Erm he had main event title programs prior to 2007.

    That's true, but I never felt like he was ever going to win the belt from the likes of Taker or Batista.

    Fast-Forward to 2011, and I think there's a real chance he is going to win the belt by the end of the year. Christian has had his run, Sheamus is face now, Bryan has said he wont cash in his MITB until Mania, really only leaves Henry and Barrett at the moment to take the belt from Orton.

    rovert wrote: »
    Secondly he greatly improved as an act during his 2008-9 ECW title run.

    Matter of opinion really. I do like Henry, but to me he's been the same guy for several years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    agreed Charisteas although i see Mark Henry as a jobber to the stars b/c of 15 years of failed pushes i've turned around and sure, why not, what have WWE got to lose by trying to make a new guy champ? It's the 2ndary belt in an age where titles mean nothing anyway. The dude has been booked real strong and i'm on board the gravy train. :)

    he's gotta do something about the quality of his matches though. I wonder what Randy can do with him. He's a massive step down from Christian!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭michael.etc...


    rovert wrote: »

    That's a real nice piece on the guy.

    The new issue of FSM also has an in-depth look at the guy :) , that I would obviously recommend ahead of his big moment tomorrow night.

    He looked like an absolute beast on this week's Smackdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    Yeah they put him over really well this week. The whole segment was great, emphasising Henry's frustration at never winning "the big one". If he doesn't win tomorrow he'll surely get the belt next month or at Survivor Series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,490 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    Charisteas wrote: »
    4 years ago when you stopped watching, the roster was probably better. Since 2007 WWE have lost Shawn Michaels, Batista, Ric Flair, Chris Benoit, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Edge, Jericho, Booker T, RVD, Umaga, Ken Anderson, and Undertaker and Triple H rarely wrestle anymore.

    They are trying to make new stars the last 18 months with The Miz, Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, Wade Barrett and Sheamus, but compare these names to the ones in the above paragraph and they aren't at the same level yet.

    Some of the new talent coming through is very good in my opinion. I like The Mizz, Punk, R thruth (now used to hate him), Rhods, Ted DB....and like "Air Boom" about time there was a proper tag team instead of "the team of X and Y" At night of champions, i though the worst 2 matches were the WWE and Heavyweight championship fight. Im sick of cena, dont mine ABD, not gone on randy or mark henery. The Womens match was very good too. The whole WWE roster has become very young, the oldest wrestlers are Taker (gone after mania when he gets 20-0) HHH, Mark Henery, Kane and Big show.
    Charisteas wrote: »
    Thus Mark Henry's status on the roster has risen merely by default, despite him not really being any better now than he was in 2007.

    I wouldnt say its be default, they wanted to give him a push.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    I wouldnt say its be default, they wanted to give him a push.

    I did read in the last week or so that Henry was contemplating retiring earlier this year (or maybe late last year) and they persuaded him to stay with the promise of a WHC title run.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Numbers dont lie

    Smackdown on Friday drew a surprising 2.3 rating, an all-time high for Syfy. It's the second-highest rated show in Syfy history, actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Lowest Smackdown attendance in months results in highest ratings?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Lowest Smackdown attendance in months results in highest ratings?

    I bet the Rhodes/Orton thing drew in some interest. Never seen this weeks show myself hope sky repeat it again. I think Regal just said Tinker on Nxt, he said it in such a mannerly way too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Lowest Smackdown attendance in months results in highest ratings?

    It is like it was taped just two days after the title win or something. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Henry = $$$$$.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Imagine the spike in ratings when Randy Orton regains the title:eek::pac:


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