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leaving cert- Almost 50 students have results withheld for cheating

  • 19-08-2011 01:19PM
    #1
    7sr2z3fely84g5
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    http://www.independent.ie/education/latest-news/almost-50-students-have-results-withheld-for-cheating-2852834.html
    NEARLY 50 Leaving Cert students were caught cheating in their exams, meaning their results have been withheld.
    The State Examinations Commission (SEC) did not provide a breakdown of exactly how the students involved were caught.
    It said it was not issuing results for 48 individual exam papers and was delaying the release of 30 more, pending investigations.
    Students were caught cheating in a range of subjects, including Irish, English, maths, history, geography, art, biology, design and communication graphics. There were also instances of cheating in modules for the Leaving Certificate Vocational Programme and the Leaving Certificate Applied.
    Instances of cheating often come to light when an examiner notices similar work from more than one candidate from the same exam centre. Some students have also been known to leave their cheat notes inside their exam paper.
    Cheating is also discovered by exam superintendents, for example, when a student attempts to smuggle notes or a mobile phone into the exam.
    In most cases cheaters have their result for that exam withheld.
    However, those who commit more serious breaches of exam regulations, for example, copying in more than one subject, can have all of their results withheld and they can be barred from repeating.
    In cases of suspected cheating, the student and school are contacted by the SEC and the student is given the opportunity to offer a response to the evidence presented. The student can also appeal a decision to withhold their result.

    Did anyone post on boards that they cheated like this thread :pac: -
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315462


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  • #2
    chin_grin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    HAHA!


  • #3
    Liber8or
    Closed Accounts Posts: 662 ✭✭✭Liber8or


    Some students have also been known to leave their cheat notes inside their exam paper.

    Hahahahahahahahaha! :D


  • #4
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    There were also instances of cheating in modules for the Leaving Certificate Vocational Programme and the Leaving Certificate Applied.

    How bloody stupid must you be to have to cheat in an LCA exam?


  • #5
    Steodonn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Steodonn


    Some students have also been known to leave their cheat notes inside their exam paper.

    They deserve to fail


  • #6
    FatherLen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    I am so happy they got caught!


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  • #7
    Samich
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Just on the topic of salman85

    Here he is on a bodybuilding site a year later boasting about it again.

    http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2009/11/07/21708351/profilepic/1kC3XQ7wK0ZVhBHElTmgBht1WO4E8785p.jpeg

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php/t-120631021.html


  • #8
    Dravokivich
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    Instances of cheating often come to light when an examiner notices similar work from more than one candidate from the same exam centre.

    But they'd all have the same teachers re-gurgitating the same set of notes...

    :confused:


  • #9
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,498 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    phasers wrote: »
    How bloody stupid must you be to have to cheat in an LCA exam?

    Where did they say it was in an exam? Far more likely to be in one of the KAs or tasks.

    Good enough for any loser that copies or uses someone else's work.


  • #10
    newballsplease
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    But they'd all have the same teachers re-gurgitating the same set of notes...

    :confused:

    ah come one...you'd know when 2 students have a paragraph word for word the exact same!


  • #11
    cocoshovel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    I can assure you that a lot more got away with it. Our examiner was half asleep most of the time. People could whisper away no problem and check phones without a bother. I didn't cheat of course because I'm a good boy :)

    If I did cheat then I would have got more then 230 points haha.


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  • #12
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    I'd be too afraid to get caught. Fair enough a class test or something but not the real thing.


  • #13
    nicowa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nicowa


    newballsplease wrote: »
    ah come one...you'd know when 2 students have a paragraph word for word the exact same!

    I was in a private leaving cert school and in geography my teacher had us learn the notes word for word. I remembered it word for word. And about 30-50% of the class would have had it practically word for word.


  • #14
    hidinginthebush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Samich wrote: »
    Just on the topic of salman85

    Here he is on a bodybuilding site a year later boasting about it again.

    http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/img/user_images/growable/2009/11/07/21708351/profilepic/1kC3XQ7wK0ZVhBHElTmgBht1WO4E8785p.jpeg

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/archive/index.php/t-120631021.html

    Had a read of the bodybuildinf forum thread, hilarious! It's funny how some of the best laughs on the internet actually originate from there.


  • #15
    CardBordWindow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    When I was doing my Geography exam a few years ago, a lad in my class got caught cheating......after drawing a map of France on the BACK OF HIS HAND!!! :D


  • #16
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    What a dope haha


  • #17
    Alter-Ego
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    cocoshovel wrote: »
    I can assure you that a lot more got away with it. Our examiner was half asleep most of the time. People could whisper away no problem and check phones without a bother. I didn't cheat of course because I'm a good boy :)

    If I did cheat then I would have got more then 230 points haha.
    You're ****!

    I got 235 :pac:


  • #18
    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,030 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    I have yet to do a job that was closed book. I don't see why our exams should be.


  • #19
    phill106
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,838 ✭✭✭phill106


    CardBordWindow wrote: »
    When I was doing my Geography exam a few years ago, a lad in my class got caught cheating......after drawing a map of France on the BACK OF HIS HAND!!! :D

    Did he have to surrender his paper?


  • #20
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    I have yet to do a job that was closed book. I don't see why our exams should be.

    Because then it'd be just like homework.


  • #21
    cocoshovel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    You're ****!

    I got 235 :pac:

    Nothing wrong with that! I got 3 A's, 2 B's and a C. I think its a bit unfair how little I got for them just because of ordinary level.


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  • #22
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    CardBordWindow wrote: »
    When I was doing my Geography exam a few years ago, a lad in my class got caught cheating......after drawing a map of France on the BACK OF HIS HAND!!! :D
    I cheated like a boss in my geo exam, I had that maths set with the map of Ireland on the lid! (was handy for drawing the west)


  • #23
    hidinginthebush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,675 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    Sitec wrote: »
    Wheres the original the fool put up on boards?

    He links these two on the bodybuilding forum:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315462
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055316768&highlight=salman85


  • #24
    castie
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    Dravokivich wrote: »
    Because then it'd be just like homework.

    Lots of College exams are open book.
    One of my Taught MSc exams was open book.

    You didnt get any extra time just the book.
    Best of luck going through it and answering everything within the time.
    Barely could use it at all.


  • #25
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Actually, a lad in my town did his Leaving Cert this year and is having his results withheld on suspicion of cheating in the LCVP portfolio. However, what actually happened apparently was that he gave his portfolio to his friend so that he could see the layout of the thing, and apparently his friend just ended up copying it word for word and now the both of them are in trouble. It's a real shame for the lad, as he's a smart kid and probably got a very good leaving cert.


  • #26
    CardBordWindow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭CardBordWindow


    phill106 wrote: »
    Did he have to surrender his paper?
    I think he did. Can't fully remember. But he got his Geography results withheld anyway. Haven't seen the chap since to ask what happened.


  • #27
    starlit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Leonard Enough Coat wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/education/latest-news/almost-50-students-have-results-withheld-for-cheating-2852834.html


    Did anyone post on boards that they cheated like this thread :pac: -
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055315462

    Why on earth would they bring in cheat notes into an exam? you'd wonder how they managed it without being caught!? Have they any morals, self respect or conscience!? Shame on them! Other students worked very hard and do the exam fairly. It's not very fair of others to cheat. Its their own fault for not studying! To be honest the leaving cert might seem hard to them but in all fairness its not as hard as people make it out to be. College isn't easy but not hard like but varies, can be harder than the leaving but sometimes the leaving is harder in terms of exams but materials it varies I suppose on how good or bad you are at a subject in the LC while with college you do a course you like or at least want to do and interested in and do well and enjoy it.


  • #28
    locked_out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭locked_out


    doovdela wrote: »
    Have they any morals, self respect or conscience!? Shame on them! Other students worked very hard and do the exam fairly

    Nothing in life is really fair. Is it fair that students from disadvantaged backgrounds can't afford grinds and the like? I don't condone cheating, but I would not rat out those that felt the need to do so. Their problem, not mine. If you think cheating is bad at that level, college is a bigger problem altogether.

    The amount of cheating and bull****ting I witnessed at that level made me lose faith in the third level system. Organised education like Religion, can be a farce. Making education into a ****ing contest will of course bring cheating. Cheating will only increase from here on out, because some of the gob****es in the SEC don't have a clue.

    Remove the cattle herding mentality of the leaving as a means to a good future, and I am sure the ruthlessness would go down. Smaller communities tend to look out for each other and respect rules in a fair manner, not 50,000+ "candidates" from all walks of life.


  • #29
    Niles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Niles


    newballsplease wrote: »
    ah come one...you'd know when 2 students have a paragraph word for word the exact same!

    Maybe not in the case of English but in the case of Irish I'd say it could quite legit. We were given generic paragraphs on poems, etc, which could conceivably have been regurgitated word for word, many of us probably weren't even aware of what exactly we were writing!


  • #30
    locked_out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭locked_out


    Niles wrote: »
    Maybe not in the case of English but in the case of Irish I'd say it could quite legit. We were given generic paragraphs on poems, etc, which could conceivably have been regurgitated word for word, many of us probably weren't even aware of what exactly we were writing!

    Plagiarism + Copyright Infringement right here. You should have had your Irish results withheld.


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  • #31
    7sr2z3fely84g5
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    doovdela wrote: »
    Why on earth would they bring in cheat notes into an exam? you'd wonder how they managed it without being caught!?
    from joe-
    http://www.joe.ie/joe-life/life-features/cheating-their-way-to-failure-0015109-1
    However, the more interesting way of finding a cheater is by looking in their exam paper to see if they left any cheat sheets in it. Because apparently, it happens more than you’d care to believe.


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