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Randy Couture's awesome bar routine! Any thoughts?

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  • #62
    slicus ricus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭slicus ricus


    Hanley wrote: »
    Can we just clarify what exactly is being discussed here?

    It started out as 3 rounds with 40lb, it moved to multiple rounds with 70lb and now it's 5 rounds with 40lb?

    I'm confused - Randy Couture clearly says in the video that he puts 25lb plates (11.5kgs approx) on each side of the bar & the bar in the clip looks like an Olympic bar which is 44.1lbs (20kgs). That in total is 94.1lbs or 43kgs (approx).

    Why did the OP mention 40lbs as the total weight of the bar to be lifted to replicate the Couture circuit? To measure if the Couture circuit is difficult or not, should 43kgs not be the target? And how many rounds does Couture do- is it 3 or 5?

    Either way, I would imagine that this daily circuit is a miniscule proportion of all of Couture's conditioning training. Clearly, the hours of kickboxing, BJJ, and wrestling training the guy does would make that circuit look like a piece of p!ss!


  • #63
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    slicus ricus wrote: »
    I'm confused - Randy Couture clearly says in the video that he puts 25lb plates (11.5kgs approx) on each side of the bar & the bar in the clip looks like an Olympic bar which is 44.1lbs (20kgs). That in total is 94.1lbs or 43kgs (approx).

    Why did the OP mention 40lbs as the total weight of the bar to be lifted to replicate the Couture circuit? To measure if the Couture circuit is difficult or not, should 43kgs not be the target? And how many rounds does Couture do- is it 3 or 5?

    Well my original contention was that 40lb x3 rounds is a piece of p!ss, cos that's what the OP said was an amazing workout. And I stand by it.

    95lb x5 rounds is obviously tougher... total tonnage moves from 6,720lb to 26,600lb, a 295% increase in total workload.

    95lb x5 rounds is doable, but it'd be pretty tough.
    Either way, I would imagine that this daily circuit is a miniscule proportion of all of Couture's conditioning training. Clearly, the hours of kickboxing, BJJ, and wrestling training the guy does would make that circuit look like a piece of p!ss!

    Bingo.


  • #64
    kevpants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,863 ✭✭✭kevpants


    So after 63 replies is the concensus of the thread that barbell complexes get harder the more weight you add?

    Another mystery solved by the Fitness forum!


  • #65
    AntiVirus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭AntiVirus


    Be like Nutella wrote: »
    32 palms facing you pull ups is my record.

    Thats pretty good! I'm stuck at 23


  • #66
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    I reckon gymfreak should do it and video it.
    And post the results in this thread.
    Gymfreak out imo
    Be like Nutella wrote: »
    32 palms facing you pull ups is my record. One Rep at 110kg is my heaviest bench, or 20 reps of 75kg and 90 continuous pushups....it's not great but it's not crap....point is I'm moderately fit and I reckon Randy's bar complex is a challenge.
    That's what I find baffling, you numers above are pretty good, better than mine. But I can't fathom how you are struggling with a 18kg complex.

    You must have serious recovery issues
    slicus ricus wrote: »
    Either way, I would imagine that this daily circuit is a miniscule proportion of all of Couture's conditioning training. Clearly, the hours of kickboxing, BJJ, and wrestling training the guy does would make that circuit look like a piece of p!ss!
    I'd be surprised if he does (or did it rather) very often at all.
    I'd expect a sick amount of wrestling, boxing and conditioning. Dunno if he did much BJJ, don't think so. This is just something that ended up on youtube.


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  • #67
    King of Kings
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Be like Nutella wrote: »



    wo wo wo fck that...just saw this there...hahahaha now that is some funny ass sht right there.....no way in fckin jaysus hell can you or anyone even close to this forum do 20 sets of Randy's bar routine with the 1 min rests...not in a feckin month of complete bullsht sundays... Donkey Balls is all I can say to that!!!

    Takes Randy 2 min 30 secs to complete 1 round plus 1 minute rest by 20 = equivalent to Randy continuing for 69 minutes without slowing doing 1280 Reps of a 40/50 pound bar... aww lordy

    I may indeed be considerably less fit and strong than your regal self but I have some semblance of a grasp on reality... a grasp which I'm sorry to say you wont be improving lifting a barbell 1280 times on camera and posting here on this friendly helpful forum of fitness gods.

    nobody defended me - I'm sad :(

    i'm not too sure how to answer your post so STFU.

    you can have you opinions but to call donkeyballs is bang out of order.

    I have done 20 sets at 25lb plates each side with 1 min rest.
    I did nothing else that day except for a quick warm up and it was hard but I did it.
    Do you think I walked in and did 20 sets on a random day? No I worked up to that.
    was it easy - **** no I was gasping for breath.

    You should know that as part of my MA training I knock out quite a few endurance exercise for example I'd regularly do 1000 BW squats in 1 set.

    TBH endurance exercises , as said I do a lot of BW ones, are more mental strength than anything. once you break that pain barrier which kicks in quite early you can go a lot longer than you belief at the start.

    Look I think you found a good exercise online and hearalded the new messiah - it didn't work and you're upset.
    I'm sorry for your loss but lay off throwing **** aorund.


  • #68
    SanoVitae
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭SanoVitae


    Mellor wrote: »
    Dunno if he did much BJJ, don't think so. This is just something that ended up on youtube.

    Much like any top MMA fighter, he did plenty of BJJ. After getting submitted a few times early in his career, he got serious about adding BJJ to his skillset. After that he was never submitted ever again, not even when he faced BJJ master Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza in a submission wrestling match (they fought to a draw).

    He also had a few submission wins (Toney, Coleman and Van Arsdale), but it was mainly defensive BJJ which he developed to help him avoid trouble when he was had opponents on their back and was applying his trademark GnP.


  • #69
    SanoVitae
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭SanoVitae


    King of Kings wrote: »
    I'd regularly do 1000 BW squats in 1 set.

    :eek:

    That would take me a whole day! :o


  • #70
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    SanoVitae wrote: »
    Much like any top MMA fighter, he did plenty of BJJ. After getting submitted a few times early in his career, he got serious about adding BJJ to his skillset. After that he was never submitted ever again, not even when he faced BJJ master Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza in a submission wrestling match (they fought to a draw).

    He also had a few submission wins (Toney, Coleman and Van Arsdale), but it was mainly defensive BJJ which he developed to help him avoid trouble when he was had opponents on their back and was applying his trademark GnP.
    Sorry, i wasn't saying he does none. Obviously all top fighters train some BJJ defense at least. And I'm aware of his sub wins, you forgot his first UFC bout he won by RNC, but i was getting at the fact that his style is more submission wrestling than BJJ. Maybe I'm being too specific by separating the two

    anyway, just goin to the gym. Gonna try this complex


  • #71
    Barry.Oglesby
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭Barry.Oglesby


    he did a lot of BJJ, he trained with my coach.


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  • #72
    SanoVitae
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭SanoVitae


    Mellor wrote: »
    i was getting at the fact that his style is more submission wrestling than BJJ. Maybe I'm being too specific by separating the two

    Most MMA fighters tend to put an equal amount of hours into the most popular styles (e.g. boxing, wrestling, Muay Thai, BJJ) and then use elements from each to develop their style.

    Chuck Liddell was a great wrestler (and apparently more than decent at BJJ) but we rarely saw it because he only tended to use wrestling to keep fights standing, playing to his main strength - the sprawl and brawl he perfected. When he was taken down, he had a great ability to get the fight back on its feet, so you rarely saw him having to use BJJ, even defensively.

    Back on topic, Frank Shamrock is always worth checking out. He was way ahead of everyone else in MMA when it came to conditioning - his legendary win over Tito Ortiz really raised the bar when it came to conditioning.

    Back then, there were loads of fighters who made Roy Nelson look slim! :D


  • #73
    Mellor
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    Barry.Oglesby wrote: »
    he did a lot of BJJ, he trained with my coach.

    Is that Drysdale?
    Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the info. I knew he was blackbelt in some submission wrestling style, for some reason I thought that it was more greco-roman based and not BJJ. Obviously I was wrong there.


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